Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Rob Dragon, May 12, 2017.
One week for an off the ball shoulder charge. WTF
I am thinking that Hunt is going to find career best form this year. He will be playing behind a very strong pack. He will also be allowed to be the dominate play maker and play both sides of the field, like a halfback should. I think Bennett may have restricted Hunt to a degree.
I also am very happy to hear/read that Widdop has a licence to roam around the field and play both sides. Combine that with finally having a good halfback to play beside and a strong pack in front of him. I am thinking that Widdop may find career best form too.
If I am correct, we are going to have a very good year and play some very attractive football.
I used to have a philosophy that the team with the best pair of halves has the best chance of winning a comp, I still have that philosophy, but have added fullback to the equation.
WTF indeed Frank. Poor old Vaughan was in a pretty bad way but took it on the chin.
You are not qualified to comment on quality because you have no footballing credentials...stick to music instead of masquerading as having knowledge beyond that of your peers who watch the same television broadcast as you.
I'm so glad you spent all that time trying to find all of those personal details. You must have a lot of time on your hands. I'm flattered, truly.
I'd also LOVE to know your credentials.
Ben Hunt confident St George Illawarra Dragons attack will return to form
Room to improve: Halfback Ben Hunt. Picture: AAP Image/Craig Golding.
St George Illawarra Dragons halfback Ben Hunt is confident his side’s attack will get back on track in Sunday’s match against the Titans.
The Dragons attack struggled at times in Thursday night’s victory over the Sharks, with much of the polish from the round one win over the Broncos absent. While pleased the side was able to grind its way to victory, Hunt recognised the team lost it’s structure at times and is confident the issues have been rectified.
“The biggest thing in our attack, it’s about getting our set plays better,” Hunt said.
“I think in the game against the Sharks, we sort of got away from the places on the field we wanted to get to and setting up for our big plays. We got a bit lost in that regard and that’s something we need to improve.”
“I sort of felt like we were a little bit too lateral. I felt like the way the Sharks like to get up and muscle up in defence, we tried to move the ball a little bit. Overall I think we just need to be a lot better in our attack.”
You are being a d##k h##d
More than just $1 million: What Hunt demanded from Dragons
by Nathan Ryan
21st Mar 2018 4:54 PM
IT wasn't all about the money.
Sure, $1 million plus a season was a lucrative and enticing offer but there was no Jerry Maguire moment when it came to contract negotiations with Ben Hunt.
A lot has been made of the large figure St George Illawarra are paying their marquee recruit but what you don't know is the lengthy and revealing conversations the club had with the halfback in the lead-up to securing his signature.
Dragons' Director of Rugby League Pathways Ian Millward revealed it took four meetings with Hunt - three of them in Brisbane - before the deal was done.
And the pitch was more detailed than most recruitment meetings.
Ben Hunt during training at WIN Stadium.
While the former Brisbane No.7 had met all of Millward's conditions for signing a playmaker, the 27-year-old had four critical questions he needed answers to.
"Ben had criteria when he came on board with us too. It wasn't all about our criteria," Millward said.
"Our criteria internally was, we wanted a halfback who'd played 100 plus NRL games, we wanted a halfback who had played either Origin or who had played in a grand final, we wanted a halfback whose personality was flat lined a lot, it wasn't spiked up and down.
"There was a lot of traits we were looking for and then when we sat down with Ben he had a lot of criteria too.
"He wanted to know who was going to be the right second rower, what style we were going to play, did we have any halfbacks on our coaching staff that could continue to advance his game and help him with feedback.
"He wanted to know the strength of our forwards. That was a real big thing criteria with Ben.
Ben Hunt gets a kick away.
"We had to really go into some detail because Ben wasn't up to date with how good (Jack) De Belin was, how Tariq (Sims) was going and some of our younger forwards coming through and Cameron McInnes as a hooker he had to gain a rapport with so there was a little bit of trust he had to take in with us."
Millward was impressed by Hunt's line of questioning.
Rather than accept the dollar figure like many other players would have, he was invested and since arriving at the joint venture, his passion has only intensified.
"That really impressed you. It wasn't just 'oh yeah, I've listened to you and might move on'," he said.
"Obviously the biggest thing that came through our pre-season, is he was able to interact really quickly with guys. He's a person that's really level headed but not spiking at times, some days he's up and some days he's done. His personality is very good.
"The players appreciated him when we did a lot of opposed at training early in the pre-season.
"His kicking game, the way he can build pressure and the way he kept his composure through a lot of the in-house training. He's been able to transfer that to a game.
"He's been a person that the other players are really enjoying playing with and they appreciate what he's brought and the interaction with his spine has been really well. They have a real good rapport early."
Ben Hunt is congratulated by Tyson Frizell.
While seeking detail, the depth of questioning on Hunt's end isn't uncommon for a player of his ilk.
As a Test and Queensland Origin representative, Millward said Hunt's at a stage of his career where he's chasing success.
With 22 of their top 30 signed on for 2019, the Dragons have stability and security within their squad and most notably, their key positions.
"If you're talking to marquees, they do usually have options," Millward said of talks with Hunt.
"You've got to pitch. You're not just turning up saying we've got a good team, there's some money. Marquee players want to be surrounded with people that are going to give them longevity and also keep improving their game and keep improving their performance.
Ben Hunt in action for Dragons. Picture: Phil Hillyard
"A younger guy, you're trying to explain his pathway, where he's seen in the organisation, is there a succession plan for him moving forward?
"It's different to that player who's the middle of the road and looking for opportunity, who has been dogged by injuries and obviously the coach has a big effect on that too. When he sits down with the player, especially a marquee, he's got to sell his philosophies and the culture he's going to bring to the club and where that player fits in.
"It's not just about picking a player up and putting a figure on the table. There are players who'll sign for a little bit less at one club because they see that fit and that synergy and the coach and culture fits."
Hunt had been our best signing in years and is the missing link we needed so badly.
Where do people rate him against the other sevens playing now.
I am happy that our marquee players are now our halves. I believe that our marquee players should be halves and fullback. Those are the players/positions that we should build our team around.
I am also very happy with the forward pack we currently have. It is a lot better than it was when Mary first took over the coaching role. If we didn't have a good pack, then Hunt probably would not have signed with us.
Millward has been excellent for our club. His criteria for a 7 was spot on, very good foresight to look for a specific personality type as well by Millward.
Regarding your last paragraph, I've given Mary plenty of shit and deservedly so but I can't help but believe he is oddly quite good at dealing with forwards. When James Graham speaks highly of Mary, you can really tell it's sincere.
And you are qualified to comment dickhead .......
I still have Thurston on top with Cronk not far behind.
Cleary looks really good and is improving.
Then I think the likes of Hunt, Cherry, Johnson would all pretty even, depending on the day. They all have very good running games and provide some X factor.
Taylor is a good young halfback, who looks to be a good game manager.
I think Foran is a good halfback, I would have Pearce next pick.
Croft looked good in the couple of games he played last year. He looks like a good prospect.
That's a really positive article. Particularly millwards comments.
I was skeptical of millwards appointment. But he really does seem to have improved our recruitment massively. Has a good sense of our gaps and targets his recruitment to fill them in the long term. Also seems comfortable making hard decisions which will see us in a better position in the long term.
Already seeing that in practice. One of his kicks in the second half against Sharks put them deep in their half at the right time in the game, much like Sowie.
" did we have any halfbacks on our coaching staff that could continue to advance his game and help him with feedback".
Very nice. A top shelf half not just singing on for the cash however, able to accept that others can improve his game. Don't think to many players would consider that.
I find it interesting that Walters is talking about Munster and Morgan as Qld haves, even DCE with no mention of Hunt. On current form you’d have to think Hunt would be there somewhere?
The fact that the Hunt/Widdop combo is already firing is a reeeeally positive sign. I was worried it might take some time for them to gel and thus may cost us a few games, but they're absolutely killing it already.
This is a halves combination that will be together for at least the next 4 years, so it's important that they know each other inside out.
Finally, some stability!
Remember the Muster V Hunt title fight, but who knows ALSGI.
It wouldn't surprise me if Walters doesn't cast his net past the QLD teams and MEL.
Definitely happy with Hunt at this stage. Good for the club. There is room for improvement and that’s good.
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