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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation

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eozsmiles

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Yes I f**king do expect these fools to release something as does everyone else.

The cowboys do give a shit they were named in this disgrace otherwise they would not have announced they were considering legal action.

The Cowboys haven't been publicly named - they named themselves. Are they going to sue themselves for defamation? The report isn't public so they can't sue on what they have told the media or what they speculate is in the report or what they assume the public thinks.

Crime investigations shouldn't care what channel 9 or News Ltd or footy fans think. I'd prefer a few more people took the Annesley view. To paraphrase him, he thinks the majority of the game is fine but the other parts scare the s**t out of him. He has seen more info than me so I'm happy to take a deep breath and side with him. Let the cops sort it out.
 

Clarke

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The Cowboys haven't been publicly named - they named themselves. Are they going to sue themselves for defamation? The report isn't public so they can't sue on what they have told the media or what they speculate is in the report or what they assume the public thinks.

Crime investigations shouldn't care what channel 9 or News Ltd or footy fans think. I'd prefer a few more people took the Annesley view. To paraphrase him, he thinks the majority of the game is fine but the other parts scare the s**t out of him. He has seen more info than me so I'm happy to take a deep breath and side with him. Let the cops sort it out.

The lawyers at the Cowboys & Manly looking into the case and the QC who recently suggested there was a case would also know more than you about the law, the affect this investigation has had on all of sport and the individual clubs that where named publically by the process of elimination by the media after the investigation was made public.

So until they say they haven't got a case, lets wait and see what happens. There word is far greater than some politicians, regardless of who the politician is.
 

Didgi

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Yes I f**king do expect these fools to release something as does everyone else.

The cowboys do give a shit they were named in this disgrace otherwise they would not have announced they were considering legal action.

'Everyone else'? Anyone with half a clue as to what such investigations entail doesn't expect them to release anything more than they are legally able to. I don't pretend to know what they do and don't know, but I expect given they couldn't even say which clubs were mentioned in the report that they've said as much as they could - that there is an investigation and it covers Australian sport.

Yes, they do... As I said.
 

Spot On

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'Everyone else'? Anyone with half a clue as to what such investigations entail doesn't .........

....make up the number of people they have identified as needing to be interviewed as the ASADA boss has publicly done.
 
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Spot On

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The Cowboys haven't been publicly named - they named themselves. Are they going to sue themselves for defamation? The report isn't public so they can't sue on what they have told the media or what they speculate is in the report or what they assume the public thinks.

Crime investigations shouldn't care what channel 9 or News Ltd or footy fans think. I'd prefer a few more people took the Annesley view. To paraphrase him, he thinks the majority of the game is fine but the other parts scare the s**t out of him. He has seen more info than me so I'm happy to take a deep breath and side with him. Let the cops sort it out.

And why did the Cowboys come out and announce that they were being investigated?

This crime investigation certainly wouldn't tread the same path again as this one has - starting with the press conference and ridiculous statements made that day.
 

Canard

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Bolt makes Fox news look reasonable.

It's a testament to how bad Gillard is performing that a raving lunatic is considered a credible alternative.

The ALP know they are going to lose, this isn't a distraction in any way. I can't see how coming out swinging is going to help League.

It's as if " Yes we may have issues, but it's wrong to affect out ability to get sponsors!"
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/doping-points-to-sports-main-game-20130217-2el8s.html

Doping points to sport's main game

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February 18, 2013

Roy Masters
Rugby League Columnist

The single biggest problem facing Australian sport is match-fixing, according to the head of the Australian Crime Commission, John Lawler, who argues this has been largely ignored in the firestorm of publicity that followed his recently released report.

Lawler said the zealotry of the media in seeking to identify codes, clubs and players guilty of the use of performance-enhancing and illicit drugs was understandable but has had two unfortunate consequences: it has distracted attention away from the end problem - criminality and match-fixing - and has created divisions at a time the ACC seeks unity in confronting the problem.

''Everyone seems focused on asking when can we hear the cell door clanging,'' he says, in reference to naming and shaming the guilty. ''But the important thing is to make codes, clubs and players aware criminals want to enter their sports and use drugs as a path to match-fixing.''

While people might argue there is nothing new in the links between organised crime and sport, and draw attention to past prosecutions over match-fixing, Lawler said recent intelligence revealed a dramatic increase of links between athletes and criminals.

''What is new is the issue of performance- and image-enhancing drugs, with many cases happening in the last couple of months,'' he said.

''We have information that the Russian and Italian mafias are supplying performance- and image-enhancing drugs across Europe. Organised crime is at the epicentre of sport with ramifications for soccer.

''There are 300 to 400 officials caught up in that, and it is getting worse and worse.

''All these cases have come in the past couple of months. When you look at it globally, it is a significant problem. There are Singaporean criminal groups involved in betting schemes in the European environment.

''It's already been reported by the Victorian police of an A-League game drawing a betting pool of $HK40 million [$5 million]. The sounds of criminals who want to influence Australian matches is clanging like a cymbal.

''The supply of drugs to sportspeople by criminals is a very lucrative practice in its own right, but the real money is to be found in match-fixing.''

Lawler also made it clear the ACC report released in Canberra on February 7 was not, as many now believe, an atomic bomb set off to see what reptiles crawled out from the crevices.

''If anything, the report is conservative,'' he said. ''Over time, as more information emerges, people will look back on the public announcement of the results of the year-long investigation and rationalise why things are the way they are.''

While confidentiality provisions do not allow him to cite specific examples of the threat of match-fixing in Australia, he said there was increasing intelligence where the supply of drugs, gambling and corrupting games were linked.

''We've got players using peptides and amphetamines and other illicit drugs and supplying it to other players and being introduced to criminals,'' he said. ''The crims look to corrupt the player but the players and their associations and their sports are not equipped to understand.

''The criminals get their hooks in and get information, and this leads to match-fixing and other criminality.

''It has a multiplier effect. There are some big blinking red signs, and while the corruption may not be evident now, unless we do something, we have a major problem. The solution needs to come from within.''

Lawler said this was why it was disturbing for some of the media to report one code had a bigger drug problem than another.

''We are trying to get a united front but some of the media has been disappointing in creating divisions between codes,'' he said.

''In our briefings with the codes and players' associations, not one sport said they haven't got a problem. We want all the codes with us. Everybody's got a problem.''

Lawler said all sports and the Coalition of Major Professional and Participation Sports were briefed separately in Canberra at ACC headquarters on January 31.

The next day COMPPS advised all its members to attend a meeting in Melbourne on February 5 to discuss ''serious integrity issues''. The ACC press conference took place in Canberra two days later. He insisted no sports were given any information about other sports, nor had the ACC passed any on to the media.

''We've been careful not to mention codes, clubs and players. We won't do it, and in private briefings to sports we won't comment on other sports,'' he said.

''We briefed the sports on the classified information that related to their sports.

''They were given sufficient detail on their own circumstances.''

Lawler said published ACC statistics were a year behind but quoted alarming figures from the 2010-11 report. ''We have seen an explosion of peptide-related seizures and detection … peptides up 125 per cent, steroids up 225 per cent and 50 per cent of users are admitting they are using peptides.

''The latest figures confirm the trend is increasing.

''It is a market that is growing, emerging and profitable.

''There is a 100 per cent-plus mark-up on the products the criminals are selling.

''Criminals go to where the money stream is, and drugs - leading to match-fixing - is the business they want to be in.''

so it's all about something that might happen
 

whall15

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:lol: Labor fanboys at their deluded best.

A week old crusty dogturd looks better than Juliar atm.

That's probably true, my question is whether Tony Abbott is better than that week-old crusty dog-turd, and I don't think he is.
 

taipan

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They haven't done anything bad enough to make the Liberals a palatable option.

Ask the poor sods who have dramas with pink batts,.Ask some of the schools who have had buildings built that are underutilised or money wasted in doing so.
Why the expenditure of $30bn on a communications,when the take up rate is so small,when there are better options such as roads and hospitals.
Why a treasurer who was warned by an experienced finance expert prior,and was warned he would not get the billions from the mining tax,and ignored the advice.Now he is left with egg on face.
Throw in Slipper issue,Thompson,now billions swasted on boats arrivals,and they have done little harm.:crazy:

Let alone the carbon tax which has had stuff all effect on what the big abuser countries do,and yet my electricty bill jumps astronomically,despite lowere usage.

The Libs may not be palatable only time will tell ,but it would not be hard to do a friggin better job,than this mob of dipsticks,who were in reality unelected except by a couple of nth NSW turncoats.And Red Sonia knifing Rudd in the back.
This current mob is the worst rabble I have seen in politics ,ever since I became a voter.If this mob gets in again good luck.

I am a swinging voter,not bound by what mummy and daddy may have done in the past.If the Libs stuff up I will help turf them out,as i have done with Libs in the past and indeed Lab ,in my own very small way.

Any way I am more concerned ATM with the drugs's issue and the code I follow rugby league ,than whether big Red or Budgies gets elected.
 
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