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IFR33K

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....and your evidence for that assertion is what? That they sign better players. They may well cheat, but they also have better networks of third parties (like the Broncos), which will give you an advantage even if you don't cheat. And if/when they do cheat, they're probably not dumb enough to videotape the discussion of it.


Mate, it has nothing to do with what previous eels admin done. If you want to be naive and believe no other club stretches tpa's and there rules, then that's fine. Just because there's no evidence, doesn't mean they aren't guilty of any wrong doing.

Some of the shit I've heard politis do is bewildering. Or how about 300k going missing from broncos headquarters, then miraculously reappearing. Coincidence yeah???? Or the cowboys players buying house and Land packages from a CEO. Sounds legit yeah?
 

strider

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....and your evidence for that assertion is what? That they sign better players. They may well cheat, but they also have better networks of third parties (like the Broncos), which will give you an advantage even if you don't cheat. And if/when they do cheat, they're probably not dumb enough to videotape the discussion of it.
FFS barry, it wasn't video taped .... geeez

it was audio :)
 
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Mate, it has nothing to do with what previous eels admin done. If you want to be naive and believe no other club stretches tpa's and there rules, then that's fine. Just because there's no evidence, doesn't mean they aren't guilty of any wrong doing.

Some of the shit I've heard politis do is bewildering. Or how about 300k going missing from broncos headquarters, then miraculously reappearing. Coincidence yeah???? Or the cowboys players buying house and Land packages from a CEO. Sounds legit yeah?

Let's look at these issues one at a time. Your first post suggested that the NRL willingly turns a blind eye to the behaviour of some clubs. That's quite different to saying that some (all) clubs push the boundaries of the rules.....of course they do (or try to). What is your evidence that the NRL treat consciously turn a blind eye to the Dogs / Rooters.? The alternate explanation is that they are better at doing it.

There is zero evidence that the Cowboys bought the properties at anything other than market value (unless you have some evidence).

The Broncos case fell down because nobody would talk to the NRL. And the NRL has no power to compel outsiders to do so. That's not the NRL's fault.
 

strider

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The Broncos case fell down because nobody would talk to the NRL. And the NRL has no power to compel outsiders to do so. That's not the NRL's fault.
was Gee banned for life from the NRL for refusing to cooperate? ... he would have had to sign one of those agreements before he did a runner
 

IFR33K

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Let's look at these issues one at a time. Your first post suggested that the NRL willingly turns a blind eye to the behaviour of some clubs. That's quite different to saying that some (all) clubs push the boundaries of the rules.....of course they do (or try to). What is your evidence that the NRL treat consciously turn a blind eye to the Dogs / Rooters.? The alternate explanation is that they are better at doing it.

There is zero evidence that the Cowboys bought the properties at anything other than market value (unless you have some evidence).

The Broncos case fell down because nobody would talk to the NRL. And the NRL has no power to compel outsiders to do so. That's not the NRL's fault.


Stop playing solicitor and think like an average punter for a moment.
 

strider

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was Gee banned for life from the NRL for refusing to cooperate? ... he would have had to sign one of those agreements before he did a runner
and while I'm at it ... Seward, Irvine, (and maybe Nolan) - facing fraud charges ... did the nrl ever say they were naughty boys?
 

84 Baby

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From the NRL doc that Gronk quoted (emphasis added):

...a contract signed with a rival club will be registered once a 10 business day cooling off period expires.

There was no rival club in the case of Hayne.
It also states:

once a 10 business day cooling off period expires.

There was no cooling off period in the case of Moses.

If it's a case of them wanting a period of 10 days then they need to get rid of the reference to a cooling off period. Because it makes zero sense because in that sense the only party that would/could cool off is the NRL and they are barely a party to the contract. They'd definitely have their reasons for denying registration but one of them shouldn't be that within 10 days they had a change of heart about player x signing with such and such club
 

strider

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yeah, its basically just that the NRL are f**kin slow and need 2 weeks to find the "approved" stamp
 

El Diablo

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...d/news-story/394a0ad0e4d1de16993d141799c4979d

NRL warns clubs on spending spree: contracts may not be registered
MICHAEL CARAYANNIS, The Daily Telegraph
13 minutes ago

BIG-SPENDING clubs have been warned they risk the contracts of their high prized recruits not being registered by the NRL if they exceed the game’s proposed new salary cap.

The NRL wrote to the 16 club chief executives on Thursday night sending a stern warning that the clubs must adhere to the proposed salary cap of $8.84 million for next year — or risk their contracts not being registered.

The proposed salary cap was about $1 million less than clubs had budgeted for next year, throwing recruitment drives into chaos.

Club bosses are expected to wage war against the NRL if the salary cap is not raised.

It is understood the NRL believes that while most clubs are compliant they have concerns some have spent more than the proposed salary cap.

Clubs such as Canterbury and the Roosters will be asked to front up to the NRL and explain their salary cap situation after landing representative stars Aaron Woods, Kieran Foran and James Tedesco on rich deals from next season.

The NRL’s warning also comes as St George Illawarra finalise a four-year deal to retain captain Gareth Widdop.

The Dragons had been forced to increase their offer to retain the 28-year-old five-eighth and are expected to make an announcement in the next two days.

There is widespread belief the salary cap will rise once the Rugby League Players Association puts in its counter offer which is due within weeks.

In the meantime however, the NRL has told clubs to tread carefully with their spending — telling them there is no excuse for exceeding the proposed salary cap in a letter obtained by the Daily Telegraph which was sent by the NRL’s salary cap auditor Richard Gardham.

The NRL’s offer of $9.14 million includes a host of non-player payments including $200,000 for insurance, $100,000 for funding the RLPA and $150,000 for welfare officers — which clubs do not want to include in their salary cap.

“As you are aware we have presented the 2018-2022 draft salary cap to club CEOs and the RLPA as part of the current CBA negotiations,” Gardham said.

“The offer presented to the RLPA provides for $9.14m in salary cap and allowances for the top 30 players in each club (plus six Development List players). On a like-for-like basis this is almost 20 per cent more than the equivalent 2017 figure.

“Clubs were provided with the indicative 2018 salary cap value on 30 March. At this time, it is the NRL’s expectation that this number is used by clubs for planning their 2018 rosters.

“Any club that contracts in excess of this number does so with knowledge of the proposed 2018 salary cap as it currently stands and risks contracts not being registered.

“Any club which believes it is likely to exceed the 2018 salary cap based on current agreements should notify the salary cap auditor immediately with a plan to ensure the club is salary cap compliant for the 2018 Season. Naturally, the NRL will provide support where appropriate.”

One club official said: “The line in the sand attitude has created a huge dilemma for the NRL.”

While the uncertainty surrounding the salary cap has halted some club’s recruitment bids, others have remained active in the player market. There have been threats of legal action if players are forced to move on with fears clubs may need to shed players after over-estimating the salary cap.

Warriors chief executive Jim Doyle said Wednesday’s letter was the first time the clubs had received “clarity” from the NRL.
 
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