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Matador BBQs One Day Cup 2016

AlwaysGreen

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Proposals for next year's tournament:

- Cricket Australia should do away with the CA XI side and replace it with an ACT franchise (would be good to see Canberra back in the state comp, like they were in the late '90s). CA XI have only won one game in their 2 seasons, and an ACT franchise would give Canberra (and the territory) the opportunity to develop their own players as well as increase the presence of cricket in the ACT.

- ALL games during the preliminary rounds at the teams' home venues, rather than North Sydney Oval/Hurstville Oval/Drummoyne Oval etc. monopolising the matches.

- If crowd attendances are to be increased, day/night matches to be only played on Friday and Saturday. The Sunday day/night match at North Sydney Oval last week didn't work, with the match finishing at 9:50pm and kids having to go to school the next day. A day fixture would've drawn a larger crowd.
They moved all the games to a few concentrated venues to save money, both for CA and nine. it won't change.
CA's spin on the length of the tournament was that it simulates what happens at the world cup although it's likely the real reason was to accommodate a longer big bash.
 

Bazal

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No, he's not. But there's also no one who's massively better. The two best are SOK and Lyon by some margin IMO, and both are really one dimensional. SOK probably has more natural variation, but he does turn it a bit less than Lyon. Neither have a great change up ball....Ashwin for example has his carom ball and a lot of variations of his off breaks, but both SOK and Lyon have an off break and an arm ball and that's pretty much it.
 

TheParraboy

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Australia's best ever off spinner doing his thing as per usual

lol

If he is Australia's best ever off spinner then Ricky Ponting is Australia best ever test captain

Did well this game, impressive. But has let us down many a time when conditions were suited for him

If not for politics or injury, SOK would have played more tests and performed better IMO
 

TIGER14

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No, he's not. But there's also no one who's massively better. The two best are SOK and Lyon by some margin IMO, and both are really one dimensional. SOK probably has more natural variation, but he does turn it a bit less than Lyon. Neither have a great change up ball....Ashwin for example has his carom ball and a lot of variations of his off breaks, but both SOK and Lyon have an off break and an arm ball and that's pretty much it.

Hey, Lyon's got the Jeff, also known as a pie.

 
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No, he's not. But there's also no one who's massively better. The two best are SOK and Lyon by some margin IMO, and both are really one dimensional. SOK probably has more natural variation, but he does turn it a bit less than Lyon. Neither have a great change up ball....Ashwin for example has his carom ball and a lot of variations of his off breaks, but both SOK and Lyon have an off break and an arm ball and that's pretty much it.
Yes he bowls the available options for a offie who doesn't chuck it
 

Bazal

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Yes he bowls the available options for a offie who doesn't chuck it

Mate, I'm a 2nd grade all rounder who bowls seam over spin and even I have one that goes the other way, surely a truly top level off spinner can sort something out ffs....Ashwin doesn't chuck it and he has loads of variations. Lyon is rigidly one dimensional, simple as that.
 

TheParraboy

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I remember when Lyon reached 17 tests (same as Haurie)

The stats were errily similar in almost all areas

Maybe Haurie could have been our best ever offie?
 

Bazal

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I remember when Lyon reached 17 tests (same as Haurie)

The stats were errily similar in almost all areas

Maybe Haurie could have been our best ever offie?

Tbh I could never understand why they dropped Krezja so early. 12 wickets in his first Test...granted he leaked a few more runs than you'd like but you can forgive that on debut, in India, against a cracking Indian side. He was still MOTM in a comfortable loss. Then they picked him at the WACA for some reason, he got pasted (who could possibly have predicted that!) and was consigned to obscurity. Deserved a bit of a chance IMO
 

simmo1

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Lyon bowled beautifully today, and while he's probably not in the top echelon of spinners Australia have produced, I reckon he's probably better than some second grade nuffy,
 

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