Hi Knightmare. With Perverse, I was merely trying to show him up for the intolerant prick that he was. Next to WYD he's one of the most fanatical Athiests on the forum. I was half tempted to make a few posts tonight, only as you've rightly pointed out: Better things to do with my time, like trying to find a mobile for my 10 week old Daughter's cot on-line, rather than listen to WYD and GuT's latest clap trap about how we're all insane! To hell with them, let them gratify each other's ego. I kinda feel Sorry for Mr Spock as he'll be left there on his own now, and he's putting up a decent fight, but I'm just so over it now. Still, I might make the odd cameo apperance on the thread from time to time. Cheers, PJ.