Panthers cap crisis.

[BunniesMan]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...or-find-new-club/story-e6frexnr-1226518793102

The future of representative stars Michael Jennings, Tim Grant, Lachlan Coote and Sam McKendry is under fresh scrutiny after they were called to a meeting with Penrith's general manager Phil Gould on October 30 - just two days before the club's first day of pre-season training.
All four players were asked via text message from Gould to attend the meeting.
But instead of a pre-season pep-talk, The Sunday Telegraph has learned that Gould told the club's four biggest names that if they weren't prepared to remove a clause in their contract, which relates to each player earning a percentage of any increase in the NRL's $5 million salary cap, then one of the them may have to leave.

More than two weeks after the meeting, all four players are refusing to have the clause removed from their contract and it threatens to spark a stand-off between the players and Gould.
The bombshell was delivered to the players as a result of the huge pressure on Penrith's salary cap, which is underpinned by the size of the salaries and length of the deals they signed under the previous management.

Wow. If true (considering the source, that's a pretty big 'if') this is massive. And it really does suggest contracts mean nothing these days. How do you go to your biggest names in the middle of their contracts and be like "hey guys, can you take less money please? Thanks."

And another thing, surely Gus knew about their contracts when he was signing players left, right and centre this year. If he didn't have the room, maybe he shouldn't have been signing established first graders from other clubs.

And why would you risk losing someone like Tim Grant. This bloke will captain NSW one day, he is a champion in the making and should be Penrith for life. Imagine if they lost him. Panthers fans would be wanting Gus's blood.


Gus has been running the show now for 2 years. Surely there comes a time when you can't keep blaming previous management for your stuff ups.

 

[ethan tremblay]

i wanna know how they can do it? cause if parramatta can't give izzy less money then he's worth then there is no way this could happen

 

[Murf]

If Grant ends up leaving Penrith, there will be a line of clubs around the corner ready to pick him up.

 

[innsaneink]

Whatever happened to last hired, first fired?

 

[Spot On]

It must hurt looking at the books and seeing 600K+ for Jennings for the next three years.

As someone above has stated - how are Parra going to abide by the cap and give Folau what he will want?

The ARLC needs to address this immediately.

 

[butchmcdick]

Tim Grant is a cheap shot grub who seems intent on proving he is a hard merkin instead of taking the hard hit ups into opposition forwards.

That said if my boss tried to pull this shit on me I would tell him to get f**ked too

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Its in black and white Gus. Its legally binding. Only way out is by mutual consent.

My brother in law played three years in pennies Flegg / NYC with these 4 guys. Jenko is a piss head, but the other three are great blokes, no way they would f**k up enough to warrant a dismissal, which is Gould's only other way out.

Plus, what Ink said. Last in, first out.

 

[gronkathon]

Rumours dispelled at Wests Tigers so Slopshields boys turn their focus to another favourite target Phillip Ronal Gould.

Internal club business for Penrith which I sympathise with after Captain Backload Steve Noyce screwed us and left but it is their issue to sort out and the Tele likely has less then half the facts anyway

 

[Diesel]

Lol the two bottom teams of 2012 having salary cap issues.

 

[muzby]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...or-find-new-club/story-e6frexnr-1226518793102
Wow. If true (considering the source, that's a pretty big 'if') this is massive. And it really does suggest contracts mean nothing these days. How do you go to your biggest names in the middle of their contracts and be like "hey guys, can you take less money please? Thanks."

And another thing, surely Gus knew about their contracts when he was signing players left, right and centre this year. If he didn't have the room, maybe he shouldn't have been signing established first graders from other clubs.

And why would you risk losing someone like Tim Grant. This bloke will captain NSW one day, he is a champion in the making and should be Penrith for life. Imagine if they lost him. Panthers fans would be wanting Gus's blood.


Gus has been running the show now for 2 years. Surely there comes a time when you can't keep blaming previous management for your stuff ups.

stop trying to shine the spotlight off what is clearly the bigger story coming out of today - which city will souffs be re-located to after rusty sells his licence to either back to the NRL or one of the expansion teams...

 

[Iafeta]

Maybe Parra shouldn't have made an offer to Folau if they didn't have the room. Same as Penrith shouldn't have been signing the likes of Whare and Manu and Segayaro if they had so little room.

The ARLC needs to address this by not letting it happen. With the Eels, if they can't afford Folau another club will. With the Panthers, clubs will be falling over themselves to get to Grant.

Just trying to work out how their cap situation got so bad. Surely they're not still paying for any of Lewis' contract, given it was Lewis who asked to leave. They have got a lengthy list of recruits this year - beyond that list there's also Lewis Brown, Jeremy Latimore, and a few good young guys like Pangai, O'Donnell and Cook. They've lost Lewis and Gordon, I'm surprised they're in this position.

 

[Usain Bolt]

They should make all salaries public like they do with US sports

 

[Bazal]

Eric Grothe and Luke Burt weren't allowed to take less money to keep Kingston at Parra despite offering themselves....surely Penrith can't do this legally

 

[gronkathon]

WTF happened to the rest of the topic?

 

[Special K]

It is sad to see our feeder club struggling

 

[Eels Dude]

WTF happened to the rest of the topic?

Yeah odd... I didn't see anything that breached the rules worthy of deleting...

 

[El Diablo]

WTF happened to the rest of the topic?

moved here for hijacking his own topic with drivel http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=8781132#post8781132

 

[sretsoor]

So if it's illegal how come the Dogs were able to change the contracts in 2002 to keep the same team despite breaching the cap, going into 2003? When did it change?

 

[El Diablo]

So if it's illegal how come the Dogs were able to change the contracts in 2002 to keep the same team despite breaching the cap, going into 2003? When did it change?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...p-kevin-kingston/story-e6freye0-1225785318873

 

[Eels Dude]

So if it's illegal how come the Dogs were able to change the contracts in 2002 to keep the same team despite breaching the cap, going into 2003? When did it change?

Pretty much after said incident...