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Canard

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It worked with the Broncos.

An entire competition consolidated onto one team and the sport is thriving there.

But of course Sydney is difference because.... reasons.

Very different circumstances.

If a Brisbane team wasnt entered into the NSWRL in 88, the BRL would have been stripped of all its talent regardless.
 

Timmah

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And the remaining Sydney clubs have their own decent support outside of Sydney. For instance Manly, Easts and Cronulla have significant out of Sydney support due to their recent grand final success and their continuing story.
Counts for almost nothing if they can't bring sustained support through their home gates. Penrith, Manly and Cronulla in particular are frequently in the bottom group of average home attendance.
 

Stallion

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Counts for almost nothing if they can't bring sustained support through their home gates. Penrith, Manly and Cronulla in particular are frequently in the bottom group of average home attendance.

The potential/dormant support does count. If it wasn't about then it cannot be harnessed. U take away clubs like the North Sydney Bears etc you take away significsnt support for the code and leave it for another code to plunder.
 

Perth Red

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The potential/dormant support does count. If it wasn't about then it cannot be harnessed. U take away clubs like the North Sydney Bears etc you take away significsnt support for the code and leave it for another code to plunder.

Myth
 

Clifferd

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Getting rid of established clubs is pointless these days. If you were going to do such thing it should've been done 20+ years ago but it's too late now.

Only things that should be considered is mergers (I really support the idea of Manly + Central Coast) 6 games at Brookie 6 games at Central Coast
 

Timmah

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The potential/dormant support does count. If it wasn't about then it cannot be harnessed. U take away clubs like the North Sydney Bears etc you take away significsnt support for the code and leave it for another code to plunder.
How does that make sense? The NRL's best average crowds have happened since rationalisation
 

Timmah

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Getting rid of established clubs is pointless these days. If you were going to do such thing it should've been done 20+ years ago but it's too late now.

Only things that should be considered is mergers (I really support the idea of Manly + Central Coast) 6 games at Brookie 6 games at Central Coast
Wasn't that an abject failure in the early 2000s?
 

Timmah

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The potential/dormant support does count. If it wasn't about then it cannot be harnessed. U take away clubs like the North Sydney Bears etc you take away significsnt support for the code and leave it for another code to plunder.
The dormant support only counts if it can be sustained. Manly made what, four Grand Finals between 2007 and 2013 and only topped out at an average 15k (07 and 11) with 13-14k in the years in between. Never cracked 16k, ever. Cronulla are similar and Penrith sadly are much the same.
 

Stallion

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The dormant support only counts if it can be sustained. Manly made what, four Grand Finals between 2007 and 2013 and only topped out at an average 15k (07 and 11) with 13-14k in the years in between. Never cracked 16k, ever. Cronulla are similar and Penrith sadly are much the same.

The average crowd argument can be misleading. Increased total aggregate crowds necessarily leads to greater overall market and the potential exponential growth flows on from there. In addition giving a free kick to other codes isnt good business!
 

adamkungl

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Parra:
Pass 30k
Good 40k
Excellent 50k

Expect.. 31k

Broncos:
Pass: 40k
Good: 46k
Excellent: Sellout/52k

Expect 44k

By my estimations a good crowd at Parra while Broncos should be a little disappointed with their turnout. Overall a good result outdrawing the AFL though.

Week 3 the margins for success are a bit stricter imo

Melbourne:
Pass 25k
Good 27k
Excellent 30k/announced sellout

Roosters:
Pass 30k
Good 36k
Excellent 42k /announced sellout
 

T-Boon

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Does any club do a free game day magazine?

I've found that there is nothing like leaving a place feeling like you got something extra for free.
 

Timmah

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The average crowd argument can be misleading. Increased total aggregate crowds necessarily leads to greater overall market and the potential exponential growth flows on from there. In addition giving a free kick to other codes isnt good business!

Is that you Buzz?
 

Perth Red

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Bit like the West Coast Pirates? Its dissapointing when the Eels show u doubters that the support is there yet you dont acknowledge it. No wonder your divisive stance works against genuine expansion.

What your pedalling is a total myth, there are no FACTS to back up you assertions. The reality is AFL or Union didn't get a lot more supporters watching on TV or attending games since the Bears were booted. Sydney has more fans watching the game now than when Bears where in comp. Your pedalling a fear mongering myth! One city does not need nine teams in order to stop another code with only 1 or 2 teams taking it over.

Eels got a great crowd because they are one of the well supported Sydney clubs that should be kept in the comp. How about the fact only 30k turned out for the other 3 Sydney teams in Week1 finals games? Like I said 6 teams is plenty, pick the biggest 6 and build on them. Then build big city new teams to really drive the sport forward.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Because Brisbane Broncos was a new team for a better & thriving competition while most of the old teams remained in their competition in a town where Rugby League was already king.
Removing Sydney teams to create scarcity, will just remove the fans in place in the potential of outside markets that DONT have a league mindset and the potential that in 20+ years after the damage done by removing Sydney teams and the fans that those teams had are lost that maybe the new generations of kids will support one of the few Sydney teams left.

Melbourne is not Sydney.
Brisbane is not Sydney.
And Perth is definitely not Sydney.
Stop f**king comparing them when the history, geography and climate are incredibly different.
f**k knows when you dropkicks are going to get that through your f**king heads.
P.S. I know the answer is never.

Haha, yep. Sydney is different because of ... reasons.

Of course it has nothing to do with the fact that you just WANT this to be the case to justify small suburban clubs while these clubs hold the game back and other areas get nothing.
 

Stallion

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What your pedalling is a total myth, there are no FACTS to back up you assertions. The reality is AFL or Union didn't get a lot more supporters watching on TV or attending games since the Bears were booted. Sydney has more fans watching the game now than when Bears where in comp. Your pedalling a fear mongering myth! One city does not need nine teams in order to stop another code with only 1 or 2 teams taking it over.

Eels got a great crowd because they are one of the well supported Sydney clubs that should be kept in the comp. How about the fact only 30k turned out for the other 3 Sydney teams in Week1 finals games? Like I said 6 teams is plenty, pick the biggest 6 and build on them. Then build big city new teams to really drive the sport forward.

You have no grasp of reality in the Sydney area. Besides a growing population it is the foundation of the NRL. Your method of expansion is throwing out the baby and keeping the bath water. Shear lunacy.
 

M2D2

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Haha, yep. Sydney is different because of ... reasons.

Of course it has nothing to do with the fact that you just WANT this to be the case to justify small suburban clubs while these clubs hold the game back and other areas get nothing.
Yeah. and your shtick is "Lets ignore reality because....reasons."
 

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