2012 Round three :: Warriors v Ninjas

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  1. joshie

    joshie Live Update Team

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    Forum 7s - Round three - 2012

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    Match Preview: The Warriors will host the inform Ninjas this week. The Warriors have been up and down so far, but the Ninjas have been firm in what they want to accomplish. This game could provide anything and is one to watch.

    Game Thread:
    * This is a game thread only. Only game posts can be made here - team lists, substitutions, and articles.
    * Any other posts may result in loss of points and is at the discretion of the referee.
    * Only original articles, not used in previous games, will be marked by referees.

    Naming Teams:
    * 5 -V- 5 (+ 3 reserves for home sides; + 2 for away)
    * No 'TBA' or changing players named
    * Captains must stick with original teams named

    Rules: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/rules.php
    Official Word Counter: http://f7s.leagueunlimited.com/wordcount.php

    Kick Off: Monday 30th April 2012 (6:00pm AEDT)
    Full Time: Sunday 13th May 2012 (Fulltime is at midnight)
    Referee: madunit
    Venue: Mt Smart Stadium

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  2. edabomb

    edabomb First Grade

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    The Ninjas meet at the yellow seats.

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    joshie

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    Good luck all.
     
  3. Russell Crowe's Band

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    Hmm

    I am not sure whats happening with the warriors.

    anyway, I am naming myself for the warriors (i can do that yeah?) i have played in their last two games.

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    Israel Folau - Legend of the Realms of Fantasy


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    Israel Folau won his first AFL match yesterday in Canberra. 8,603 people witnessed his Greater Western Sydney Giants defeat the Gold Coast Suns.

    For the record Israel had quite a good game. 4 tackles, 11 disposals but missed his two shots at goal.

    As he strode about Manuka Oval in his new chocolate orange get up, i took a moment to reflect on what Izzy meant to Rugby League.

    Israel played four seasons in the NRL, scoring 73 try’s at club level with Melbourne and Brisbane. Israel played in two grand finals winning one. He appeared for Queensland 8 times scoring 7 trys and represented Australia 8 times crossing the line for 6 try’s.

    I have never met Israel Folau personally and until yesterday I had only seen him play live once.
    Yet me and Izzy go way back. All the way back to his debut.
    The year was 2007. I had just started work at a Government Department. A mate of mine there introduced me to a glorious new invention. Fantasy Football.
    We played in the Fox Sports Fantasy League. After I had set my team name and jersey colours up I was ready to pick a team, Keeping in mind I wouldn’t be picking any Dragons players as that would be supporting the endeavors of my most hated club.

    I spent the majority of my Salary Cap on an all star Pack. In 2007 the scoring was heavily skewed towards back rowers and players prices were fixed for the year. My first picks were statistical freaks Nathan Hindmarsh and Alan tongue. Men who made more tackles than many thought humanly possible. Greg Bird and Paul Gallen were biased Sharks picks. I went all out on Cam Smith at Hooker and Roy Asotasi was a required selection at the prop position that season. The backs were harder to chose. If you spent your money on forwards, you couldn’t afford guys like Billy Slater or Matt Bowen however Steve Bell was relatively cheap from Manly given his try scoring ability in a team that was building.

    I ended up with a reasonable squad with a missing piece. I needed a winger. I had two points left in my cap. I liked my team but to get a full contingent of 17 players playing I would need to overhaul my squad and downgrade at other positions.

    But then I saw him. Israel Folau - 2 Salary cap points. Buried deep in the Melbourne Storm Outside Backs line up. These 2 point players rarely see the field. However this unknown bloke was named to face Wests Tigers in round 1. So I picked him in the hope that he would score the odd point here or there.

    I suddenly had a larger interest in the 2007 Friday night opener. The Mysterious I Folau was on the wing. Who was this man?

    I Googled "Israel Folau" before the match.
    I was astounded.
    Born. 3 April 1989. This man was YOUNGER THAN I WAS. It was official. I wasn’t even 20 and there was a man in the NRL younger than me. My pipe dreams were officially over. This was the first man younger than me in the National Rugby League.
    After this mind bending news I was further aghast when i saw Israel on television. A six foot plus physical specimen on the wing of a team that should have won the premiership the previous October. Bellamy must like something about this kid.

    What followed was a historic season. He scored on debut and proceeded to score doubles in the next three games. After 26 rounds he had scored 21 trys. A debut season record . He was second in the top try scorer list to North Queensland’s Matt Bowen. He was also 2007 Dally M Rookie of the year and won a grand final in 2007 with the Storm.

    As fantasy players go, 2007 Israel was a gift from the heavens. 126 points from try's (6 points for a try in Fox Sports scoring) at the bargain basement price of 2 salary cap points. Having Izzy in your team allowed you to splurge on the big name backs or purchase a Jonathan Thurston or Scott Prince in the halves without completely changing your fantasy team line up. I ended up winning our league in 2007 thanks largely in part to his freakish season.

    Hopefully one day he will return to the greatest game of all.


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    references

    http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/israel-folau/summary.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Folau
    http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16931/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7715&tab=Stats
     
  4. edabomb

    edabomb First Grade

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    edabomb for the Ninjas

    The ‘New Zealand’ Warriors?

    The year was 2000. The Auckland Warriors were on the verge of financial collapse after only six seasons of operation, they were losing on the field and off it. Business tycoon Eric Watson saw an opportunity and purchased the key assets of the club, bringing the Warriors into a new professional environment that would see them go on to become one of the more successful sides of the following decade. There was one minor detail that attracted a bit of attention at the time – but has largely gone unmentioned lately. The franchise decided to change their operating name from the Auckland Warriors to the New Zealand Warriors from season 2001 onwards. The move coincided with a rapid rise in on field fortunes – with the side making the NRL Grand Final in 2002. This helped with rugby league fans New Zealand wide buying into the rebranded franchise – as it’s always easier to sell a new idea when there is some success behind it.

    At the time I thought this surely signalled a move to the Warriors doing a better job of promoting rugby league through New Zealand. Perhaps taking a couple of games to other major centres each year would endorse the name change – cities such as Christchurch and Wellington would surely get in behind any such initiative. Games did travel outside of Auckland in ensuing seasons, as the Bulldogs took several of their home games against the Warriors to Wellington, along with the Raiders on one occasion. The Tigers took three matches to Christchurch in the mid-2000s, as did the Roosters in 2010. One thing remained the same – it was always Australian teams taking their matches across the ditch in an attempt to take a bigger gate rather than the Warriors spreading the rugby league gospel throughout New Zealand.

    In 2008 the Melbourne Storm put their feelers out into the local Wellington rugby league scene. Craig Bellamy came over to look at a rugby league camp the franchise was running in Wellington, containing 120 of the top under 18 talents. Surely an initiative like this should have been investigated by the regions home side, but the Warriors seem to have a very minor interest in the sport south of Manurewa. The Melbourne Storm camp has become an annual event with players being snapped up and taken to Melbourne to grow in the Storm system. While this is great for the talented young players of Wellington it is also a sad indication of the lack of presence the Warriors hold throughout New Zealand.

    Really it all boils down to the side being renamed solely as a business decision. By renaming the side New Zealand the franchise saw an opportunity to create an identity for rugby league fans throughout the nation – while not having to actively invest a great deal in the game to maintain this interest. The brand name has become so strong now that the name Auckland Warriors is never referred to, the club has done a great job of convincing the New Zealand public that they’re representing the nation.

    Personally, as a Wellingtonian, I find myself still annoyed at the fact the New Zealand Warriors are considered my geographic home team. In the twelve seasons since the Auckland Warriors rebranded themselves they have failed to take any matches outside the Auckland region – instead relying on the odd occasion when their opposing team wishes to move their home matches to a New Zealand centre. This has also become a non-existent act in recent times with the heavy focus on club memberships in recent seasons – clubs cannot afford to move their home matches outside of Australia. I would be happy for the Warriors to continue with the New Zealand name if they actively promoted the match through the region they claim to represent – but it has become plainly obvious that the renaming only occurred as a way of attracting a sense of patriotism from regions they never care to visit. The Warriors represent New Zealand in a business sense only – they should revert back to their Auckland Warriors name so that fans in other major centres can completely get in behind bids for a second New Zealand NRL side.

    As it stands – the ‘New Zealand’ Warriors have not played a match in Wellington since 2004.


    Sources
    - Storm keen on return to captial http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/local-sport/761259
    - Melbourne Storm Recruits Look To Wellington http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/6118555/Storm-still-look-to-Wellington-for-development
    - rleague.com venue records http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/summary.html#venues

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  5. jamesgould

    jamesgould Juniors

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    For the Ninjas:

    Rebuilding

    After the Newcastle Knights loss to North Queensland on Saturday night, I heard an interesting viewpoint: “Wayne Bennett would be feeling huge pressure right now.”

    The Knights have recorded four wins and six losses from the first ten rounds of the competition. With an all new spine to their side (Boyd and Buderus being new recruits, and Mullen and Gidley new to the six and seven, respectively) and a couple of those players being out injured for several rounds, the results seem about on par. Combine that with statistically the toughest draw so far of any team this year, and the season is certainly not beyond saving.

    It is a reflection of the world we live in, these days. Instant gratification. If a side recruits some star players and a new coach, then results are expected immediately. It’s also an indication of the sensationalism we see in the media these days. If a side doesn’t have a better than 50% winning record, then they are in crisis. If you lose three in a row, then your side is almost certainly headed for a “crisis meeting” ... or worse still, facing the members at an AGM!

    Wayne Bennett mentioned in the press conference after the game that he was at the club for four years, and that was what he was basing his approach on. If he was there for a shorter timespan then he would be doing things differently.

    I wonder if you ran a strawpoll, how many Knights fans would prefer he was at the club for two years and threw everything into getting a premiership in that time, rather than try and build a culture that would sustain continual success long after he was gone. I would predict that the results of the poll would surprise, with a significant proportion wanting the immediate success (even if it was unsustainable).

    It’s the battle several NRL coaches are facing right now. Stephen Kearney is trotting out the same story, albeit with even less immediate success. The same could be said for Ivan Cleary.

    I suppose it’s inevitable with the increase in money in the code, but things are so different to the sport I began following 20 years ago. In those days it was a 16 side competition, with a top five finals series. I suppose with that higher level of qualification just to make the finals, it made it seem from the start that it was a bonus if your side made the semis.

    Newcastle missed the semis in 1993 and 1994, but panic stations weren’t hit at any stage – the side had their moments of success in both seasons, and with a strong and stable side, seemed to be building for the future. It was actually quite a shock when coach David Waite’s contract was not renewed for the 1995 season.

    Although a few players did move on, the nucleus of the squad saw very few changes over that period. Nowadays, supporters would be advocating half the team get their marching orders – and the reality probably wouldn’t be far off that.

    Craig Bellamy at the Melbourne Storm provides the template for any coach who is rebuilding a club in the modern game. Despite never really challenging in his first few years in charge, he did avoid pressure by making the top eight. By 2006 his side had hit its stride and his efforts began to really bear fruit. They’ve been nigh-on unbeatable ever since.

    Of course, that example also displays the problems on the other side of the rebuilding conundrum – build a successful side up from scratch, and your players either move on to other clubs as their market value increase, or you go down the Storm route and end up with an even bigger problem.

    But Craig Bellamy has got the culture and playing style down-pat – because despite that problem, Melbourne has been topping the tables for the best part of seven years, now.

    The real risk is that a coach attempts to make these changes, and the results and change in attitude, culture, etc never eventuate. I haven’t actually heard David Furner mention that he was attempting to do anything like that with Canberra, but that seems to be the boat they are in at the moment.

    But for coaches in their first and second year in charge, I think the pressure valve needs to be off. Give them a chance to implement their plans ... and remember, in most cases things can’t get much worse!

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  6. Coby

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  7. joshie

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    Joshie gets the ball in the 11th Hour rush!

     
  8. joshie

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    That is full time.
     
  9. Hallatia

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    4v1. I think it's pretty safe to say we have it, not that RCB's effort wasn't fantastic.
     
  10. edabomb

    edabomb First Grade

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    Good luck all. Over to the invisible ref.
     
  11. Russell Crowe's Band

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    yeah. long odds.

    dunno what happened to my regular team mates.
    must have forgot?
     
  12. jamesgould

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    Tough luck Russell Crowe's Band, that's never a good feeling when you're the only team member who posts. :(
     
  13. Willow

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    Possibly. Have you sent a PM to your captain?
     
  14. Russell Crowe's Band

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    yeah

    he thought it was full time this week not sunday.
     
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    That's a shame, but kudos to you for submitting RCB. It's a killer article too.
     
  16. madunit

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    WARRIORS - 83

    Russell Crowe’s Band – Israel Folau – Legend of the Realms of Fantasy – 83 (750 words)
    A look at a flukish finding in the fantasy league back in 2007, that turned to be more than just that, but the birth of a test star. A few spelling errors affected your score.

    NINJAS - 336

    edabomb – The ‘New Zealand’ Warriors – 85 (718 words)
    An interesting look back at the Warriors name change and how little the team promotes Rugby League outside of Auckland. I felt though that the article needed something more to finish with, maybe more about the NRL bid for a second NRL team in New Zealand. Still a very well-researched piece and raises a pertinent issue overlooked by a lot of league fans.

    jamesgould – Rebuilding – 87 (749 words)
    A very level headed and sensible look at the pressures facing modern coaches who are new arrivals at their respective clubs. Very well written piece indeed.

    CobyDelaney – Sacrifice – 82 (87-5 pts for low word count) (642 words)
    A good article reminding us all exactly why players demand such high salaries and that possibly, those salaries are enough to reimburse them for the sacrifices they make just to play in the NRL.

    Joshie – The Melbourne Storm History Book – 82 (671 words)
    Poetry is a complicated beast to achieve in this competition, given how long the piece has to be. While your effort was commendable and valiant, sadly for me, there were some confusing turns of phrase which didn’t quite make sense and seemed to be there purely to rhyme. Possibly a few edits and re-reads would have improved this article quite a bit. Still, adventurous writing is not something to be locked away, but mastered.

    Ninjas win 336-83

    Player Of The Match – jamesgould (Ninjas)
     
  17. edabomb

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    Thanks for the marks and comments madunit, always appreciated :)

    Well done Ninjas and JG on the MOTM. Great to be heading into the back end of the competition with some form on the board.

    Bad luck Rusty - a quality article that deserved some support. I hope 30 Odd Foot of Grunts show up to your next match to give you a hand.
     
  18. Hallatia

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    Go Team!

    Well played RCB
     

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