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RLWC2017 Crowd Watch

Stallion

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Get the f**k out. It's not up to fans to prop up the game. You should never blame the consumers. Simple fact is the people running this tournament and international league haven't engaged the fan base properly.

Lack of promotion, expensive tickets, poor scheduling, negative attitude and attention from the mainstream media and the people involved in and running the game, general lack of international matches to build up interest and a raft of other problems.

Look I agree that there is a general unwarranted apathy amongst rugby league fans towards the international game. Ultimately though it's up to the people running the game to change this.

Expensive ticketing and poor scheduling sum up the mistakes of this world cup! The game play and the fans that have viewed on tv and turned up to the grounds deserve accolades. Especially the football which has been extremely enjoyable! Interested to see if these marketing people continue to treat the potential attending game day fans with exhorbitant ticket prices!? If so, they have not learnt a costly and damaging (to the code) lesson and are incompetent. Perhaps deliberately from what we are seeing?
 

Perth Red

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Get the f**k out. It's not up to fans to prop up the game. You should never blame the consumers. Simple fact is the people running this tournament and international league haven't engaged the fan base properly.

Lack of promotion, expensive tickets, poor scheduling, negative attitude and attention from the mainstream media and the people involved in and running the game, general lack of international matches to build up interest and a raft of other problems.

Look I agree that there is a general unwarranted apathy amongst rugby league fans towards the international game. Ultimately though it's up to the people running the game to change this.

Its up to fans to support the game, in the same way socceroos fans filled ANZ last week for a qualifier. And paid a lot more to do so. Promotion was ok, not great but it would be hard to watch Ch7 and not know the world cup was going to be on. If you are one of the 500K RL fans in Australia you definitely knew it was on. Media agreed, no idea how you stop them numpties from bagging their own sport.

The games in NZ has hopefully shown NZRL that they should be playing regular home games and make a profit doing so. The poor crowds in Australia will justify the NRL's lack of appetite for it.

The crowds haven't been a disaster and not far off the last RLWC held here, at least they have spread the games around a bit more raise its profile in non traditional areas. With a bit more effort from RL fans there wouldn't have been any criticism of crowds.

At least we now have a product cities are willing to pay host which is a MASIVE step up. Two RLWC now we have seen crowds compromised to get money in the bank from hosting cities, I cant see it changing back anytime soon.
 

Perth Red

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How can $20, $16 if your a Telstra customer, be a barrier to attendance? How cheap do you think it should have been? Maybe you think we should pay people to attend to offset this people of influence bias lol
 

Perth Red

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Some games have been overpriced (opener, final), but majority are not I have no problem at all with prices when you can go and see a RLWC game for $20 and I do not believe for one minute this is a key reason why people haven't attended games.

The vast majority of games you could attend for under $30, how can that be overpriced and a barrier to whey people haven't gone?

Id have had the best seats a bit lower than the $50-65 they have been but if you wanted to go to a game you could have done for a very reasonable price.

And if your a Telstra customer how could you not? I've had emails and Facebook sponsored pop ups about it.

So either
1) People haven't gone as they didn't know it was on - hard to believe if you are a RL fan
2) People haven't gone as they couldn't afford it - hard to believe when most games you could see for under $30
3) People haven't gone as they haven't had opportunity - hard to believe given the wide spread of the host venues with really only Adelaide as a big pop centre not having chance to get to a game within reasonable travel distance
3) People haven't gone because they don't care about International RL (or RL generally) - much much more likely (and much harder to solve)
 
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Stallion

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Some games have been overpriced (opener, final), but majority are not I have no problem at all with prices when you can go and see a RLWC game for $20 and I do not believe for one minute this is a key reason why people haven't attended games.

The vast majority of games you could attend for under $30, how can that be overpriced and a barrier to whey people haven't gone?

Id have had the best seats a bit lower than the $50-65 they have been but if you wanted to go to a game you could have done for a very reasonable price.

And if your a Telstra customer how could you not? I've had emails and Facebook sponsored pop ups about it.

So either
1) People haven't gone as they didn't know it was on - hard to believe if you are a RL fan
2) People haven't gone as they couldn't afford it - hard to believe when most games you could see for under $30
3) People haven't gone as they haven't had opportunity - hard to believe given the wide spread of the host venues with really only Adelaide as a big pop centre not having chance to get to a game within reasonable travel distance
3) People haven't gone because they don't care about International RL (or RL generally) - much much more likely (and much harder to solve)

The prices have been too high and the convoluted purchasing /allocation process when buying tickets has lost potential ticket purchasers as well. Scheduling has been problematic too. That's the genuine reasoning for the lower than expected attendances.
 

Raiderdave

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Oh but double-headers for QFs will make us look 7th rate! It will be 10k crowds for both and no one will come to watch Tonga because they see them play in the NRL each week! Soccer, Union not even darts has quarter final double-headers!

Nah we should go further. Every final at ANZ Stadium mid-week. Our weekend, hill-stadiums tournament is too backward.

& the point & this idiot continue to be in different post codes
Ill type slow so .... try & keep up

Australia V Samoa
England V PNG @ AAMI park .. 25K

the NZ double header @ Wellington ... 25K

as many fans
far better look

thanks for your time .... dopey lol
 

Raiderdave

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RL fans in Australia and NZ need to take a hard look at themselves. Our game needs all the support it can get, its us against the world. Yet when it comes down to RL fans standing up and getting behind their sport where are they? There are 20k Melbourne storm fans, looking at the Melbourne crowd 70% of them were England fans, where the neutrals? Kiwi fans where were you in Wellington? If the Kiwi and Souths fans that attend games in perth had turned up for the RLWC games we would have sold out NIB,
We can blame ticket cost, seat allocation or venue choice all we like but until RL fans get of their arses and support THEIR game we will never match union, cricket or soccer fans when it comes to internationals.

Rant over!

how about the English get better at their game
they're the reason international RL has all but died across the globe

lets not forget , origin in the 1960's & the 50 years before it was Lions V the Kangaroos
nothing was bigger

then the poms forgot how to play
end of
 

Perth Red

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how about the English get better at their game
they're the reason international RL has all but died across the globe

lets not forget , origin in the 1960's & the 50 years before it was Lions V the Kangaroos
nothing was bigger

then the poms forgot how to play
end of

Lol. Money talks. Reality is Australia has forged ahead with revenue increases in last twenty years and England Rl hasn’t. Nothing to do with knowing how to play. Simple equation that is well proven, more money equals improved standards.
 

user_nat

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I reckon both these semis will go close to selling out.
Suncorp won't go close.

They'll be lucky to crack low 20s with $76 to sit behind the posts. Judging by where you can buy tickets right now, even 20k may be pushing it.

Final prices are considerably worse.. maybe I'm underestimating the desireableness of this event.
 

Irish-bulldog

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Suncorp won't go close.

They'll be lucky to crack low 20s with $76 to sit behind the posts. Judging by where you can buy tickets right now, even 20k may be pushing it.

Final prices are considerably worse.. maybe I'm underestimating the desireableness of this event.
Ticket prices are beyond stupid.
 

insert.pause

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There's no great secret why crowds have been disappointing, venues were chosen on the basis of who paid the most, not where the crowds are. We all knew it before the tournament started. Had NSW not withdrawn their bid we wouldn't be as disappointed.
 

Stallion

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That would mean the most expensive ticket was just £2 more than the cheapest ticket at the World Cup Opener, Wembley SFs and Final in 2013. The most expensive was $173 roughly.

Yep. Given where rugby-league is as a sport trying to gain international relevance and popularity. Absolutely. This 'promotional' pricing for now is appropriate. Give some to get alot later! The game is in its infancy stages compared to others on the international scene. Big crowds are better than vacant stadiums to showcase a game that deserves greater recognition and presence.
 

Raiderdave

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Lol. Money talks. Reality is Australia has forged ahead with revenue increases in last twenty years and England Rl hasn’t. Nothing to do with knowing how to play. Simple equation that is well proven, more money equals improved standards.

theres only really been money in the game since the mid 1990's
the English have been crap since the 1970's
why would anyone want to watch them , let alone any other international sides
 

Burns

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Edit: Tickets back online and for sale now in Auckland

CAT C ($40) is single seats only which are the entire areas behind the goal posts. I hope all the Bays behind the Southern goalposts were put on sale.

CAT A ($85) is moving pretty well considering that not all the bays are on sale. Half of the Upper and Lower Eastern Stand are on sale, unsure if the Bays not on sale are already gone or being held back considering they are the central ones - the 'best seats'.

CAN B ($65) moving very strongly.
 
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