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Manly Salary Cap

ed-grimley

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The rich clubs conspiring to keep the poor clubs poor.
 

El Diablo

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You really are a sad individual, you really want Manly to be punished just because your cheating mob was last year.
is that the best you can come up with lol

people want your mob punished because they're cheats and have been caught out
 

Scaven

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is that the best you can come up with lol

people want your mob punished because they're cheats and have been caught out
You seem to be the only one in here thinking that. Also they haven't even replied to the alleged breach yet moron.
 

El Diablo

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You seem to be the only one in here thinking that.
really lol

all other fans think this is a stitch up?

that's what you lot think

and this is just after a quick glance

https://silvertails.net/threads/salary-cap-witch-hunt-manly.52513/

This fight may not be too long-winded and expensive if the domino's start tumbling and Greenberg chooses to find an "honourable" way to save his face/arse and let us go about our thing, for a short while at least.


The more this reads the more it’s looking like a stich up at any cost.
Here we go people. Step up the great Bozo!
Hopefully Bobby F gets involved again and gives Toddy some kind of a verbal uppercut, which he so badly deserves

I feel like the tide is slowly turning against Toddy and the NRL.

I know one thing that is certain.

If you take on Bob Fulton you lose, no matter what.

Bob is a winner, always has been and always will be.

Can you feel it building yed Todd?
Can you feel that it's all starting to crumble?

You've gone too far and people are starting to get their backs up.

Journo's are writing negatives and saying their piece.

Time to back off and MAYBE save your arse.

the Silvertails nuthouse has spoken lol
 

Delboy

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Feels like the worst thing that the Eels actually said in the transcript was when someone piped up with " this is how the Broncos do it"

Domed from that point, how dare anyone actually suggest such a thing :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Teflon needed to get the whip out quick, strange that the comment saw no action or follow up ( who would have thought that)
 

El Diablo

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Feels like the worst thing that the Eels actually said in the transcript was when someone piped up with " this is how the Broncos do it"

Domed from that point, how dare anyone actually suggest such a thing :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Teflon needed to get the whip out quick, strange that the comment saw no action or follow up ( who would have thought that)
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El Diablo

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You spend so much time watching other teams fans,wishing your own team had some
but one of the conspiracy theories over there is this is really a secret plot by the NRL to relocate you to Perth because you're a weak club with no fans so nobody will care[/QUOTE]
 

El Diablo

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Here is something else which just came to mind. Before anybody thinks I am excusing cheating the salary cap , I am not and don't. Let us just say that it is true that Todd Greenberg indeed dislikes Manly with a passion. It definitely comes across that way at times. It is no secret that the NRL would love another team based in QLD , Perth or wherever. They have also stated previously (more than once) that 16 teams is the right amount (which I agree with).
Also the argument there is too many Sydney teams. If they could get rid of a Sydney based team or get / force one to relocate then I am sure that we would be the top pick or close to it.
If you look at the other Sydney teams then they probably have more political power than we do. Get rid / relocate Parra , Canterbury , Easts , Souths , Penrith - not a chance in hell. Out of the Wests Tigers / Dragons / Cronulla and us , we would be the team most in danger in many ways.
Not as wealthy , lower supporter base / membership than some , also not a part of Sydney that the league seems to particularly give two hoots about. Basically if there was no team based in Central Coast / north of harbour bridge ever again then I don't think that the NRL would lose too much sleep.
First the match fixing allegations. No apology. If we are indeed guilty of this the salary cap breaches then show true facts and stop stating POTENTIAL breaches. I think the NRL would love if Manly went bust / broke.
We definitely seem to take more allegations / hits than other teams .
This is not the conclusion that I have come too out of all this but just something which crossed my mind today.
Feel free to disagree / shout me down if this comes across as a pile of dribble.
 

GongPanther

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ROOSTERS CEO Joe Kelly has been suspended for nine months for his role in the Manly Sea Eagles salary cap scandal.

NRL boss Todd Greenberg broke the news to Kelly this morning as he prepared for a press conference to reveal the full punishment from the Sea Eagles cap rorting.

The Daily Telegraph understands the NRL has uncovered serious breaches after being tipped off by the police strike force that investigated match-fixing for 18 months.

They found no betting rorts but suspicious payments to players going back three years.

Kelly was chief executive at Manly for three years before joining the Roosters in April 2017.

The Manly case is not as bad as the Parramatta Eels, Melbourne Storm, Canterbury Bulldogs but at the very next level down.

The NRL will hold a press conference at midday Monday to announce their verdict after months of deliberations.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/3d4071ad5c40244cf326f1162ac11966
 

GongPanther

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Manly Sea Eagles salary cap: NRL hands down punishment
Phil Rothfield, The Daily Telegraph
4-5 minutes
THE Manly Sea Eagles have been fined $750,000 and former general manager Bob Fulton is facing a ban from being an Australian selector for salary cap rorting over the last five years.

The NRL found the Sea Eagles had made payments if $1.5 million outside cap rules after a nine-month investigation of phone and computer records.

In other punishments handed down by NRL CEO Todd Greenberg:

• The Manly Sea Eagles will have to play $330,000 under the cap for 2018 and 2019

• Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett will get an official warning

• Bob Fulton will not be allowed to continue as a Kangaroos selector

• Roosters CEO Joe Kelly, the former Manly boss, has been suspended for nine months

• Manly Sea Eagles chief operating officer Neil Bare has been suspended for 12 months

• Manly has been fined $750,000, with $250,000 suspended if the club undertakes appropriate governance changes to ensure there is no repeat of the breaches.

The NRL said the Sea Eagles had been fined $750,000 for breaches spanning the last five years.

Greenberg said an investigation by the NRL’s integrity unit had uncovered evidence of deliberate breaches of the cap.

“The investigation found a number of cases where players were offered undisclosed benefits outside the salary cap to attract them to the club,” Greenberg said.

“These benefits were in the form of third party agreements which were never declared to the salary cap auditor.

“In other words, Manly had a financial advantage in securing the services of players who may otherwise have gone to other clubs.

“Our salary cap is the main reason we have the closest competition in Australian sport and we will not tolerate any attempt to breach it.

“Every club needs to be aware that any attempt to cheat the salary cap will eventually be detected and the club involved will be heavily sanctioned.”

Manly invited the NRL to conduct a salary cap review in July 2017.

The ensuing investigation reviewed more than 800,000 documents, emails and text messages and other data from the phones and computers of club officials.

In addition, numerous current and former officials and players were interviewed.

There were no findings of wrong-doing by the providers of third party agreements to Manly players. Instead the club breached its obligations under the NRL rules in relation to those agreements.

Fulton quit his role as general manager of the Sea Eagles one month into the investigation.

He was not interviewed by the integrity unit.

As he is not a registered official, the NRL was powerless to hand down a penalty.

But Greenberg made it clear he would not be considered as an Australian selector.

Evidence was uncovered from his phone of his involvement in most contract negotiations.

Greenberg said the club was currently cap compliant and no competition points would be deducted.

“We have to ensure the penalties for cheating the cap remain a deterrent,” he said.

“We have had such a successful start to the 2018 season that every fan from every club can reasonably expect their team to play in the finals.

“So we make no apology for taking a hard stance against breaches of the cap — it is something we will continue to be vigilant in protecting.”

Manly and each club official has the right to appeal the matter to the NRL Appeals Committee.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...k=ecb07e9fb942bc300fe60d809f8e60d3-1522026113
 

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