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2011 ROUND 10: Panthers -V- Ninjas

Jesbass

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Penrith Panthers -V- Chuck Norris Texas Death Ninjas

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Game Thread:

* This is a game thread only. Only game posts can be made here - team lists, substitutions, and articles.
* Any other posts may result in loss of points and is at the discretion of the referee.
* Only original articles, not used in previous games, will be marked by referees.

Naming Teams:
* 5 -V- 5 (+ 2 reserves for the visiting team, + 3 reserves for the home team)
* No 'TBA' or changing players named
* Captains must stick with original teams named

Rules: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/rules.php
Official Word Counter: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/wordcount.php

Kick Off: Sunday 21st August 2011 (2100AEST)
Full Time: Wednesday 31st August 2011 (2100AEST)
Referee: Drew-Sta
Venue: CUA Stadium
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Previous Matchups This Season:
Ninjas 438 v Panthers 431 (Round 5)
Ninjas 263 v Panthers 261 (Willow Cup Round 1)
 
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edabomb

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Cheers Jesbass

The Ninjas struggle off the bus - all limping with nagging injuries from a long season of action.

Starting
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CobyDelaney
gUt
jamesgould
joshie

Bench
Hallatia
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Big Mick

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The Panthers stumble onto the field ready for battle:

1. Broncoman
2. Azkatro
3. Madunit
4. Leaguenut
5. Big Mick

RES:
6. Didgi
7. Goleel
 

madunit

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madunit for the Panthers

The ‘Brains Trust’ meets ‘The Reality’

Rupert: Welcome all to this meeting for rugby league's best known writers and journalists. The purpose of today’s meeting is to work out what controversies we will be publishing in 2012

*A ringing phone interrupts Rupert*

Rupert: Excuse me *answers phone* Matt, your wife just left a message on your mobile, wants you to pick up some milk on your way home.
Logue: Hey? What the...!
Rupert: Shh. Ok, where was I? Oh yes, 2012 controversies. What stories have we all been working on?
Tsialis: I've got a great piece about Akuila Uate and the lengths he went to as a kid to get himself involved in rugby league, whether just to watch it on television, or even just to play.
Wilson: And?
Tsialis: And what?
Rupert: I think what Becky is trying to say is, on a range of one to ten on how exciting your story is, it scores a gaping wide, yawning zero.
Wilson: Was he drunk?
Tsialis: Drunk? What? No! He was seven years old!
Rupert: Was he assaulting a woman?
Tsialis: No!
Wilson: Scrap it. I've got a great piece about Todd Carney...
Rupert: Can we get someone else Becky, please? Todd's a bit worn out now, people are used to his name being synonymous with disheveled antics, we need someone new, someone untarnished.
Rothfield: How about Hindmarsh?
Wilson: Okay, Hindmarsh then. Anyways, he was out on the drink, went to the Turkish Embassy, did a poo on the doorstep while naked, used their flag to wipe his bottom, ran around with a bra on his head, punched a priest, urinated on a bus full of schoolgirls and assaulted an ageing female librarian.
Logue: Oh my God! I can’t believe Hindy would do such a thing. When did that happen?
Wilson: Happen?
Rupert: Huh?
Logue: When did Hindmarsh do all of that?
Wilson: Sorry, I’m missing your premise entirely.
Tsialis: Did this actually happen?
Rothfield: You people are idiots.
Wilson: It doesn’t matter if this happened.
Rupert: Sorry Matt, I'm not sure you understand the purpose of this meeting.
Weidler: I have a scoop!
Rothfield: What is it?
Weidler: Paul Gallen is going to be the Sharks captain in 2011.
Logue: It already is 2011 and he’s already their captain.
Weidler: Ah-ha! I was right. My mail is always right.
Tsialis: It’s not right, it’s late.
Weidler: Last time I checked Maria, late wasn’t the opposite of right.
Rothfield: All of the Dragons players are rapists. I say hang them all.
Logue: Are you sure about that?
Rothfield: Well that’s my opinion. Thus it must clearly be true.
Logue: I don't think that is good enough to be completely honest.
Rupert: No Matt, Phil is right.
Rothfield: Furthermore, Thurston is not tough enough for rep footy anymore.
Tsialis: He’s been playing great this year!
Rothfield: Yeah, but he’s soft.
Logue: How many NRL games have you played Phil?
Rothfield: Sorry, I’m missing your premise entirely.
Weidler: I just got some more news, hot off the press!
Wilson: What have you got for us Danny boy?
Weidler: Ummmmmmmm…..
Tsialis: You don’t have anything do you?
Weidler: No…yeah I do, I’m just trying to remember it. I thought up a good one.

*five minutes of silence*

Weidler: Ah-ha! I got it! Darren Lockyer will play for the Western Reds in 2011.
Rupert: Great stuff Daniel, however I think you should focus your attention on 2012.
Weidler: Oh. Right. Darren Lockyer will play for the Adelaide Rams in 2012.
Rupert: That’s better!

*Rupert gives Danny a gold star and a lollipop. Danny sits in the corner contented*

Logue: So at what stage will anyone actually speak to players about upcoming stories?
Rupert: Why would we do that?
Logue: Well that’s where the stories are, obviously.
Rupert: Sorry, I’m missing your premise entirely.
Wilson: I’m sorry Matt but I don’t think you’ve grasped this concept at all.
Logue: Well it seems to me that if we want to report the goings-on of Rugby League and its players, we should be speaking with people in Rugby League and its players.
Wilson: Is that what they are teaching you kids nowadays in journalism school?

*phone rings*

Tsialis: Excuse me; I just have to take this.
Rupert: Its ok Maria, I'll get it.

*Rupert pulls out his own phone and answers Maria’s call*

Rupert: Telemarketers, I hate those scammers! There’s nothing they won’t do to try and con me into giving them my money!

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joshie

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Joshie in for the ninjas; 743 words according to the OWC

come at my person in an agressive mannor, male sibling.

Rugby League is not a sport for people who can’t take a hit; nor is it something for people who can’t make a tackle. No this game is for true men and women with a fighting spirit that won’t say die until the siren sounds. But to play this sport, for over 10 years in the top grade would be tough to anybody, and what interests me is what drives the players to keep going. With the injuries they receive, it’s a wonder they play, but I think I have discovered the reasons as to why they play. So here they are, the top five reasons people play Rugby League!

5. The love of the game
By all means, this should be the top priority for all players, as this is how all careers start. If you don’t love your job then why would you continue to do it week in, week out, especially when a job like professional Rugby League is so taxing on the body, mind and leisure time? I for one probably wouldn’t be still playing the local competitions or even with mates if I didn’t love this sport so much, it’s a brutal show of courage. Just yesterday, I went in to make a tackle and used my head as somewhat of a battering ram and was kneed in the face; ouch. But I went on with the tackle, no disregard for safety, put the ball carrier down and then realised what had happened, this was just my love and passion showing itself in the heat of the moment.

4. For the Fans
Players do in fact feed off the fans, contrary to the belief of many. If the Tigers fans weren’t so supportive of Benji Marshall, I highly doubt he would have the courage to do even half the stuff he manages to do. He is a freak and his fans are the driving force. Tim Sheens himself has told the media and probably his team that this is not a circus, it is a team and they are out there to do a job first and foremost before the trick shots come in, but when the crowd gets its electrifying buzz; enter Mr. Marshall.

3. Accomplishment
You hear from every single Rugby League player that all they want to do is go on to win the National Rugby League Grand Final, win a State of Origin series and to tour with their country through tournaments such as the World Cup and Four Nations events,. This leads me to believe that accomplishment or the sense of, is another driving force in signing contracts. Earlier in the year I wrote a summary of my school Rugby League team’s journey from zero to hero in one season, and explained why we wanted it more. We got belted for years and years, but one year we finally put forward a formidable squad and took out the title. The accomplishment we felt from that day was amazing, probably better than me losing my virginity, it was just fantastic! We had worked so hard for so long and the end of it all was sensational; excuse the pun.

2. Money, Money, Money…..Money
Please be advised you are to sing this next title in that song tune used on Donald Trump’s show, The Apprentice. Once you have done that you may read on. Okay so thanks for that, but of course, this is the second biggest factor going through a young man’s mind when deciding to sign up or not. The rewards for playing first grade Football are amazing, you could be earning up to $500,000 a season and make a much better living for yourself. And the fact that is that it's the only job most of the players have ever had, it is amazing that half of them aren’t homeless when they retire. But no matter what anyone tells you, money talks.

1. Family
There is only one thing that outweighs money, even your own life, and that is your family. I know for one when mum got sick with cancer, it drove me to be a better person and also it forced me to move out at 16, just so she could support herself. This is what people do for their families and I have no doubt in my mind that family is the main factor in signing contracts, taking hits and scoring tries. Money talks, but family acts.
 
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broncoman

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#1 - Panthers

Playing Out Of Position

Rugby League is a fantastic game played by 13 men who play a team also made up of 13 men, it’s played on a field that is more or less the same size each time, these are facts. What then is the major variable on deciding who wins each time two teams play? It is of course the players available, digging a bit deeper it seems that where certain players are placed on the field is also a major factor. Why is this so? Just because one player is fantastic playing somewhere on the field, why does he become so useless when he's moved 20 metres to his right? I'm not about to answer this age old question, but perhaps to look at some current NRL players who might excel given a different role.

Fullback to the Halves
Much of the time these days we see the fullback playing as a second five-eighth, it's not exactly a new trend! Greg Alexander shifted between the positions throughout his career with much success and in more recent times there is the great Darren Lockyer; who after much criticism early on managed to hold onto a spot in the Australian team in the position for the rest of his career. There's a couple of guys in the NRL who I think could make a real go of this move, firstly Lachlan Coote from Penrith could be the answer to their issues in the halves. He is a skilful and creative player with a lot of flair that really suits the team, if he can bulk up to cope with the defensive work in the front line he has the game to succeed. Another player who I see with a future in the 6 or 7 is Nathan Gardner from the Sharks, while he is a fine fullback I see him being used as a five-eighth mainly in the future with Wade Graham moving to lock. Gardner is fast and is the main attacking weapon for Cronulla so it only makes sense for him to get his hands on the ball more often.

Outside Backs Turned Fullback
Many wingers and centres in the past have made the transition to fullback with great success, others not so. We saw Blake Ferguson have a crack for the Raiders this year in the absence of Josh Dugan but he just wasn't the same player. One player who has excelled in the role in his few outings there is Michael Gordon. With my proposed move of Lachlan Coote to the halves; Gordon is a readymade replacement for the number one jersey. To me this actually strengthens both positions for Penrith and potentially both guys are future rep players in these roles. One from left field that many may not agree with is Josh Morris, the Bulldogs flyer has had a season to forget in 2011 and a stint at fullback may just be what he needs to re-ignite his career. Like many centres of today he thrives with room to move and early ball; both of which he has been starved of in recent times. With Ben Barba seemingly looking like the long term option for the job at Belmore it's unlikely he'd get a go there but I see Morris having a Brett Stewart sort of role if he were to get a chance, running around the centre of the field off the forwards would be something he'd enjoy.

Halves to Hookers
Hooker has become such a specialist position many halves have become best qualified for it with the astute passing and kicking required. Michael Ennis was a former half and now is the Origin hooker; one guy I see who could do a good job and fill a major hole for his team is Josh McCrone. He's just not quite up to running and NRL team but does have the skills required to make a good number nine, with the Raiders struggling in this area it makes sense for him to have a crack there. Finally another player who could make the switch is Daniel Mortimer. Out of favour in his preferred position a switch to hooker where he just needs to concentrate on kicking, tacking, running and passing. No need to be in charge of a team when he clearly isn't suited to that, Mortimer would be an asset to the Eels moving forward where he could use his speed and skills to take some pressure off the struggling halves.
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gUt

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Picture This

Rugby league is blessed with fans that love and follow the game itself. NRL fans will happily watch just about any NRL game whether their team is playing or not. A quick glance at the weekly television ratings backs this assertion up.

It’s a double edged sword though because instead of trekking off to the ground to watch their own team go around, a fan with the means might choose to stay home on a Saturday to watch all the games in the comfort of his own armchair, happily sipping on her own wine and not having to queue for a toilet break.

What’s the one thing all rugby league fans hate to see, but see all too often? A visual clue:

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If you answered “Roosters fans”, you are partially correct. However I humbly draw your attention to the hundreds of empty seats. A zoom-out of this picture would not improve it. Every week we see matches at the SFS and/or the Olympic Stadium where no matter how absorbing the game may be, those empty seats express more than the loudest, most passionate fan ever could. It’s a distraction, too often it’s a talking point and it’s an embarrassing look for the game. Why is it that 15,000 packed into a rusting suburban ground always creates a better atmosphere than 30,000 at the SFS?

This article could be about ways to entice fans to fill those empty seats with the toned, supple buttocks of the typical NRL fan. I could beat my chest about ticket, food and drinks prices; I could roast the old chestnut about improving crowd safety and in a desperate attempt to mention chests one more time I could soberly discuss cheerleaders performing topless. Instead I will open a chest of ideas, previously secured with a padlock of not having thought about this before.

Professional rugby league is staking its future on an upgraded television (along with other media) deal. Even the code’s critics acknowledge it’s a superb television product. It’s time to embrace this fact of the evolution of the sport we love and forget chasing the fans that prefer to cheer at their television screen, which evidently is pretty much all of them. It’s time to adapt and thrive. It’s time for a studio stadium – a STUDIUM. Join me on a quick jaunt into the future.

News Limited has constructed the world’s first dedicated indoor football arena-come-television studio: Fox Studium. Clubs are eager to take their home games to this neutral venue because of the generous compensation that Fox Sports offers them. These clubs’ members are notified ahead of time and only the first 10,000-20,000 fans are able to buy a ticket to this match. The many microphones placed strategically around the fan zones pick up as intense a noise as possible.

It’s easy to see the playing surface is in perfect order. During the week, sun lamps blaze down upon the green top while pop-up sprinklers provide what all good sprinklers should provide. Free from the damage caused by too much heat/cold/water, Fox Studium is renowned as the surest playing surface underfoot of any ground.

This venue is built with one ideal in mind: to bring to the screens of NRL fans the best possible vision of the game. A hundred cameras hang from the ceiling, or slide along rails, or motor along suspended wires, or hover with miniature blimps, or are operated in the traditional way. These cameras have dedicated jobs; some are programmed to track and follow the ball with a predetermined zoom setting. Others provide wide shots from every conceivable point around the Studium. Others are free to actually move and provide dynamic action shots never before attempted by any sport in the world. Infrared cameras literally bring us the heat of the battle, miniature cameras sewn into the headgear of players takes us into the fray.

These cameras provide a feed to a crew of 10 directors who select what they think is the best available shot of the action. These shots are then provided to an over-director who decides what to broadcast. However, the sophisticated viewer at home is free to choose any of the 10 shots coming to the over-director instead.

With the atmosphere of a packed suburban ground and the technological capability of a modern submarine, Fox Studium quickly becomes famous the world over for providing what is simply the best televised sporting product available.

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Azkatro

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Azkatro for the Panthers.

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Silly (a.k.a., A Detailed Analysis Of The Events From The Manly vs. Melbourne Match From Friday 27 August, 2011)

Every rugby league player is silly. They all get paid millions of dollars a week and they just all do this crazy silly stuff all the time.

What on EARTH am I talking about? Am I asking myself that question? Or are you, the reader, asking me? And if you are the one asking me this question, how do I know you’re asking it?

I came to this irrefutable realisation on Friday night while sitting in my perfectly normal, sane home environment watching an otherwise perfectly normal, sane game of rugby league football.

First of all, Manly put up a really great, normal everyday-looking attacking bomb up to David “Wolf Man” Williamses’s wing. But then, instead of it being the usual everday kind of “hey guys, I’ll jump up and instead of trying to catch the ball, I’ll hit it back to one of you, because deep down I have a morbid fear of responsibility and if I actually caught it I’d be too scared to know what to do” situation, some really silly stuff happened and David “Wolf Man” Williams got hurt really badly. What happened was, he hit his head into somebody else’s back, and it bent his head back and injured his neck. Now that’s not silly, that’s bloody serious.

What is silly is that Billy “Whatisname” Slater softly cradled David “Wolf Man” Williamses’s neck like a mother would cradle her newborn baby. Billy, what are you THINKING man!? Have you forgotten that you are the angry Billy “Whatisname” Slater? The same one who dives in knee first at players who are attempting to score a try ALL the TIME? The SAME one who got suspended for 65 years back in the 40’s for kicking John Skandalis in the face? Billy? BILLY!? You have an image to uphold! SILLY BILLY!

So anyway, as I was sat uncomfortably on my now slightly sillier home environment trying to process what was happening, something really silly started to happen.

All these players got into a big fight and two got sent to the sin bin for 10 minutes. Okay, now that’s not really silly. It was a big game between the top teams and they are obliged to have a bit of a slap around so everybody claps and says “yay, I love it when big strong men have a fight.”

All was good and well until Adam “Hairy” Blair ran up to Glenn “Double-N” Stewart and started another fight.

Then all these other silly guys ran over and there was another big fight. On the sideline!

I didn’t know what to think. I was very unsettled by all this silly silliness. So was Ray Warren, who didn’t really know what to say. Poor Rabs.

It was obvious the referees had to send them off. But they were already off the field and he called them back, just to send them off again. WHY? What a silly referee. What a silly moment in a silly game after a silly incident.

And how’s this, right. All I could think about at one stage was what Craig “Raig-aig-ig-g” Bellamy would say about it all. Again. No, I’m not saying I thought about it again. I’m saying that’s what Craig “Raig-aig-ig-g” Bellamy would say. “Again”. And he wouldn’t know what to say, so he’d just keep saying “again”. Like an echo. And he would create his own paradox because he would be saying the word “again” again and again.

Again, I digress.

I refused to watch any more. How dare those two teams behave so sillily in a top-of-the-table “Clash of the Titans”, a game between teams who were not actually the Gold Coast “We Were Too Short Sighted To Realise That Marketing People Could No Longer Use The Phrase ‘Clash Of The Titans’ When We Named Our Team” Titans. Yes, I said sillily.

Rugby league used to be silly like that all the time, but they’d cleaned it up. Who are they? I don’t know, but they made it all less silly and much more predictable, and nice, and sane. This bloody rampant display of silliness has really affected me. I mean, just look at the way I’m writing this article. It has to be the silliest lot of silliness you’ve ever read.

And it’s made me so silly that it doesn’t even have a point to it.

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LeagueNut

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Situation vacant

How many of you out there have a job you’re truly passionate about?

I don’t remember getting a lot of career advice in my formative years, but I do remember someone along the way telling me that if you can find a job where you’re doing something you truly love, you’re the luckiest man in the world.

Before we carry on, let me tell you about Geoff. His lifelong dream has been to bake pies. He lurrrves pies, probably more than is acceptable for your average man. Geoff is about to be interviewed for a senior bakers job at “Big Pie Corporation Limited” – let’s listen in:

“So what experience can you bring to the job?”

“Well as you can see from my CV I’ve got several baking qualifications, I’ve been baking pies for 10 years, I’ve won several pie-making awards for my new and innovative flavours, and I’ve received special commendations from the Mayor for my contributions to the local community.”

“I see – but have you ever actually been in a pie?”

“Pardon?”

“You know, have you ever been inside a pie? Part of the ingredients, covered in pastry, that sort of thing?”

“Of course not!”

“Then you’re obviously not qualified for this position. Next!”

Sounds ridiculous, right?

There’s certainly a lot to be said for experience in a job. These days it’s pretty much a pre-requisite for anything that pays more than minimum wage. But surely there has to be a limit on just how much experience you need to be considered “qualified” for the job.

And that leads me to my point – why is NRL first grade experience almost mandatory for most of the key non-playing jobs in and around our great game?

Take a look at the coaches to start with – current and recent coaches have almost always been former first-grade players with the odd exception here and there. Does this mean that former players automatically make better coaches, or are most clubs just too damn scared to try someone different for fear of public ridicule and humiliation?

Trawl through the staff roster at most NRL clubs and you’ll see former players littered throughout the place – trainers, assistant or junior coaches, community workers, and all sorts of other roles that you sometimes have to force yourself to say with a straight face. Personally I’m all for more honesty in job titles, so how about instead of “community liaison officers” we call them “gophers being paid to do sweet f**k-all as a post-career salary cap dodge”?

Anyway that’s getting off the point. How about we look at the media now? You could argue there’s a more balanced split in the media with both ex-players and nerdy journos being in almost equal supply. Television roles are also pretty evenly split, although ex-players will have a natural advantage in the game broadcasts thanks to the credibility they bring along – although some ex-players seem to be losing their credibility by the week (*cough* Freddy *cough*).

The big difference with media roles is that non-players will all have to face that one key question somewhere in their media careers – “so how many games did you play then?”

What difference does it really make? Why is previous NRL experience considered compulsory before you can have any of your opinions about Rugby League taken seriously?

As soon as a non-ex-player starts saying anything remotely confrontational or at odds with the “popular opinion” of the day, suddenly they’ll be turned on with venom and asked to qualify their opinion by listing how many first grade games or Origin matches they’ve played.

Why does it matter? Can my opinion simply be disregarded because I haven’t laced on my boots in the top grade?

Although we’re regularly told that fans are the most important part of any club, as soon as a fan crosses the line into delivering their opinion to the general public, all of a sudden they’re prime targets for vitriolic abuse because they “haven’t laced on a boot in their lives”.

What is it that makes ex-players so toxic towards their non-playing peers?

Actually if you think about it long enough it all starts making sense – if the ex-players can make it as uncomfortable as possible for non-players to fill these roles, there’ll be more jobs available for their mates who hang up their boots with no career path in front of them.

I guess the system works.


Seven hundred and thirty six words precisely. GO THE PANTHERS!!
 

jamesgould

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For the Ninjas:

The Mystery Man


How will history judge Rick Stone’s two years in charge of the Newcastle Knights between 2010 and 2011? It’s a tough question to answer. A mystery, if you will. Amongst the Knights fanbase, you will find those that stick up for him, and those that cannot wait to see the back of the man.


The circumstances surrounding his coaching have never been anything less than dramatic. He took over in late 2009, with the side in a form slump under departed coach Brian Smith. He then had two leading players being charged with drug dealing shortly before the commencement of the 2010 season, both unexpectedly missing the year. In 2011, just when things looked likely to settle down, there was a club buyout by Nathan Tinkler, and the news that Wayne Bennett would be taking over in 2012.


So ... expectations have not always been high. Look at how the expert pundits tipped the Knights to travel during this period, and you would say the side has over-achieved.


In the end of 2009, the side was not expected to recover to make the finals when Brian Smith walked out – having just been thrashed at home by eventual wooden spooners Sydney Roosters, as well as huge away losses to Manly and Parramatta. In 2010 with the off-season drugs furore, the Knights were tipped by most to finish dead last. In 2011 they were still not tipped by most to make the top eight – and many expected them to implode with players being released, and with Stone being ousted in 2012.


So results-wise, perhaps they have over-achieved.


The combination of attack and defence has been frustrating, with both rarely coming together in a satisfying combination. In 2010 the Knights more or less maintained their attacking prowess from the previous season, but their defence was woeful – conceding the highest points against since their second to last placing in 2007. In 2011 the defence improved markedly – their best since 1998 (unless they concede 60 points in the final game), but attack completely dropped off. At one stage Newcastle only scored over 20 points in two out of 16 matches.


Player development has been hit and miss as well. Players like Aquila Uate have blossomed under Stone – previously struggling to cement a first grade spot under Brian Smith. You can add Keith Lulia, Joel Edwards and Ryan Stig as young players who have developed nicely. On the other hand, some of the more experienced players have gone backwards. Jarrod Mullen’s game has completely plateaued. In fact, he has arguably gone backwards. His move to halfback this season has been a total failure, with his ability to control a game almost non-existent.


Without doubt a big criticism of Stone’s tenure would be his reluctance to keep the team stable. The “spine” of the team is rarely together for more than a few rounds at a time. This season, Kurt Gidley has played seven games at fullback, seven games at five eighth and two games at halfback. This has partially been because of injuries, but Stone has often repositioned players to the detriment of both positions.


The reason for those changes – injuries – has been another factor to consider in Stone’s favour. This year the Knights have used among the most players in the NRL. To still be in the hunt for a finals spot with that sort of turnover is a credit. Other sides such as Sydney Roosters and Gold Coast have crumbled under similar injury tolls.


Aside from injuries, he’s had players released in 2011, which has increased the strain on the squad. It must have been gutwrenching for Stone to see his big off-season recruit Beau Henry – billed as the answer to the Knights halves problems – unceremoniously released midseason.


I doubt there will be many Knights fans crying about the departure of Rick Stone, but I am certain that there will be plenty ready to personally see him out the door. It’s a shame. He has his faults, as do most rookie coaches, but despite not being his biggest fan, I do have to admit that he has operated under the toughest circumstances imaginable.


If the Knights can make the finals in 2011, I will begrudgingly admit that his tenure has been a success. It’s not often that so much rides on one game, but in the Newcastle vs Souths clash on Friday night, along with a finals berth, Rick Stone’s coaching reputation is on the line.


Good luck to the Mystery Man!
 
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Didgi

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Didgi runs on for his injured captain, who has been 5-on-1-ed by some dastardly Sea Eagles ;-)

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Eligibility, a farce at the best of times


International Rugby League is quickly becoming a laughing stock. The current selection eligibility rules governing international rugby league must be reconsidered, reformed and reprioritised to allow the international scene to expand to its full potential. These are the ridiculous rules that allowed Jarryd Hayne to represent Fiji and Australia and Akuila Uate to ditch Fiji for larger paydays with NSW, largely because of the overwhelming influence of the ‘big three’ – Australia, New Zealand and England.

At a time where we welcome the quickening expansion of ‘The Great Game’ outside of its natural homelands, it is a disgrace that governing bodies continue to allow players to switch from country to country – yet not as big a disgrace as their reasons for doing so.

When the Rugby League International Federation (RLIF) was established in 1998, its purpose was to “foster, develop, extend, govern and administer the game of Rugby League throughout the world.” Whilst the game has certainly extended and developed, whether the Federation is doing right by the game by continuing to allow such country-hopping is source of much debate.

No-one can attack Uate for the reasons behind his switch: growing up uneducated in a poor Fijian village, the destructive winger has a family, both in Australia and his homeland, to support. The simple fact is, playing for New South Wales and Australia brings a far greater payday than representing Fiji, as he did at the 2008 World Cup.

That financial pressure is the cause of the Fijian game losing a true superstar reflects extremely poorly on the international game, and stems directly from a lack of competitiveness, meaningful competition and funding outside of the big three – problems that would, funnily enough, resolve themselves simultaneously should its stars choose to stick with Fiji, increasing competitiveness, in turn leading to more matches in bigger tournaments and larger paydays.

Picture this: a Fijian side containing Australia-eligible superstars such as Hayne and Uate, Lote Tuqiri and Petero Civoniceva, consistent first-graders Ashton Sims, Wes Naiqama and Sisa Waqa, as well as young prospects including Tariq Sims, Jacob Loko and Jayson Bukuya. Such a squad would become a force a thousand times more competitive on the international scene than the rag-tag bunch of fringe and reserve players that took Fiji to the World Cup semis in 2008.

The sad thing is, Fiji is not the only place where such switching and talent-robbing is evident. Samoa, Tonga, Scotland and Wales are all other examples, with Scotland and Wales oft falling victim to the greater draw of playing for the larger English team after the death of ‘Great Britain’ as a combined side. Scotland look to be losing their star half, five-eighth Danny Brough, to England, with the Huddersfield star considered by many to be chosen by England for the upcoming Four Nations tournament featuring England, Australia, New Zealand and Wales.

The impact of these grey areas have even spread to within the three, most notably the cases with Castleford-born Jack Reed and English-heritage Chris Heighington so far uncapped by state – Queensland and NSW respectively – or country.

If international competitiveness is to be expanded, the RLIF must offer incentives to young superstars such as Uate and Hayne to continue to represent their homelands, rather than switching for increased opportunities in other countries. In the case of smaller nations, foreign-based players form the majority of their squads, particularly for high-profile tournaments such as World Cup Qualifiers. These marquee players cannot be allowed to switch willy-nilly from country to country, regardless of hypothetical eligibility or World Cup deadlines.

Further, the RLIF must encourage players to become the face of the game in their ‘home’ country, encouraging junior leagues and working to offer an alternative to soccer leagues throughout the world. Serbia, for instance, have growing junior and senior leagues and have played a number of internationals, at full, under-age and nines levels, and would hugely benefit from the assistance of an England squad member in Sefan Ratchford. The RLIF and the Rugby League European Federation (RLEF) should push harder for player assistance in growing competitions – as is oft argued, seeing ‘one of their own’ on the big stage is an incredible catalyst for growth of a sport in a country or region.

Developing league nations will not prosper until this shambles is fixed, international rugby league will not expand until this shambles is fixed, and Fiji’s rag-tag bunch will never improve until this shambles is fixed.

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Winning the Premiership is not about being the best team; it's about winning the right games.

The most important game to win in order to become the NRL Premiers is of course the Grand Final. In the McIntyre system, in order to win the Grand Final it is essential to win a Preliminary Final and at least one other Finals match. On its own, winning games has little to do with the actual quality of a side and it is not a necessary factor for winning. It is however a sufficient condition, because a side can win on the back of being too good for their opposition. When it comes to winning a Premiership, being the best appears to be a sufficient but not necessary. The only condition we can be sure is both necessary and sufficient for winning a premiership is winning a Grand Final.

To win the Premiership, a side must win three Finals games. The premiership is not just a few games though; teams must earn the privilege to be playing in September. A team earns said privilege by finishing in the top 8 after 26 rounds of competition. There are advantages with finishing in higher positions, but anyone can win. Eels in 2009 proved this, unprecedentedly coming from 8th position at the start of the finals series to contest the Grand Final.

The 2009 Eels were able to make the final because of an incredible run into the finals. Parramatta came from 14th position as late as round 18 to contest the final just through winning the right games. They were enabled to do so because of their run into the finals. Perhaps the most helpful aspect of the run was a clash with competition leaders St. George Illawarra in Round 26. This clash although won by the Dragons is what helped Parramatta fight their way to the right match.

It was a win which the Dragons had to have against a red hot team in a late season surge sending a 37 point message. The red and whites were minor premiership certainties from several weeks out who with help from the draw choked their way into the finals series. What should have been a morale boosting victory against a red hot team in round 26 was what ensured their demise. With a superb point differential, the win ensured Dragons would finish first and that Parramatta would finish 8th to therefore cause a rematch between the sides the following weekend where the Eels sent them to the second week of the finals with their tails between their legs. It was the draw which helped them choke their way into the finals series and the draw which helped them choke their way out.

The 2011 run has been somewhat kinder to the Dragons; it’s not helping them climb up the ladder, but is helping guarantee their place in the finals. What does help the Dragons is having played Melbourne the current competition leaders to offer the chance to prove to themselves that they are still in contention.

So long as there are 8 teams in the finals, there are 8 contenders. The 8th place playoff coming up makes the most likely scenario that that battle will determine who gets beaten by Melbourne the following weekend. I think the Tigers are well placed with their run home allowing them to get into a good rhythm at the right time. Manly and Brisbane I rate pretty closely, they have both had tough encounters with Melbourne but coasted along through much of the rest of their run. You could back either and I am backing Manly to contest the Grand Final but especially after last round I don’t see them winning it. Warriors are a bit of a wild card in the mix, on their day they could beat anyone but as their run home has underlined, they can be just as bad as they are good.

This leaves Melbourne; their run home seems to place them in best stead for the finals. It hasn’t been easy, playing most of their finals competition in the run to September, but it does serve for optimal preparation for Melbourne who are the side I am backing to win the premiership. I am backing Manly to be their opposition, but they may be hurt by their win over Melbourne and the fallout from on field indiscretions.
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The Curious Case of Joel Thompson

The year was 2008, and a young Canberra rugby league player was beginning to make a name for himself. In the first year of the Toyota Cup Joel Thompson stamped his name on the footballing scene, a powerful second rower with ball playing skills to envy. From early in that first season it was clear he was destined to play first grade for the Raiders. In Round 26 of 2008 Thompson made his first grade debut. ‘JT’, as he is known by Raiders fans, went on to play nine games in 2009. Being used primarily as a second rower off the bench he only further enhanced his reputation with a series of strong displays. Then somewhere in the 2009/2010 summer everything changed – Joel Thompson was to become a centre.

Things started well for JT – six tries from his first eight games in the new position. The Raiders struggled to start 2010, recording a 5-10 record when JT went down with injury. Thompson missed the remainder of the season, watching as the Raiders reeled off eight wins and only one loss for the remainder of the season. Coincidence one would think. That was until 2011 – where upon JT’s return the Raiders have reverted to their poor form.

Let’s look at the stats. With Joel Thompson starting at centre over the last two years the Raiders are a dismal 11-26, good for a 30.6% winning mark. Now, the Raiders have been far from powerhouses over this same period I’ll admit – but how can you explain a 9-4 record when Thompson hasn’t played? That’s good for 69.2% - a mere swing of almost 39%! So is there any sense to this trend, or is it all just a matter of circumstance? Add to this the fact the Raiders point scoring average jumped over 10 points following the injury in 2010 (from 15.67 to 26) and you can begin to appreciate that massive turnaround in the sides performance.

When JT went down injured in 2010 his outside man hadn’t had much success. Daniel Vidot had crossed for six tries in fourteen matches. Not a terrible rate, but a fair way behind the top wingers in the game. With JT down Vidot managed ten tries in the remaining eleven games. Playing outside a veteran in Adam Mogg - who was a master of the draw and pass – Vidot and the Raiders right side attack came alive. Where Thompson had become obsessed with tucking the ball under his arm and trying to smash his way over from close range, Mogg was willing to hold the ball out in front and make the defence decide what he was going to do. It was beautiful to watch from a Raiders fan point of view – and the new pressure on the opponents left hand defence opened up opportunities elsewhere.

Now it’s no secret that Thompson at centre suits the game plan coach David Furner has tried to instil in the Raiders. By running Thompson in the centres he essentially has an extra second rower in the side. Furner has referred to ‘the grind’ being his game plan numerous times in 2011. This game plan seems to revolve around forwards smashing the ball up in a one out fashion, thus minimising errors and always getting to the sixth tackle. It has been the most frustrating season in the Raiders history with the much vaunted forward pack being continually smashed into submission over 2011. What the fans want to see is a bit of flair on the fringes – not yet another second rower smashing the ball around, especially when it comes with a winning percentage of 30%.

So is Joel Thompson a season killer, or merely a victim of circumstance? Is this article proof that statistics can prove anything? After all, JT did make the Country Origin team as a centre this year. Personally I believe there is a fair correlation between these two factors. While he has the physicality of a top line centre, he lacks the touch of class that differentiates a centre from a second rower. The ability to set up an outside man is the most vital skill in a modern day centre – and JT has yet to show any promise in this department. I’m not criticising JT’s attitude at all – he gives it 100% every week. However, for the good of the Raiders I hope to see him causing havoc from the second row next season.

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joshie

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yeah buddy 5-5!

congrats on the Minor Preimership Panthers, hopefully we will see you next week ;)

great hustle ninjas, finals here we come
 

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Ok lads, I'll let these hot little things cool for 24 hours and I'll get you some marks by tomorrow some time.

Well done on the 5v5 both teams also.
 
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