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Old 23-04-2013, 09:38 AM
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Yep, got my concession card, Quigs.
Here's a great promo from the club, stick it to 'em Sharks, no matter how much they try to hurt us: http://www.sharks.com.au/news-displa...iving-In/72947
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Old 23-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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Here is a reply I received today via email with a PDF attachment from Lundy in reply correspondence dated 6th Feb. For what its worth
sorry about the quality of the copy and paste

SENATOR THE HON KATE LUNDY
MINISTER FOR SPORT
MINISTER FOR MULTICULTURAL AFFAIRS
MINISTER ASSISTINC FOR INDUSTRY AND INNOVATION


SENATORF ORT HE A.C.T
2 7 AP?RX fi
c13/186
Dear Mr (deleted)
Thank you for your correspondenceo f L6 February2 013o utlining your concerns
regarding the releaseo f the Australian Crime Commission's( ACC) report on
Organised Crime and Drugs in Sport.
\Alhile I understand that the revelations of the ACC report were disturbing, I was
not prepared to ignore them as some commentators have suggested the
Government should have done. I was also not prepared to release the names of
individuals implicated through the ACC report becauseth ere was still substantial
work that needed to be done and individuals should be presumed innocent until
proven guilty.
\A/hilet he ACC investigationf ocussedo n two sporting codes,t he messagefr om
the ACC was clear. If the Government did not act, then there was a real risk that
more sports and athletes could be in danger.
It is important to acknowledge that the ACC investigation has shown that links
and relationships exist between athletes, professional sporting bodies, prohibited
substancesa nd organisedc rime. Furthermore,a ny possibility of athletesb eing
exposed to dangerous and unproven practices warranted a goverrunent response.
I agree with ACC CEO John Lawler when he said that he would prefer to be out
explaining why he released the ACC report, as opposed to explaining to a coroner
about why he didn't act while knowing that athletes were at risk.
I know this has beend ifficult for sportsf ans.B ut, my messageis that the only
reputations that are damaged by the ACC report are of those athletes and support
personnel who have cheated through doping.
Telephone: (02) 6277 79n . Parliament House, Canberra A.C.T 2600 . Facsimile: (O2) 62237,172
Based on the findings of the ACC investigation, the Government is working with
sporting organisations to strengthen Australia's anti-doping arrangements and to
strengthen the integrity of sport generally. This includes:
a) increasing the resources available to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping
Authority to undertake investigations;
b) improving the investigatory work program and the intelligence management
capacity within the National lntegrity of Sport Unig and
c) looking at stronger arrangements for informing relevant agencies of instances
of inappropriate activity by medical practitioners, pharmacists and other
health workers.
The Government has also recently introduced legislation into the Parliament to
strengthen the powers of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority to better
equip it to detect and address doping in sport.
Australia has a proud reputation of ensuring that sport is clean and athletes are
able to compete in a fair and safe environment. The Australian Government is
committed to upholding these standards. Thank you for raising the matter with
me.
Yours sincerely
Kate Lundy

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Old 23-04-2013, 01:07 PM
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Nice boiler-plate. I use them quite a bit in my job. They make replying to emails really easy.
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Old 23-04-2013, 02:11 PM
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What a fargin load of nonsense.

Makes me angry.
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Old 23-04-2013, 02:15 PM
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Typical politician speak.....plenty of waffle but doesn't really say anything. Fark they have no respect for their constituents.
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Old 23-04-2013, 02:47 PM
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There is a couple of clear messages in this and a few very obtuse ones as well. From my reading they have names (say so clearly), they don't have enough evidence to hammer anyone yet (work still required), however rather than sit in silence and wait for the evidence to emerge they have taken the high ground and played their hand perhaps too early under the guise of harm prevention at the expense of a scalp. In one fell swoop they have fired a warning shot over the bow of those that should be worried. However, like the 2 atom bombs in WW2 the enemy might wonder if they have more. I suspect they have used em all up. Now their bluff is being called. The Sharkies should have waited but for all I know the names she has and didn't want to release may be BWB ones. Seems though that the AFL are in the shit now, but one thing is clear, they haven't progressed very far and with the murk in the water I believe a cut and dried result will be impossible to achieve. Amnesty, warning and huge consequences from now on and nothing more this time. The letter may have been penned for Miss Lundy but looks genuine enough and doesn't smack of the usual pro forma drivel. She would have approved it for release. I reckon she was trying to do the right thing but has been embroiled with other political issues. Just my thoughts.

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Old 23-04-2013, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gunnamatta bay View Post
Here is a reply I received today via email with a PDF attachment from Lundy in reply correspondence dated 6th Feb. For what its worth
sorry about the quality of the copy and paste

SENATOR THE HON KATE LUNDY
MINISTER FOR SPORT
MINISTER FOR MULTICULTURAL AFFAIRS
MINISTER ASSISTINC FOR INDUSTRY AND INNOVATION


SENATORF ORT HE A.C.T
2 7 AP?RX fi
c13/186
Dear Mr (deleted)
Thank you for your correspondenceo f L6 February2 013o utlining your concerns
regarding the releaseo f the Australian Crime Commission's( ACC) report on
Organised Crime and Drugs in Sport.
\Alhile I understand that the revelations of the ACC report were disturbing, I was
not prepared to ignore them as some commentators have suggested the
Government should have done. I was also not prepared to release the names of
individuals implicated through the ACC report becauseth ere was still substantial
work that needed to be done and individuals should be presumed innocent until
proven guilty.
\A/hilet he ACC investigationf ocussedo n two sporting codes,t he messagefr om
the ACC was clear. If the Government did not act, then there was a real risk that
more sports and athletes could be in danger.
It is important to acknowledge that the ACC investigation has shown that links
and relationships exist between athletes, professional sporting bodies, prohibited
substancesa nd organisedc rime. Furthermore,a ny possibility of athletesb eing
exposed to dangerous and unproven practices warranted a goverrunent response.
I agree with ACC CEO John Lawler when he said that he would prefer to be out
explaining why he released the ACC report, as opposed to explaining to a coroner
about why he didn't act while knowing that athletes were at risk.
I know this has beend ifficult for sportsf ans.B ut, my messageis that the only
reputations that are damaged by the ACC report are of those athletes and support
personnel who have cheated through doping.
Telephone: (02) 6277 79n . Parliament House, Canberra A.C.T 2600 . Facsimile: (O2) 62237,172
Based on the findings of the ACC investigation, the Government is working with
sporting organisations to strengthen Australia's anti-doping arrangements and to
strengthen the integrity of sport generally. This includes:
a) increasing the resources available to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping
Authority to undertake investigations;
b) improving the investigatory work program and the intelligence management
capacity within the National lntegrity of Sport Unig and
c) looking at stronger arrangements for informing relevant agencies of instances
of inappropriate activity by medical practitioners, pharmacists and other
health workers.
The Government has also recently introduced legislation into the Parliament to
strengthen the powers of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority to better
equip it to detect and address doping in sport.
Australia has a proud reputation of ensuring that sport is clean and athletes are
able to compete in a fair and safe environment. The Australian Government is
committed to upholding these standards. Thank you for raising the matter with
me.
Yours sincerely
Kate Lundy

So Kate Lundy = ssb68 = The Messiah.

FMD, it's Morpheus II
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Old 23-04-2013, 08:32 PM
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ASADA have nothing, don't worry i have said this all along
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Old 23-04-2013, 10:36 PM
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Lol they only released a report because they were concerned football players may die, despite it supposedly going on for sometime without anyone croaking.

Thats some good fertiliser
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Old 23-04-2013, 11:57 PM
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Elkin's bravery will be rewarded at some point.
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Old 24-04-2013, 04:25 AM
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Quote:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226627409317

NRL boss Dave Smith last night finally lost his patience with ASADA after the agency called off interviews with Sharks players at short notice.

Cronulla players were also fuming last night after ASADA called off their interviews, which were to begin today, condemning the team to several more weeks of uncertainty.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that lawyers contacted the 10 players wanted for interview around lunchtime yesterday to inform them of the delay - less than 24 hours before the first meeting was scheduled.

The delay tipped Smith over the edge, with the NRL boss planning to take it up with the anti-doping authority today.

"It's been three months," Smith said. "It's just not good enough to cancel interviews at this point.

"ASADA should get on with it and I'll be making that clear."

It's understood ASADA needs additional time to gather evidence and the interviews now won't commence for at least another fortnight.

The delay ensures that there will be several more weeks of uncertainty around the club.

A source close to the players last night revealed their frustration.

"This has now basically screwed their season," the source said.

"They've already been waiting a month since receiving the interview notices, and now ASADA suddenly wants more time.

"It might be another two or three weeks until anyone is interviewed, and then that will take a few weeks.

"Then it will take another few weeks for ASADA to decide what to do. That's a long time to leave the players hanging.

"It's just not good enough."

Sharks general manager Steve Noyce confirmed the delay, expressing his frustration on behalf of the coaching staff, who had even changed training schedules to accommodate the interviews over the coming fortnight.

"I said to the players the end of the process will come quicker once they start the formal part of the process," Noyce said.

"We made ourselves available for interviews. We discussed the preparation required and making sure that we assisted in any way we can.

"Training times were also altered.

"So it's certainly frustrating to learn that they've been called off."

According to ASADA's original timeline, the interviews were to be completed early next month.

Now they have little chance of beginning then, with legal argument about the players' obligations the initial reason for the delay.

But once the players had been assured they were not required to give incriminating evidence, the interviews were set to take place quickly, starting with Cronulla.

The NRL was only made aware of the change late yesterday, with Smith speaking of his expectation for interviews to begin this week at the announcement of major changes to the NRL.

"We've always made it clear that we wanted the investigation to be completed as soon as possible," an NRL spokesman said.
Its just plain ridiculous now.
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Old 24-04-2013, 04:36 AM
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this is a complete clusterf**K.
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Old 24-04-2013, 05:35 AM
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Could be under orders to stretch this farce out until September?
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Old 24-04-2013, 06:49 AM
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They probably want to interview the f**kwit speed dealer that sought his 15 minutes of fame the other night.
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Old 24-04-2013, 07:13 AM
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Keystone cops.
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