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2nd Test: India v Australia at Hyderabad (Deccan) Mar 2-6, 2013

Didgi

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Score runs? He doesn't do that much. I suppose 45 or so is good going by his standard.

Time for a declaration Clarkey.

1. See off the new ball
2. Put a price on his wicket
3. Try to build partnerships once he saw off the new ball
4. Score runs.

In case you hadn't noticed, 44 is good by the entire team's standard this innings.
 

gUt

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And you manage to outstupid yourself with every post, i don't think i've ever seen someone with less cricket knowledge than you.

I have:

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vvvrulz

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1. See off the new ball
2. Put a price on his wicket
3. Try to build partnerships once he saw off the new ball
4. Score runs.

In case you hadn't noticed, 44 is good by the entire team's standard this innings.

Cowan isn't the problem, not setting the world on fire but he's trying at least.
 

Sphagnum

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RIP AUSTRALIAN CRICKET

There's no coming back from that. England will absolutely destroy us at home and away. We're f**ked
 

Twizzle

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poms will prepare turners and play Monty and Swan in every test, they'd be mad if they didn't
 

Tommy Smith

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Iafeta is 100% spot on.

The last time i checked, Ed Cowan is a batsman. And a batsman's job is to score runs.

Take the shine off the ball, occupy the crease, put a price on your wicket; all that stuff is cute.

But, first and foremost, an openers job is to score runs - the same as everyone in your top 6.

Besides, by all rights Eddy should have gotten a 25 ball duck had Dhoni held onto that relatively easy chance. As it is he got one of his customary 20-50 scores which will win you zero tests but contribute to losng quite a few.

He averages 32 after an extended run. That's the bottom line. So some of you guys are doing an amazing job of makng him sound more worthy than he really is.
 

Didgi

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Iafeta is 100% spot on.

The last time i checked, Ed Cowan is a batsman. And a batsman's job is to score runs.

Take the shine off the ball, occupy the crease, put a price on your wicket; all that stuff is cute.

But, first and foremost, an openers job is to score runs - the same as everyone in your top 6.

Besides, by all rights Eddy should have gotten a 25 ball duck had Dhoni held onto that relatively easy chance. As it is he got one of his customary 20-50 scores which will win you zero tests but contribute to losng quite a few.

He averages 32 after an extended run. That's the bottom line. So some of you guys are doing an amazing job of makng him sound more worthy than he really is.

Well done overly simplifying cricket. If only it was as easy as looking at averages and making assertions even BunniesMan would be an expert.

You've either failed to realise that there's about five much bigger problems in the Australian team at the moment (two in potential openers alone, with Watson and Hughes performing much much worse, then there's Maxwell's distinct crappyness), or overlooked the fact that there simply is no replacement knocking on the door to take his spot.

No one is claiming Cowan is a world beater, but he does a lot better than the alternatives.
 
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Not that this team doesn't deserve bagging, but been some handier Aussie teams filled with plenty of talent who have been paddy-whacked over there.

Not excusing today's dross in any way, but it is a tough place for Australian test teams to historically perform in and win at.
 

Tommy Smith

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Well done overly simplifying cricket. If only it was as easy as looking at averages and making assertions even BunniesMan would be an expert.

You've either failed to realise that there's about five much bigger problems in the Australian team at the moment (two in potential openers alone, with Watson and Hughes performing much much worse, then there's Maxwell's distinct crappyness), or overlooked the fact that there simply is no replacement knocking on the door to take his spot.

No one is claiming Cowan is a world beater, but he does a lot better than the alternatives.
Im aware that there are a number of underperforming players in the Aussie top order. And id dump half of them atm - Cowan and Hughes. Id give Shaun Marsh another crack as he cant do much worse than the current mob despite his horror run over his last few test innings.

Obviously it wont happen but this is the team id pick for the 3rd Test:

Watson
Marsh
Khawaja
Clarke
Warner (give him a crack down the order and see how it works; its not as if youre exposing him to spin when Ashwin opens the bowling anyway)
Henriques
Haddin
O'Keefe
Siddle
Pattinson
Lyon
 

Xfactor1979

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Aussie teams filled with plenty of talent who have been paddy-whacked over there.

Same diff with India coming downunder.

The only time India are actually competitive at all in Australia was when they had Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan and a couple of other reasonable medium pacers. The rest of the time, their spinners are useless downunder
 

Tommy Smith

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Actually ive just seen how shit Marsh's first class stats are. You guys dont even have any young talents coming through who average in the 40s. Australia are FUBAR as far as batting goes for the next 5 years at least.

So stick Warner back up to open and put George Bailey in at no.5.
 

vvvrulz

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Same diff with India coming downunder.

The only time India are actually competitive at all in Australia was when they had Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan and a couple of other reasonable medium pacers. The rest of the time, their spinners are useless downunder

Kumble bowled well in that tour, but Harby is always fodder.
 
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All about chances. Dhoni takes that catch and we'd all call for Cowan's head, as well as Hughes and Maxshit and Watson. As it stands he didnt and he made his 150 when he knocked 44. Truth is as an opener, he struggles with the new ball. He is nervous, badly poised and twitchy. He should've have gotten a duck. But it is all about chances.

As it stands Cowan, Hughes, Watson are out of form. Watto and HAH horribly. Maxwell can't bat, Henriques struggled this game, Wade is pretty brainless at times, Warner is shakey..
 

Iafeta

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Well done overly simplifying cricket. If only it was as easy as looking at averages and making assertions even BunniesMan would be an expert.

You've either failed to realise that there's about five much bigger problems in the Australian team at the moment (two in potential openers alone, with Watson and Hughes performing much much worse, then there's Maxwell's distinct crappyness), or overlooked the fact that there simply is no replacement knocking on the door to take his spot.

No one is claiming Cowan is a world beater, but he does a lot better than the alternatives.

I equate Australian bats as being slightly arrogant (not a bad thing), but balls to the wall when the heats on. The moment when we should realise he's not that bloke is the SCG test against the Windies when he ran like a 4 month three legged rabbit to not only cost his partner an easy second run, but run himself out without any regard for his wicket at all. That was probably the least arrogant, balls to the wall moment in the last 10 years of Australian test cricket.
 

Iafeta

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1. See off the new ball
2. Put a price on his wicket
3. Try to build partnerships once he saw off the new ball
4. Score runs.

In case you hadn't noticed, 44 is good by the entire team's standard this innings.

Yeh that's something to celebrate :lol::lol: I never thought I'd see the day when an Australian celebrates mediocrity. 44 BTW is a very liberal application of 'scoring runs'. Imagine if Langer and Hayden were satisfied with that. Its almost as if you're accepting that that is the best of the bad bunch for Cowan.
 

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