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09 :: R10 Sun :: Warriors 12 Cowboys 34 @ Mt Smart

Heritage Round 10 - Warriors v Cowboys

  • Draw after Golden Point

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Apey

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:lol:

Man for a period there it looked like neither team wanted to win until the Cowboys finally broke through and turned things up a notch.

I was pretty confident of tipping a Cowboys win in this game but I thought it would be a lot closer than that! I suppose it was until the last 10 minutes.. :crazy:
 
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IMO the Warriors lost on the basis of too many pushed passes and risky attack.

The Cowboys sweated on these errors.

Warriors fans - do you think Jones is giving the backline the momentum required ??. Fien seemed to do a lot of the organising over Jones ??.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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IMO the Warriors lost on the basis of too many pushed passes and risky attack.

The Cowboys sweated on these errors.

Warriors fans - do you think Jones is giving the backline the momentum required ??. Fien seemed to do a lot of the organising over Jones ??.

I don't think anybody is giving the backline direction either that or Jones and Fien are giving mixed messages. The attacking structure is an absolutely shambles.

Just a few problems are...

1) Our decoys are the worst in the league, no defense falls for them because they never look like getting the ball and the halves never look like using them as genuine ball runners.

2) Our second man plays are either too deep or too wide, once again very predictable. If you want to know which Warrior is going to get the ball just look for the one who's running.

3) Panic play. Warriors have no patience. When you're in the opposition 20 why would you kick it on the 2rd and 4th tackle when nobody else knows about it? That seems to be a Fien special, he runs out of options so rather than settling down he kicks it.

4) Short kicking game. Once again Fien sucks in this department. Kemp should of had a hattrick today with Manu not far behind. A half with an average short kicking game would've at least produced one or two tries. It wasn't the conditions or bad bounces/luck that stopped the Warriors from scoring, it was Fien's lack of finesse and execution.

5) Inability to use the talent that's out wide. On paper the Warriors outside backs have a lot of talent in them, unfortunately whenever the Warriors get on a roll or make a half break they seem content to take another hitup or steal an extra 10 metres from dummy half. They never go wide and give guys like Vatuvei, Kemp, Matulino, Ropati etc zero chance of getting one on one with a retreating defence.

6) Bomb, bomb, bomb, Manu, Manu, Manu. It seems to be the only set play the Warriors have. Let's get it to Manu, or, let's bomb it and hope a mistake gives us a repeat set. No forward thinking or attempts to create, they're just hoping for luck. A very negative mindset.

Conclusion - Predictable, lack of basic fundamentals, boring, uncreative.

The forwards are doing the hard yards (most of the time) and should've been rewarded with wins over Souths and the Dragons (both teams defended damn well but the Warriors should've put them away). Instead the lack of spark cost them as they fumbled away for 60 minutes before allowing both teams to come back, score, and win.
 
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Totally agree...well summed up.

The Warriors backs stand too deep and it is easy to pick off their decoys.

They would be more effective if they stood the backs flat and ran Vatuvei at the line.

Also agree with the panic plays..razzle dazzle does nothing. Miracle balls, little chips etc will not win games and the Cowboys just sweated on this and killed the Warriors at their own game.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Totally agree...well summed up.

The Warriors backs stand too deep and it is easy to pick off their decoys.

They would be more effective if they stood the backs flat and ran Vatuvei at the line.

Also agree with the panic plays..razzle dazzle does nothing. Miracle balls, little chips etc will not win games and the Cowboys just sweated on this and killed the Warriors at their own game.

Yeah, off loads are great when the line is already bent back and there's support players in better positions. Throwing the ball out the back in blind hope isn't quite as useful.

Packer's off load to McKinnon today was the sort of thing they should be trying to do more of. Quick play the ball, Henderson draws the markers, Packer runs hard and straight with support play running at speed.

The Warriors will always have decent go forward with their props. When the warriors play direct guys then guys like McKinnon, Hohaia, Fien can tear teams apart up the middle. If they go wide after that then they've got the strike power to dismantle unsettled defensive lines.

Sounds so simple, yet they make it look so hard.
 

Charlie124

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How does Carl Webb get a run each week ? Woeful

Because occasionally he plays as well as he did last week, there was no way he was going to be dropped after that. But unfortunately those performances are few and far between and we're fairly likely to see a string of average games before he puts on another cracker.

Just to put it into perspective though, Steve Price made as many errors as Webb today while being the only warriors forward to make more meters.
 

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