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RFL to cut funding to WRL Juniors in 2017

roughyedspud

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Its not the RFLs job anymore guys..

Theres the RLIF,RLEF and more importantly SportWales to get funding from..

That goes for scotland too
 

roughyedspud

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Just too add as well..our england students have had to set up a "GoFundMe" account to raise £110k to go to the world cup..

The RFL are a effing shambles at the min,i wouldn't trust them with £1 to go get a pint of milk these day...if i asked big nige to go he'd get 3 of his mates ,pay everyone 20p for going then not have enough left to buy the friggin milk lol
 
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bowes

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The RFL are losing even more Sport England money, possibly all of it. They've already given up on meaningful expansion of the amateur game in the midlands and south by scrapping Conference League South and forcing all clubs south of Sheffield below League 1 back into 3-4 month RU off season local competitions that will have very uneven games
 

roughyedspud

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All because they have failed to use the tv money correctly..

If they put all the tv deals,SL,CC & internationals,into one pot and split it fairly then the whole sport would benefit..

As ive said many times before they could have split it like this..

League 1 clubs - £250,000 per season
Championship clubs - £600,000 per season
Super league clubs - £1.825m per season,which is what they are getting under the new deal anyway! so they aren't missing out on anything.

And that leaves £6.2miliion per season,thats £30m over the 5 years of the deal, for the RFL in invest in the sport....thats the thing with the sportEngland funding,if we (the RFL) doesn't give a damn and junior & regional development then neither will sportEngland,its their job to support a plan...but there is no plan for them to support..

We're a shambles...
 
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adamkungl

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Is Super League owned by Murdoch companies or was its creation in 96 just assisted by News?
 

kiwileaguefan

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All because they have failed to use the tv money correctly..

If they put all the tv deals,SL,CC & internationals,into one pot and split it fairly then the whole sport would benefit..

As ive said many times before they could have split it like this..

League 1 clubs - £250,000 per season
Championship clubs - £600,000 per season
Super league clubs - £1.825m per season,which is what they are getting under the new deal anyway! so they aren't missing out on anything.

And that leaves £6.2miliion per season,thats £30m over the 5 years of the deal, for the RFL in invest in the sport....thats the thing with the sportEngland funding,if we (the RFL) doesn't give a damn and junior & regional development then neither will sportEngland,its their job to support a plan...but there is no plan for them to support..

We're a shambles...

Cant be any worse than the NZRL.....

We get next to no support in the regions....in my area along nearly the whole board resigned so its left up to the clubs to run....yet we still manage to have kids getting snapped up by NRL clubs even though we only have about 500 players
 

roughyedspud

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Everyones a joke then lol


Just to add as well...our tv deals is worth £200m/$340m over 5 years..its a considerible amount of money...and its being wasted
 

geordie_saint

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All because they have failed to use the tv money correctly..

If they put all the tv deals,SL,CC & internationals,into one pot and split it fairly then the whole sport would benefit..

As ive said many times before they could have split it like this..

League 1 clubs - £250,000 per season
Championship clubs - £600,000 per season
Super league clubs - £1.825m per season,which is what they are getting under the new deal anyway! so they aren't missing out on anything.

And that leaves £6.2miliion per season,thats £30m over the 5 years of the deal, for the RFL in invest in the sport....thats the thing with the sportEngland funding,if we (the RFL) doesn't give a damn and junior & regional development then neither will sportEngland,its their job to support a plan...but there is no plan for them to support..

We're a shambles...

I get what you are saying their spud but it's a slight misinterpretation of where that extra £30m (it's actually closer to £40m) goes to. £20m of that is for Challenge Cup and internationals so much of that gets reinvested back to the clubs whilst £17.8m is for coaching/charitable foundations, which I am presuming is the Sky Try funding. The RFL also takes their share of the SL/Championship funding i.e. £1.825m a year like any club does. So in effect, there is less money kicking about than we think, even more so when we take into account they bribed some clubs to vote for this by offering £100k up front before the TV deal kicked in.

I absolutely agree there is no plan to support the development of the sport and the RFL have managed to get themselves into a vicious circle where they continue to lose funding by failing to meet their targets and do so by lack of investment. The entire organisation lacks leadership and thinks delegating responsibility to the clubs to develop the sport is the way forward without realising the clubs are only interested in feathering their own nests. That pretty sums up Wood, Barwick and Rimmer also...

We need new leadership.
 

roughyedspud

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They got £300k backhanders not £100k

And my point was all the money should have gone into one pot...sod sky try and that foundation bull$hit
 

kiwileaguefan

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http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_24353-rfl-defend-wales-funding-cut.html?utm_medium=twitter

The RFL have defended their planned funding cut of junior development from Wales Rugby League, saying they will continue to support the Welsh body.


WRL has confirmed that the RFL will cut £70,000 in funding from junior development at the end of 2017.

Two WRL staff have been made redundant in anticipation of the loss in funding - coaching and performance development manager Jon Ellis and North Wales development officer Allen Jones.

RFL director of people and projects Jon Dutton told Love Rugby League in a statement: "The RFL’s funding commitment to Wales RL for 2017 will remain unchanged.

"Our contribution is specifically targeted towards junior pathway objectives and isn’t directly related to funding people.

"I have no doubt that the decision to make key posts redundant has not been take lightly by Wales RL particularly at a time when they are making good progress.

"We will continue to support Wales RL at a critical time for the organisation."

WRL chief executive Chris Thair said the decision to make the two staff redundant was not taken lightly.

“Whilst this news may come as a surprise to many, these decisions have not been made lightly or in a short timeframe," he said last month.

"In the summer of this year, the RFL gave a strong indication that their £70,000 annual support to WRL for junior development would cease at the end of 2017; which they have since reaffirmed.

"This early notice was being provided to aid our preparation towards that day.

"We will of course continue to put a strong case forward to the RFL for this not to be the case and try to increase our commercial income from other sources however it would be foolhardy for us not to prepare.

"Since being notified by the RFL, WRL has been undertaking an operational review to ensure we get the maximum return from our limited resources towards achieving our strategic aims.

"The drop in RFL financial support means the only core funding will come from Sport Wales which is around £50,000 per annum.

"Whilst the Sport Wales funding is not guaranteed, we are confident of meeting their targets and don’t see this figure fluctuating too much in the near future.

"£43,000 of the Sport Wales funding covers community work and the remaining £7500 supports coaching pathways.

"Sport Wales do not fund any of the nine origin teams or six international teams directly run by WalesRugby League so these are also part of the same review.

"Our priorities in 2017 centre around our participation in the World Cup, the domestic club competitions and raising commercial income to buffer against the loss of RFL funding and make us more sustainable in the future. This will be reflected in where our resources are prioritised."
 

roughyedspud

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When theres two people (rlif & rlef) above you to look after the international aspect of your job while you're only tasked with dealing with national matters they you can quite easily say.." its not my job to do it"


I really don't get why people are struggling with this?
 

adamkungl

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Is there any indication that either of those bodies are going to increase funding to Wales, Scotland or Ireland? Or are the RFL merely wiping their hands of it and saying it's someone else's problem?

I doubt many people in the international forum hold the view that the NRL have no responsibility to South Pacific RL development.

In both cases, all top RL talent from neighbouring countries is going to end up in the NRL or SL. Which to me implies a moral responsibility to support them.
It is also in Australia and England's best interests competitively to grow their player pool in the local region, outside of Australia and England.
And from a whole of sport point of view, the NRL and RFL both hold a lot more money and power in these regions than any international body, which again places some responsibility on them to support the region.
 
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Probably because for 100 years the rfl were happy to see its member clubs pillage Wales for players, earn money from European Cup games and other Wales internationals and use Welshmen to improve their national team, including using them in teams called "England", and all of a sudden they are so incompetent they are looking for excuses to cut funding anywhere and everywhere they can. This is one of those excuses. "It's not our job" loosely translates to "we're too broke to properly run the sport".

As f**ked as the NRL is, at least they still fund governing bodies like the CRL and qrl instead of telling them to figure it out for themselves. And they're now funding development in Samoa, Tonga and Fiji, not saying "it's not our job".
 

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