*Live* Parra v Penrith Game Day thread, March 11, 2018

[84 Baby]

It's his way of shoehorning a made up stat and absolving our bench of their poor performance, putting it all down to the possession rate changing by magic

I actually like the stat, but for either a single player or a single game it's next to useless. If you kept coming up with the same numbers consistently using the same rotations then it may highlight certain things

 

[Gronk]

 

[84 Baby]

We did!! But he choose the storm over us and the dragons.

Well then we should have offered him more money!

 

[Bazal]

Well then we should have offered him more money!

Sam Kasiano has no need for money.

We should have offered him more KFC vouchers. Deadset what is the obsession on this forum with fat f**k forwards???

 

[hindy111]

Watch teams work out how to roll our little pack. Griffin benched his impact forwards as he didnt wamt to waste them on our hard workers. Once tbey come pff he brought them on and they ripped pur guys apart.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Tiny pack with nothing to fear off bench.

Alvaro and Mannah work hard and good defenders. Neither offload or pass before line. Manu and Brown are also small while Tepai doesnt run hard and bowl guys over or split the line like a Frizzel or Papali can.

It feels like some people on here dont understand other teams have forwards who not only work hard and defend well but can offload and bust the line plus have some ball skills.

Manu runs more like a centre imo. Great player but the balance in our pack is out.

Our forwards may of worked hard but they didnt take the emrgy out of there guys. Pou can throw his dumb stats around about Mannah and co but like I keep saying you cant measure the amount of energy that is sapped during a game from guys who bash you hard and bruise you all game.

No panthers forwards made more metres than what Mannah, Alvaro and Brown made (Moeroa is almost there to)

 

[84 Baby]

Watch teams work out how to roll our little pack. Griffin benched his impact forwards as he didnt wamt to waste them on our hard workers. Once tbey come pff he brought them on and they ripped pur guys apart.

So you're saying our pack forced Penriff into altering their game plan?

 

[Bazal]

Watch teams work out how to roll our little pack. Griffin benched his impact forwards as he didnt wamt to waste them on our hard workers. Once tbey come pff he brought them on and they ripped pur guys apart.

Our "pack" wasn't the problem you blithering idiot.

Alvaro 122m
Mannah 137m
Moeroa 106m
Brown 141m

vs

RCG 108m
McKendry 102m

The problem was the bench players played like shit, which let the Panthers bench players get them back in the game. Add that every Panthers backline player made over 100m, which really helped their forwards get back in the game when our starters were off, while we only got that out of Hayne and Auva'a.

 

[84 Baby]

Sam Kasiano has no need for money.

We should have offered him more KFC vouchers. Deadset what is the obsession on this forum with fat f**k forwards???

Did people even notice how gassed our forwards got yesterday? How the f**k do think Kasiano would of gone?

 

[hineyrulz]

I love it when people think that they have all the answers after one f**ken round of football.

Well I do, I’m just not telling anybody.

 

[Glenneel]

Absolutely nothing to do with size. Kikau was running at Moses, should we get a bigger halfback to contain back rowers?

Matagi, Scott and Evans are just weaker defenders than the players they came on for. Evans is our biggest player FYI.

The reason they have weight divisions in boxing is because the bigger man generally hits harder than the smaller man,. And the bigger man uses less energy generating the same power over the smaller man. Makes sense.

Our pack with 1 or 2 110kg players against their 3 or 4 115kg plus players just hit harder wearing our forwards down in the heat. We were buggered after 30 mins and they just didn't seem to be bothered at all. It can't be they are fitter than our players but they didn't have to work so hard to contain our pack. Once they got a even share of possession they just powered away.

If Moses is getting dominated do something about it, isn't that the coaches job? Bring a good defender across to his side to help in D.

It still doesn't take away that their bigger pack dominated our pack so Bazal take off those rose coloured glasses that BA gave you.

 

[Bazal]

The reason they have weight divisions in boxing is because the bigger man generally hits harder than the smaller man,. And the bigger man uses less energy generating the same power over the smaller man. Makes sense.

Our pack with 1 or 2 110kg players against their 3 or 4 115kg plus players just hit harder wearing our forwards down in the heat. We were buggered after 30 mins and they just didn't seem to be bothered at all. It can't be they are fitter than our players but they didn't have to work so hard to contain our pack. Once they got a even share of possession they just powered away.

If Moses is getting dominated do something about it, isn't that the coaches job? Bring a good defender across to his side to help in D.

It still doesn't take away that their bigger pack dominated our pack so Bazal take off those rose coloured glasses that BA gave you.

No, their pack did not dominate ours. Their bench dominated our bench. Simple.

You've been spouting the same shit for five years

 

[84 Baby]

The reason they have weight divisions in boxing is because the bigger man generally hits harder than the smaller man,. And the bigger man uses less energy generating the same power over the smaller man. Makes sense.

Our pack with 1 or 2 110kg players against their 3 or 4 115kg plus players just hit harder wearing our forwards down in the heat. We were buggered after 30 mins and they just didn't seem to be bothered at all. It can't be they are fitter than our players but they didn't have to work so hard to contain our pack. Once they got a even share of possession they just powered away.

If Moses is getting dominated do something about it, isn't that the coaches job? Bring a good defender across to his side to help in D.

It still doesn't take away that their bigger pack dominated our pack so Bazal take off those rose coloured glasses that BA gave you.

It's one f**king game FFS! You reckon BA isn't going to bother reviewing it again, ignoring things that might need changing? Better pack away those sharp objects before he names the exact same 17 for next week's game

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sorry Pou, but what's tackles per run? They're either running or tackling aren't they?

It's to show how much ball we had while the two groups were on the field - how much time they spent tackling vs running.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I agree it’s a poor measure of a player’s contribution and worth to a team. Pou needs to find a better KPI.

It's nothing to do with contribution (that would be tackles and runs per minute) and everything to do with the possession flow while they were on the field.

 

[Bazal]

It's nothing to do with contribution (that would be tackles and runs per minute) and everything to do with the possession flow while they were on the field.

What did you just say in the rumours thread....? Something about merkins posting stats and niot taking into account what the stats miss, IIRC...lol

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Reckon Kenny would of done a better job.

Hopefully he gets the chance on Sunday.

Edwards would've at least given Kikau something to think about.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Of the 9 forwards each side had (5 starting / 4 bench), panthers on average wasn't that much bigger then us:

Panthers 108.78 kg / 189 cm
Eels 107.22 kg / 187.78

Panthers didn't really have a massive forward size advantage!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's his way of shoehorning a made up stat and absolving our bench of their poor performance, putting it all down to the possession rate changing by magic

It didn't change by magic, it changed by actions occurring on the field. The shit Evans pass to Matagi was one that comes to mind as was the Moses-Hoffman short side play that ended up with Hoffman pushed into touch on our 40 metre line.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Or maybe our starting pack had more ball you moron.

And conversely so did their bench pack.