What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

2011 ROUND 9: Ninjas v Dragons

Willow

Assistant Moderator
Messages
108,265
Chuck Norris Texas Death Ninjas -V- St George Dragons


jersey_ninjas_1.gif
-V-
jersey_dragons_1a.gif

Game Thread:

* This is a game thread only. Only game posts can be made here - team lists, substitutions, and articles.
* Any other posts may result in loss of points and is at the discretion of the referee.
* Only original articles, not used in previous games, will be marked by referees.

Naming Teams:
* 5 -V- 5 (+ 2 reserves for the visiting team, + 3 reserves for the home team)
* No 'TBA' or changing players named
* Captains must stick with original teams named

Rules: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/rules.php
Official Word Counter: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/wordcount.php

Kick Off: Sunday 7th August 2011 (2100AEST)
Full Time: Wednesday 17th August 2011 (2100AEST)
Referee: Willow
Venue: Reliant Stadium
ReliantStadium_nightshot.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:

edabomb

First Grade
Messages
7,103
Ninjas name their team for their final home game of the regular season.

Starting
edabomb (c)
joshie
gUt
Hallatia
CobyDelaney

Bench
Freddo
paulquinn49 (c)
jamesgould
 

joshie

Live Update Team
Messages
3,115
Darren Lockyer. This man has played one of the greatest careers in our beloved game and has also played the most National Rugby League games in history along with the most State of Origins, most international games for Australia, once the Broncos play their first finals match, bar injury, he will be the most capped finals player and he lead Queensland to six State of Origin titles in a 17 year career. Although it will end, we can’t help but reflect, but that’s for another time. This article is about to digress into a whole new world of information. I have paid my respects to the great Darren Lockyer; now let’s discuss the point of this article.

I will not fully divert your attentions away from
Mister Lockyer, no, it somewhat revolves around him. Over a 17 year career he has managed to rack up 441 games, with the number to rise through to the conclusion of the 2011 season. On 11 occasions he has managed to play 20 plus games in one season– something no one has ever done before. But the cracks of this streak is starting to show, the champion five eighth has slowed down quite a bit over the past few years and he is not looking like the old Lockyer, but what can you expect. This sport is a high impact contact sport, Americans have been known to play wearing gridiron gear, and it is not healthy for the body. A study was done, and due to the source I cannot guarantee its reliability, but Rugby League Players shorten their lives by up to 15 years if they play for over 12 years in the top grade. That is an alarming thing to think about and these next few paragraphs will prove Rugby League is the toughest of all.

Our close cousins, the world of Rugby Union, although their domestic competition is not as intense or long as ours, their international season is relatively long and tough. Using stats from the Super Rugby competition based out of Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, Richie Mccaw, who is the current New Zealand All Blacks captain, is the most capped Super Rugby player in history. Over a period of 13 seasons, Mccaw has brought up 144 matches as well as an incredible 97 international matches, a far cry from Lockyer’s 441. Although Mccaw is still playing, it is clear that he may never play as many matches over the same period of time, but statistically could this mean that Union is not as intense as League? I believe so.
Moving on to our enemies, the Australian Football League, formerly known as the Victorian Football League - well their all-time most capped player record is impressive. Michel Tuck played 426 AFL/VFL matches over a 20 year period, showing that the durability in the sport may be a lot higher, but the contact of the game may not be as intense. I would class this game as a mid-impact contact sport, with a LOT of fitness.

To further prove my point, in a non-contact sport, the National Basketball Association in America takes the cake. Robert Parish played 1611 NBA games in the top grade over 21 seasons; an unbelievable stat. due to basketball being a non-contact sport; the human body can withstand an excess amount of running, but obviously not tackles. They play a lot more games than most sports in the world, and defiantly in Australia, with up to 82 matches played just in the Home and Away draw, before playing play offs series’ with a 7-game playoff to ensue. It’s a very busy sport and this is how Robert Parish racked up the incredible number of appearances.

So, with Rugby League and the impact tackling and big hits, to basketball with no contact dunking superstars, it is clear it does not matter on conditioning as much in the quest to play as many games as possible. It comes down to the sport and how tough it is, and with Rugby League scoring so low, I believe we truly are the toughest and greatest game of all.
 

Drew-Sta

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
24,567
No idea where the Saints are. I'm not meant to be captaining this week as I'm in Tonga, although I am playing. Here's the team, and I'll send some PM's...

Run On:
1. Drew-Sta
2. DragonPunk
3. muzby
4. Breathingfire
5. Jason Maher

Reserves:

6. Cheesie-the-Pirate (vc)
7. _Johnsy (vc)

I won't be avalable to substitute, so if either of the reserves need to jump in, they're VC to allow them substitution rights.
 

TooheysNew

Coach
Messages
1,050
CobyDelaney for the Ninjas
Diverfisication
To any Rugby League fan, we think it’s obvious why we love our sport. Rugby League is a game of tactics, skill, aggression and physical prowess. It is 80 minutes of pure competition, with two teams of men giving it their all in search of ultimate victory. This, for many, is a good enough reason to fall in love with the sport. However, the true beauty of Rugby League is that appeals to people on a number of levels – even to people you wouldn’t expect.

While enjoying a frosty schooner of inspiration at the pub last Saturday night, my curiosity was piqued by the diversification (or diverfisication, as I dubbed it that night) of the groups of fellow patrons engaged in the game. Sure, there was the usual suspects – young, invincible men, proclaiming they could tackle harder than the players on television; middle aged men escaping their wives, and loudly clinging to the notion that that they used to make harder tackles than the players on television; and old men, sitting in groups hunched over the table, sipping warm beer and making profound statements about “back in our day”.

However what interested me the most were the other groups. The people that you would not normally expect to love our great game, and yet who were just as passionate, and just as knowledgeable as anyone else.

For example, huddled in a corner of the bar, far away from any attempts to socialise, sat a group of what seemed to be uni students. While they had stopped short of pocket protectors and calculator-watches, there was a definite air of intelligence and, well, nerdiness about them. I shuffled my chair a little closer, attempting to listen in to their conversations, and was amazed at what I heard.

“Yes, but the overall VO2max of a Rugby League centre is a lot higher than a union centre. All they do is stand around and wait for those players with a higher subcutaneous fat level to ruck and maul all day”.

I leaned in a little closer – unsure of what I had heard. After a few minutes of (what I thought was inconspicuously) listening in on their conversation, I had made an amazing discovery! These… nerds, for lack of a better word, had broken the game we love down into a series of linear equations describing the angles the forwards were running, made assessments of the players’ physiology, and what’s more, actually seemed to be having a good time!

Partly because I was intrigued, and partly because the nerds had started staring at me, I moved tables, instead perching myself next to a group of middle aged women. Expecting to hear the usual comments about short shorts and big arms, I was stunned by the actuality of the conversation.

“Bash him! I’ve had periods that have hit harder than that!”

I was shocked. It seemed these women were actually drawn towards the physicality of the game, the violence, and the blood. I couldn’t understand it. Blokes being drawn to the violence, sure, it’s an intrinsic human behaviour. Think Roman Gladiators, or public hangings, or Hollywood... people just love to see mindless violence. But women?

I sat there, muddled in confusion, until a fight broke out on the field. Punch. Swing. Swing. Punch. Punch. The crowd in the pub echoed the sentiments of the crowd at the game. On their feet, cheering, calling for blood. Finally the referee managed to regain control and the pub patrons returned to their seats. I leaned in closer to the group of women and strained my ears, just in time to hear one of them say “you’re right, if I pretend it’s my husband getting smacked, it does make it more exciting!” I should have guessed. The drawcard for these women was pretending that their husbands were involved, not so they could empathise with his glory, but so that they could see ‘him’ get flogged.

Tommy Raudonikis once said "If we could guarantee a blue like that every game then we would get another 20,000 through the gate." Somehow, I don’t think Tommy was expecting that 20,000 to be mothers and wives.

So there you have it. Perhaps my findings are less interesting when I’m not filled with beer, and I’m definitely not in line for a Nobel Prize, but I believe my general theory is sound. Rugby League is the best game on earth, because it appeals to people on so many different levels.
 
Last edited:

_Johnsy

Referee
Messages
27,335
Johnsy posting for the mighty Dragons. 750 words via the official F7's word counter. he's the only person getting off the bus & says to the media contingent swarming around him.

"I thought everyone else was organising a lift to the game."

********************************************************************

Faith​

george-michael-2.jpg

George Michael said it best, “Well you gotta have faith”.

What exactly must we have faith in? That depends on what kind of faith we are talking about.

Richard Packham (1) wrote a book, What about faith ? He believes there are three types of faith;
1) Necessary Faith – unavoidable, or that which is supported by evidence which is generally considered indisputable by most reasonable people.
2) Harmless Faith – faith in things that cannot be proven or disproven.
3) Dangerous Faith – faith held in spite of abundant evidence to the contrary.

To me, necessary faith is all we really have, that the sun will rise, the oven will heat the food. Harmless faith can be a good thing, it makes people want to be better, aspire to be more than they already are. I liken dangerous faith to blind faith, I have never had it, or had a need for it before.

Let’s take a look at my beloved St. George Illawarra Dragons.
Minor Premiers 2010, Premiers 2010, World Club Challenge Winners, what a year. Looking at 2010 retrospectively they rarely got out of 3rd gear in the finals series.

Semi Final Week 1 - 10 September 2010.
St. George Illawarra 28 – Manly 0
Manly enjoyed a better completion rate of 74% compared to 69%, Manly made less errors 10 to the Dragon’s 15. Manly could not even muster a solitary point.

Semi Final Week 3 – 25 September 2010
St. George Illawarra Dragons 13 – West Tigers 12
At half time the Tigers held the lead 12-6. The Dragons committed twice as many errors as the Tigers did in the first 40 minutes. In the second 40 minute period the Tigers had 20 sets compared to the Dragons 19.
The Tigers, who possessed one of the most feared attacking units in the NRL were unable to score a point in the second 40 minute period.

Grand Final – October 2 2010
St. George Illawarra 32 – Roosters 8
At half time the Dragons had made 10 errors to three, Had completed only 58% of their sets compared to the Roosters impressive 89%. Not surprisingly the Roosters were up, but only by two points 8-6. The second half had some amazing statistics, the most impressive one being that the Dragons defensive brick wall kept their opponents scoreless again. Not one opponent had scored against the dragons in the last 40 minutes of any final game.

Each and every Dragons fan had seen, possibly the most controlled ruthless modern day NRL side dismantle each and every contender when it had mattered most. I can assure you this is a trait that I cannot ever remember with a Dragons team in my lifetime.

Lets move forward almost twelve months and the picture is not so rosy. To be brutally honest it is a black montage with dark grey highlights. It’s a story that does not make for enjoyable reading for those who don the big red V.

2011
The Dragons have not won a game in the previous 4 weeks. Over this period they have made more errors than each side they have played. In fact they have won only two games since round 12. The last time they won a game was on the 29th May 2011. That is two wins in almost three months of football.

Lets compare the Dragons second half defense over last four weeks of football to their last four weeks of 2010.

Average points conceded in second half over last four matches in 2010
(Manly 0, Tigers 0, Roosters 0, Wigan 0) Average = 0
Average points conceded in second half over last four matches in 2011
(Canberra 18, Souths 28, Tigers 14, Roosters 10) Average = 17.5

To an outsider looking in, it appears the dragons are done and dusted for 2011. I disagree, why ?

A great, effective football side does not suddenly become an average ineffective one. A great defensive unit with a better attitude does not suddenly forget how to defend. I believe they’ll come back and make a run at this years Premiership. They’ll beat Melbourne by 14 points this Friday night.

I can hear what you are thinking,

"This bloke is crazy, he's ignored all the facts and evidence. Any moron can see if you put the facts and evidence together. They're done this year, they'll do nothing".

Well it seems for the first time, much to my surprise, against my better judgement. I am the now the proud holder of a large chunk of blind faith.
**********************************************************************************

References
(1) - http://home.teleport.com/~packham/
Stats courtesy of - http://www.nrlstats.com/
 
Last edited:

muzby

Village Idiot
Staff member
Messages
45,711
muzby for the dragons...

jersey_dragons_1a.gif


after last games walkover, he's keen for a huge match against the ninjas..

750 words title to end (includes forum code for the picture..)


complete-idiots-guide.jpg

……Being a Rugby League Writer


So, you think that any idiot can be a rugby league writer for the tabloid media?

Well, that’s half true. You can’t be too smart, but you must be able to get yourself a story. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, accountability is not a KPI for the average league journalist.

By following these 10 steps, you will be able to develop your own career as the next big name in the Sydney media.

1. Big 5. To be a successful rugby league journalist, you must always stick to the “Big 5” - five topics which are always guaranteed to sell papers.
  • <Insert Team Here> are the juggernaught who will be this years premiers (generally best written about a team who is sitting 10th, and has just won 3 games in a row).
  • Player “X” is the next star for Queensland / NSW / Australia and must be picked in the rep side. (Don’t worry how many first grade games they have played. Ideally the fewer the better).
  • Look at the top try scorers from the last 5 rounds and write how player “Y” is the best player in the game, everything they touch turns to gold.
  • Pick one of the bottom 4 teams and write about how their coach is under pressure and needs to perform or faces the sack (say that your source is an anonymous board member).
  • Premiers under pressure - the previous years premiers are fair game for any article. If they’ve lost two in a row, dig out obscure facts how this is the start of their slide. If they’ve lost one player, write about how winning the premiership is tearing them apart.
2. Bargaining Power. Contact player managers at least once a week to find out who they are having trouble offloading. If one of their stable is having trouble getting re-signed by their current club, for a small fee you can help them. Just write an article about said player and the number of offers he is fielding from rival clubs. If the player is useless and no-one will believe your article, make sure you start by using step 3 (below).

3. Mole in one. Never underestimate the power of anonymity. If you have no real news to write of, or have heard a great rumour, you can always create your own story by claiming it was leaked via ‘the mole’ or a close source of the player / coach / team in question. If needed you can always start a fake twitter account that is supposedly linked to a club or player.

4. Copy and Paste. Quite often your rival papers will get a scoop on you. Don’t feel bad about it, instead, simply copy and paste their story and just move a few sentences around and no-one will know the difference.

5. Paste and Copy. Don’t feel bad if your rival paper gets a scoop on you. No-one will know if you simply copy and past their story if a few sentences are moved around.

6. Cross your fingers. If you want to start the next big story, head to Kings Cross every night. Make sure you are armed with a camera (for that exclusive shot) and some money (to pay off or buy yourself some witnesses). Comb the bars and nightclubs searching for anyone who looks like an NRL player. Doesn’t matter if its them or not, but a grainy photo of someone who looks like Benji Marshall (if you squint really hard) will be enough to get you a full back page exclusive. Another good source of Cross mayhem is to hide down alleyways waiting to get a photo of an NRL player having a slash against the wall. Just make sure if you hide down the correct alleyways, or you may end up earning a bit of extra cash.

7. The Internet. If all else fails and you are stuck for ideas, simply jump online and start reading internet forums. You’ll end up with a multiple of ideas, themes and quotes to get you well on your way to your first Walkley Award. It’s simple, quick and best of all it’s free.


Follow these eight rules and you’ll have your own feature column on the back page in no time. At the very least you should be able to score yourself a celebrity tipster piece each Friday in the Daily Telegraph.

Good luck, and happy writing.

Buzz.
 

edabomb

First Grade
Messages
7,103
edabomb for the Ninjas

--------------------------------------------------------

I&#8217;m With Stupid

As we find ourselves at the tail end of yet another National Rugby League season it&#8217;s once again time to vent our frustrations. For Canberra Raiders fans this has become a bi-yearly occurrence. The Raiders have made the finals every second year since 2004, a cycle that has ensured they remain competitive while never managing to become anything more than Finals cannon fodder.

I should start with the end of 2010. The Raiders went on a remarkable run - rattling off eight wins from their final nine matches. Rugby league spirit in the Canberra community was at its highest ebb since 2003. The Raiders progressed from the first week of the Finals, defeating a staggering Panthers squad. A record crowd was in attendance for their week two home final against the Tigers. The Raiders fell behind early, before mounting a stirring comeback that ended in despair - a Terry Campese ACL injury and a missed Jarrod Croker penalty ensured an off-season of &#8216;what ifs?&#8217;

As we entered 2011 hopes were high. Campese was out for the first twelve or thirteen weeks, but with signing of former Dally M winner Matt Orford the fan base was optimistic that we could tread water with a 50% record until that point. Expectations soared as the Raiders put the Sharks to the sword in Round One - thrashing them 40-12. Were the Raiders a resurrected rugby league powerhouse?

Eight rounds later the Raiders record sat at 1-8. Eight game losing streaks are a rarity for sides favoured by many to be heading for the top four. There had been injuries, but there&#8217;d also been injuries for fifteen other sides. The coach couldn&#8217;t make any sense of it, preferring to defer blame on to the fact he hadn&#8217;t had a fit squad all season, and the referees.

It was at this stage of the season that the Board decided to give Furner their public backing. While being interviewed on a local radio show John Mackay stated that the club was more than happy with the job David Furner was doing. His exact words were &#8220;if we had a choice between David and someone who was there to win games and nothing else, we&#8217;d have David every time" 1. But that was only just setting us up for his true gem - &#8220;He (Furner) would have to lose another thirty games." 2 The nature of these comments simply sums up the Canberra Raiders. Whether the Boards comments were an attempt at a public display of solidarity or not, they sent out all the wrong signs to the fans. How was a bloke who was coaching a professional NRL side to look they&#8217;ve never met before, let alone eight consecutive losses, garnishing such job security? The more excitable fans already had their answer - it helps when your brother is the Chief Executive.

Yes, Don Furner is the Canberra Raiders CEO. Now, Don has been very clear to make the point that the Board employs David, and he had no word on his hiring. Yet he is always keen to stick up for brother Dave. As criticism continued to be levelled towards Dave it was time for a gentle reminder about who&#8217;s in charge. Don told ABC radio that the fans criticising Dave simply &#8220;aren&#8217;t qualified to assess him" 3. So they&#8217;ll take our money for membership packs (and never send them in my case), but the minute we want to voice any criticism of the regime you need to submit a Curriculum Vitae containing your experience in rugby league administration. Admittedly in this context fan reaction had been out of line, but surely there is still a better message to send out to your fan base in tough times.

In recent weeks things have gone from bad to worse. The Raiders have played well if they get within 20 of the opposition (save for a &#8216;hoodoo&#8217; victory over the Dragons). They look like they&#8217;re trying, but are the most poorly prepared team in recent memory. At times they've resembled a Monty Python sketch.

The Raiders head to the Gold Coast in a playoff for the wooden spoon this weekend. I hope they win, but part of me also thinks that winning the spoon may be the realisation some people need. Then again - they&#8217;ll just tell us for the seven hundredth time this season that it was because of referees and injuries.

1, 2 http://goo.gl/ql263

3 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-04/interview-don-furner/2703474
--------------------------------------------------------
749 words in OWC
 
Last edited:

Jesbass

First Grade
Messages
5,654
Thanks, time keeper! Turns out the regular bloke was locked out of the ground after a run-in with security!
 

edabomb

First Grade
Messages
7,103
Good luck all. Unfortunately the Ninjas are struggling a bit for fit players ATM, hopefully we have 5 on board next round.
 

Drew-Sta

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
24,567
Good luck all. Unfortunately the Ninjas are struggling a bit for fit players ATM, hopefully we have 5 on board next round.

Don't worry mate, so are the Saints. I myself am on light duties since arriving in Tonga. Interwebz access being the major issue...
 

edabomb

First Grade
Messages
7,103
Don't worry mate, so are the Saints. I myself am on light duties since arriving in Tonga. Interwebz access being the major issue...

Well when even the Bluebags fail to get 5 in I think we can feel a little bit better ;-)
 

Willow

Assistant Moderator
Messages
108,265
whistle_2.gif
Full time scores - Round 9, 2011


Chuck Norris Texas Death Ninjas v St George Dragons
Rugby League related: 40%
Originality: 30%
Grammar, punctuation, spelling: 20%
Do I like it? 10%
Score: /100

CNTDN

joshie
Darren Lockyer
Ref Comments: A tribute to Darren Lockyer, and Rugby League, when comparing endurance with other sports. An honest piece albeit a little dry in its delivery. A writer with loads of potential and the spark will come with practice.
Words: 689
Score: 78

CobyDelaney
Diverfisication
Ref Comments: The diverse appeal of Rugby League. Nerds and mums in the same room enjoying the same game. Well written and flowed nicely.
Words: 748
Score: 88

edabomb
I&#8217;m With Stupid
Ref Comments: A nicely written article about the high and lows of supporting the Raiders. Well researched while highlighting some core issues. A few punctuation errors.
Words: 733
Score: 85

TOTAL: 251

-Vs-

ST GEORGE

_Johnsy
Faith
Ref Comments: The roller coaster ride of being a Dragons supporter, and trying to muster some faith in the low times. Well researched and started well. A few typos and formatting issues.
Words: 750
Score: 82

muzby
&#8230;&#8230;Being a Rugby League Writer
Ref Comments: Funny piece which is eerily close to the mark. This must have been written by Buzz because there were a couple of spelling errors.
Words: 739
Score: 89

TOTAL: 171

RESULT: CNTDN DEFEAT ST GEORGE 251 - 171

POTM: muzby (St George)

Well played everyone. :thumn
 
Last edited:

edabomb

First Grade
Messages
7,103
Thanks for the marking Willow :)

Well done to all playersa, hopefully both teams can get 5 in next round.
 
Top