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All Blacks v Wallabies - Bledisloe Cup

Thomas

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So mitchell sitting on a chair 20 metres from the ref missed the call?? he should have been paying attention, you would think all the trainers and supprt staff the wannabies have might have mentioned it to him as well.

Probably. He doesn't strike me as the brightest guy going around. He was probably looking in the mirror.
 

JoeD

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The refs had a shocker

- AB's first try should have been a penalty to Aust. Carter offside after the ball hit Nonu
- AB's second try, no clear replay but all the kiwi commentators said Mils offside from Jane kick
- Franks yellow card a shocker.
- Mitchells first yellow equally as bad.
- If they had gotten his number Whitelock would've been the worst though.

Having said all that I'm glad he had the balls to follow through with his threat even when the offender was already on a yellow.
 

Thomas

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Yeah, the ref made some bad decisions but he made them for both teams. The only positives I can take out of this match are:

1: The Wallabies didn't roll over and die in the second half with 14 men. The second half score was 14-12 to the All Blacks. That was sort of pleasing.

2: Pocock. Holy crap. One of his best games and a sign that Australia have a world class fetcher for the next 10 or so years. He's only 22.
 

shiznit

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Yeah, the ref made some bad decisions but he made them for both teams. The only positives I can take out of this match are:

1: The Wallabies didn't roll over and die in the second half with 14 men. The second half score was 14-12 to the All Blacks. That was sort of pleasing.

2: Pocock. Holy crap. One of his best games and a sign that Australia have a world class fetcher for the next 10 or so years. He's only 22

like i said earlier.... he seems like hes got the 1 ingredient that George Smith lacked against McCaw... that extra bit of size.

he could be something REAL special...

to temper that though.... he's in what will be known as the 'Richie McCaw era'...

like George Smith... a great openside flanker... one of the best ive ever seen... but just really sad his tenure coincided with McCaw.
 

Parra

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Mitchell sin-binning wrong, IRB admits

August 4, 2010 - 4:00PM

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Drew Mitchell of the Wallabies is sent off after a second yellow card in the Bledisloe Cup opener. Mitchell was controversially sin-binned in the first half following a touch judge's report on a late tackle. Photo: Getty Images

South African Cobus Wessels has been stood down as an assistant referee for Saturday's rugby Tri Nations Test between the All Blacks and Australia, officials said today.
The decision to replace Wessels followed a review of his performance when the teams clashed in Melbourne last Saturday, the International Rugby Board (IRB) said in a statement.
IRB referees boss Paddy O’Brien admitted that the decision to sin-bin Drew Mitchell for a late tackle on Richie McCaw was incorrect.
Wessels had made the recommendation to match referee Craig Joubert in the first half although television footage later showed the decision to be a mistake.
"If anything, it's lucky to be a penalty," O’Brien said.
"McCaw offloads as he's about to collide with Drew Mitchell, who puts his hands out and pushes him away. So there’s no way it’s a yellow card offence.
"As a result of that, with the second yellow, Australia went without a player for 30 minutes and that just shouldn’t have happened."
"Cobus has been very understanding, he admits that he got it wrong and we’re not going to hang him out to dry. He’s got to go away and think about that, referee the Currie Cup and hopefully learn a lesson from it," O'Brien said.
Mitchell went on to be shown a second yellow card for slowing down play after half-time, resulting in an automatic sending off, which cost Australia sorely in defence. The All Blacks went on to win 49-28.
New Zealander Keith Brown replaces Wessels in Christchurch but the selection of a non-neutral would not be a precedent for future Tests and was for logistical reasons, the IRB said.
Agencies




http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...nbinning-wrong-irb-admits-20100804-11a5n.html
 

Thomas

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Was he the same touchie that pinged Franks' tackle which was an awesome tackle and not a penalty?
 

shiznit

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Mitchell sin-binning wrong, IRB admits

August 4, 2010 - 4:00PM

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Drew Mitchell of the Wallabies is sent off after a second yellow card in the Bledisloe Cup opener. Mitchell was controversially sin-binned in the first half following a touch judge's report on a late tackle. Photo: Getty Images

South African Cobus Wessels has been stood down as an assistant referee for Saturday's rugby Tri Nations Test between the All Blacks and Australia, officials said today.
The decision to replace Wessels followed a review of his performance when the teams clashed in Melbourne last Saturday, the International Rugby Board (IRB) said in a statement.
IRB referees boss Paddy O’Brien admitted that the decision to sin-bin Drew Mitchell for a late tackle on Richie McCaw was incorrect.
Wessels had made the recommendation to match referee Craig Joubert in the first half although television footage later showed the decision to be a mistake.
"If anything, it's lucky to be a penalty," O’Brien said.
"McCaw offloads as he's about to collide with Drew Mitchell, who puts his hands out and pushes him away. So there’s no way it’s a yellow card offence.
"As a result of that, with the second yellow, Australia went without a player for 30 minutes and that just shouldn’t have happened."
"Cobus has been very understanding, he admits that he got it wrong and we’re not going to hang him out to dry. He’s got to go away and think about that, referee the Currie Cup and hopefully learn a lesson from it," O'Brien said.
Mitchell went on to be shown a second yellow card for slowing down play after half-time, resulting in an automatic sending off, which cost Australia sorely in defence. The All Blacks went on to win 49-28.
New Zealander Keith Brown replaces Wessels in Christchurch but the selection of a non-neutral would not be a precedent for future Tests and was for logistical reasons, the IRB said.
Agencies




http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...nbinning-wrong-irb-admits-20100804-11a5n.html
LOL!! digging yourself a deeper hole...

notice how it was the fist yellow card that was wrong... no one here has argued against that....

what you complained about was the 2nd yellow card and subsequent red card for the slapping the ball down.
 

Parra

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LOL!! digging yourself a deeper hole...

notice how it was the fist yellow card that was wrong... no one here has argued against that....

what you complained about was the 2nd yellow card and subsequent red card for the slapping the ball down.



I complained about all of the cards in that match. The move towards soccer-style officiating and removal of common sense, or judgement, from the referees is wrong and results in debacles like the one we just witnessed. A good match, an important series and a tainted win for the AB's.

It was a great example of what is not needed in rugby.
 

Parra

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All Blacks prop urges refs to ease off

August 05, 2010 - 3:48pm
Story by: AAP
Owen Franks wants the refs to be a bit slower to reach for the yellow card


All Blacks prop Owen Franks has called for Bundaberg Red Tri Nations referees to show State of Origin-like leniency to ensure Rugby Tests don't deteriorate into mismatches.
His suggestion comes after Qantas Wallabies winger Drew Mitchell was sent off in the loss to the All Blacks in Melbourne last Saturday only for the IRB referees boss Paddy O'Brien to later admit the first of his two yellow cards was unjustified.
Wallabies coach Robbie Deans on Thursday described the Mitchell dismissal as a "blight on the game" and said he would like SANZAR officials to consider options like the NRL's reporting system for matters not requiring a straight send off.
"There's people in places that will look at it and say: 'Is this really what we want the public to be seeing - a contest of 15 on 14?'" Deans said.
"They may consider that to be too prone to judgement and hence possibly compromise the game when we could deal with some of that stuff later."
Determined to stamp out foul play, referees have already issued six yellow cards, plus Mitchell's red, in the opening four Tri-Nations Tests.
Franks also spent 10 minutes in the sin bin for a shoulder charge last Saturday night and is urging match officials to go a little easier on players for minor infringements in the Test cauldron.
"Getting sent off can have a lot of consequence on your team and have a lot of consequence on yourself too," he said.
"It would be cool to see a Test match played like a, maybe not to the extent, but almost like an Origin where little things like that get let go without that detriment in the game.
"You know, it's a physical contest and both teams want to win so I don't see no problems with that sort of stuff.
"It's good (in Origin), they just let you go at it. Obviously anything out of hand gets dealt with but they seem to let little things go, which would be pretty cool to see in rugby."
Asked if he agreed with Deans's post-match assessment that it didn't feel like a Test match after Mitchell was sent off, Franks said: "It did dull the game down a little bit, yeah."
Deans said having the IRB four days later admit they got it wrong by sending Mitchell off "doesn't help" - but nor does he want referees to soften their stance.
"We just seek consistency," he said. "But obviously being accurate in the first instance is part of that.
"From the Tri Nations to date, that's an area that's had a significant impact on the competition.
"So if it's going to have such a big impact, first and foremost, we need to ensure that it's just."
Deans said there was "merit" in applying the NRL's report now, act later system for on-field offences not deemed serious enough for a straight send-off.
"There's any numbers of possibilities in terms of how you approach that area, but that's not for us to dwell on here. We're here to play," he said.
"The rules are what they are. It's important that we don't get on the wrong side of those and leave ourselves vulnerable and compromised to risk."




http://rugby.com.au/news/aap/s-679488_all_blacks_prop_urges_refs_to_ease_off,141206.html
 

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