2016/17 Premier League

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  1. saint.nick

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    No, I don't like the way they use it as a reason for why their season is suddenly a bigger accomplishment than Spurs', or even Liverpool's.
     
  2. Mong

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    Yes..

    Do I need to quote you again?

    Then again, who cares if they say that and celebrate it.. A "cheap trophy" is better than our teams won.. You are very close to sounding jealous they won something major... And yes it's still a major trophy..
     
  3. saint.nick

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    Go ahead then, quote me.

    West Ham came 12th or something. Of course it is better than what West Ham did. But what's a bigger achievement, coming second in the EPL, or winning a second-rate European competition? You'd have to be deluded if you think it's the latter.

    Clubs don't play for trophies themselves, they play for achievements. If LVG finished 4th place last season with no FA Cup, he would have kept his job.
     
  4. Mong

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    Winning the European competition they were in and qualifying for the CL is an achievement and would have been something they set out to do..

    You're upset because some fans claim its therefore a more successful season than Liverpool...

    Stop being so precious, you're beginning to sound like the local bandwagon Chelsea fan!!
     
  5. saint.nick

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    Precious? Jeez mate it's just a discussion. You need to stop overusing the word 'upset' too, it's a lazy way of trying to delegitimise what the other person is saying. Overall I have nothing to be upset about because Liverpool reached their target this season.

    No Mong, you can try and polish a turd all you like, but scraping past second-rate European teams several rungs below you is not an achievement. What United actually set out to do was challenge for the league, with UCL qualification being a mere given.
     
  6. Mong

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    Ok well if you don't think winning a major European Trophy and qualifying for the CL is an achievement that's up to you..

    In the real world though......
     
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  7. saint.nick

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    No, they're not achievements in the real sense of the word. So I don't know what 'real world' you're in?
     
  8. Haffa

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    in your opinion...

    Sorry Arsenal Supporters you finished 5th and Sp*rs finished second so that means, despite winning a trophy, because they qualified for a competition they're never going to win and will probably go out at the group stage...again, winning the FA Cup isn't a bigger achievement. That's the real world...
     
  9. saint.nick

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    Well I'm still yet to hear anyone on this forum justify how arsing through mighty teams of Anderlecht, Rostov, Celta Vigo and Ajax Jr is an achievement.

    Yes Haffa, it is the real world. That's the real world that hit LVG on his way out of the door.
     
  10. Jack_Napier

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    It's an achievement because they set out to win that competition and did. They played weakened sides in the premier league and went hard at the EL. Much like LFC did last season.

    You're fixated on how united used to be as opposed to where they are at now. That squad needs plenty of work like Haff said regardless of getting in ibra and spending a fortune for pogba.
     
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    LVG was gone regardless of where they finished. The reality is Jose was hired in March.
     
  12. saint.nick

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    That's got nothing to do with what an achievement really is Jack.

    So where are United now? At Celta Vigo's level?
     
  13. saint.nick

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    No he wasn't. If LVG finished 4th, he was staying for another year until they planned to hire Allegri. The United board were very uneasy about Mourinho and to some extent still are.
     
  14. Mong

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    FMD

    A club winning a competition they set out to win isn't an achievement...

    That is bunniesman level reasoning...
     
  15. saint.nick

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    So I could set out to win the local U9's tennis competition and then bask in the glory of 'achievement' after I win because I won a competition I set out to win.
     
  16. Mong

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    U 9's?

    Really?
     
  17. saint.nick

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    Europa League? Really?
     
  18. saint.nick

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    Cambridge definition of an achievement: "something very good and difficult that you have succeeded in doing".

    Since when is beating the mighty Anderlecht, Rostov, Celta Vigo and Ajax Jr 'difficult' and 'very good' for Man f**king United?

    They failed to make even the top 4 in a much harder EPL competition so they resorted to picking up a cheap trophy in a much easier competition. That is not achievement.
     
  19. Mong

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    f**ks sake..

    You're embarrassing yourself Nick.
     
  20. saint.nick

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    @Jimbo is this what he says when he's throwing the white flag?

    Lolz.
     

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