Aitken

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by TRANSLATION, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. Drakon

    Drakon Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2016
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    511
    I like Aitken and initially saw the similarity to Cooper's defence but last year saw his weakness in lateral defence. Players were getting around him. Happened in the 4 Nations tournament playing for Scotland too. Hope Cooper has been schooling him this last week!
     
  2. JohnnoMcJohnno

    JohnnoMcJohnno Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2015
    Messages:
    931
    Likes Received:
    976
    It's not only the lateral defence, it's under the high ball as well. Not sure you can coach that.
     
  3. Ljack77777

    Ljack77777 Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    Euan aitken is a gun.. he is all that was talked about last year now after we resign him people want him gone.. he is going to be a centre for a few years yet.. defence is about communication and the winger has a choice to push in with the centre or leave a massive hole on the outside and i think its mostly the wingers fault for not taking his man or reacting quick enough.. aitkens saved us plenty of times by rushing out of the line and making the right options..hopefully as the combinations have more time they can get it right.. look forward to some strong defence and a dugan man of the match performance should top the week off well :L
     
  4. Carlton

    Carlton Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    636
    A lot of people on here for a long time have been saying they don't think Aitken is a centre. His defensive problems are not the wingers fault, his defence actually makes it very hard for the winger to position themselves or know which attacker they need to take.

    Aitken allows his opposition to get around him too often which then causes his winger grief as an overlap has been established.
     
  5. Ljack77777

    Ljack77777 Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    I see where your coming from he has been beaten a few times standing but give the opposite centre credit where it's due last week it was jennings.. aitken was a solid centre last year with an average game plan.. watch him light it up this year.. he is young and still learning i dont see much difference with aitken defending in the second row.. he has the footwork and power to score on the edges but he isnt the biggest player in the world he would be handled easier by there forwards..
     
  6. possm

    possm First Grade

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    6,173
    Likes Received:
    2,781
    There was no need to extend his contract for an extra 3 years, this early in the season.
    All that has happened is that Millward has ticked another one of his boxes however, you can be sure he will not take responsibility if Aitken turns out to be a dud; not agile enough for the centre position and too small for the backrow.

    I say we do not need the Millward empire. All we need is someone like Peter Mullholland - a good recruitment officer who answers to the coach and a good junior development officer who answers to the coach.

    Problem is we don't have a good coach and the solution is replace the coach with a much better coach.

    Clean out the old boys who are setting themselves up for long term employment in positions that are unnecessary. The Club desperately needs a clean out.
     
  7. Carlton

    Carlton Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    636
    I would love him to have a big year but I have serious doubts about his ability to play centre in first grade. I am not commenting on his skill set with this next comment but, I have always thought physically he looks like a hooker. He could be a good utility but I cant really find a specific position I think he can make his own.
     
    Saints Forever likes this.
  8. dangerousdave

    dangerousdave Bench

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2010
    Messages:
    3,097
    Likes Received:
    649
    Aitken is gun.
    Despite what people say, he's big, strong, fast and, most importantly, still young.

    The problem is that his deficiencies with flair/agility and (particularly) in defensive reading, are VERY pronounced. He needs to rectify these ASAP, even if it means a stint in reserve grade.
     
    OzDragon likes this.
  9. Drakon

    Drakon Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2016
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    511
    Given there are 32 centres playing in the NRL each week. Does anyone rate Aitken in the top 10? Top 16?
     
  10. BrissyRedV

    BrissyRedV Bench

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,120
    Likes Received:
    1,952
    Aitken is young and will develop further. We do have some quality options at centre however, and a stint in the 2nds would not hurt his development one iota. It also keeps players on their toes knowing that if they have a shocker, they can be dropped.
     
    Dragsters likes this.
  11. Saints Forever

    Saints Forever Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2014
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    1,198
    Am hoping the young fellow learns from his mistakes

    He will improve as the season progresses

    His problem is we have an abundance of options for Centre in all grades.

    Only the strongest and best will survive the NRL ride

    Best of luck to you Euan
     
  12. Dragsters

    Dragsters Juniors

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2015
    Messages:
    1,957
    Likes Received:
    1,568
    This.

    I believe those on here calling for him to be dropped, like me feel that it would be to his benefit.

    He is only young and if centre is to be his position then development at cup level is what he needs to focus on his defensive technique.

    Now is the perfect time for this to happen as we have depth at centre with Milne, who realistically should be in first grade anyhow.
     
  13. Ljack77777

    Ljack77777 Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    all this talk about aitken is distracting us from the lafai problem.. milne doesnt deserve the spot any more then aitken does it isn't hard to look good in reserves.. hopefully tonight changes some minds aitken deserves to be in the 17
     
    ALSGI likes this.
  14. Ljack77777

    Ljack77777 Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    aitken is our best centre.. great half by the boys
     
    j0nesy likes this.
  15. dangerousdave

    dangerousdave Bench

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2010
    Messages:
    3,097
    Likes Received:
    649
    If that pass wasn't forward, the try would've been on Aitken.

    I love the kid but his defensive reads and lateral defense need a lot of work.
     
    tumbidragon and Country Dragon like this.
  16. Country Dragon

    Country Dragon Juniors

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    518
    Thanks Mary
     
  17. God-King Dean

    God-King Dean Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2004
    Messages:
    46,456
    Likes Received:
    752
    Congrats on the 2 tries, but......

    His defence is beyond bad. It really is simple - stay on the centres outside shoulder. But he gets beaten time & time again. It's gets comical.

    This says to me:

    He's either dumb as shit, or McGregor isn't correcting him. Probably both.

    Makes me wonder whether the club does video reviews of individual performances.
     
    Country Dragon and Drakon like this.
  18. gitano

    gitano Juniors

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    875
    Likes Received:
    189
    It isn't all Aitken. There were barely any issues down there last year.
    Swapping Nene and Nighty will go a long way to fixing the issue.

    He deserves his spot and played well.
    The circle jerkers on here might need to hunt for a new target this week.
     
    dragonssamy61 likes this.
  19. kit66

    kit66 Juniors

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,030
    Likes Received:
    219
    I bagged him after the first two rounds but I applaud the way he played tonight. I love being proved wrong, hope he keeps it up.
     
    dragonssamy61 and j0nesy like this.
  20. Country Dragon

    Country Dragon Juniors

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    518
    Scoring two tries doesn't take away from his cluelessness in defence, or at least it shouldn't!
     
    Old Timer, Dragsters and Drakon like this.

Share This Page