Anthony Griffin available?

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Frank Facer, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:06 AM.

  1. Frank Facer

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    Should we sign Griffin to take over from Mary? After reading how Griffin took over Penrith in a bad state and now has them going pretty well, he is starting to look like he has done a good job with Penrith. I never even would have entertained signing Griffin until he was sacked this week.

    I believe that if we sack Mary, that we will be looking for a premiership winning coach. Bennett, Flanagan, Mcguire and Hasler are the ones that I think our club will be targeting. For some reason, I think we may end up with Mcguire.

    I really think we need a new coach from outside our system, with some fresh and new ideas. We also need a coach, who can select the right players and drop players who are not performing. I think Griffin would be an upgrade on Mary, but I know that many on here will think that anyone would be an upgrade on Mary.
     
  2. Brutalitops

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    Absolutely not. In a million years.

    Jesus I know we aren't exactly happy with Mary but damn
     
  3. aquiin

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    No. Gould’s summation is closer to the truth from what I understand. Gould is being kind to Griffin.
     
  4. dannyt

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    No sure about Griffin, but agree we need someone from outside.

    The last 40 years of our history has shown that we don't do well with internal appointments.
    • Harry Bath played for us, but learned the coaching trade in the UK. Premiers 1977 and 1979.
    • Roy Masters was external. Should've won in either 1984 or 1985 (lost the GF), but for Kevin Roberts.
    • Craig Young was a club legend and captain of the 1979 team. His coaching record should never be mentioned.
    • Brian Smith, like Harry Bath, came back to us after stints with other teams. GFs in 1992 and 1993.
    • David Waite was external. Inherited a team ravaged by super league in 1996. Made the GF in 1996, but lost to Manly. Mason's definition of of "not held" didn't help. Made the GF as a JV with co-coach Farrar in 1999. All I can say about that game is "[email protected]#$ you harrigan, BURN IN HELL".
    • Andrew Farrar was the last Illawarra coach. Certainly classed as an "external", but probably in the mary class of coaches. As a side note, can anyone name an ex-centre that became a good coach?
    • Nathan Brown- talk about the old boys club. Was playing with the squad he inherited only a few years before. Wasted years with the squad he had.
    • Wayne Bennett. The ultimate external signing who delivered 2 minor premierships and the first premiership in 31 years.
    • Price and mary- both internal, both useless.
    Can you see a pattern? There's a saying that insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Since the 1980s, we have not made a GF with an internally appointed coach. [email protected]#$ing insane.

    Conversely, externally-appointed coaches have given us 8 GFs and 3 premierships since 1977. In fact, every externally-appointed coach since 1977 has led us to a GF (Farrar / Waite joint coaches in 1999).

    So, why in [email protected]#$s name would you appoint internally???

    Edit- another quote. Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
     
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  5. Frank Facer

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    Bellamy was an ex centre.

    Meninga has coached QLD and Australia, but I still would not go as far as calling him a good coach.

    I am having difficulty naming any other centers who have become successful coaches.
     
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  6. dannyt

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    Bellamy played in the centres, but also in other positions in the backline. More of a utility player.

    Mal and mary exclusively played centre. Do we know how good a coach Mal is? I mean, super successful at rep level but the calibre of players at his disposal! Conversely, we know how bad mary is.
     
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  7. Saintsified

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    Id rather Toovey and am gobsmacked he is still out of a job.
     
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  8. Warabrook saint

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    I don't think our board put a lot of thought into what might be best for the club
     
  9. dannyt

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    Agreed
     
  10. nontime111

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    wait for Bennett ;) with our cattle all we need is his experience, greatest coach of all time....better than JG and Bellamy
     
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  11. RedVDragon

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    No stay away
     
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  12. Dennis Papaioannou

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    I am sure Griffin is very capable and certainly seems to support a youth policy but given a choice, I would still put Bennett (with a JD succession plan) and Flanagan at the top of the list.
    I suppose it depends on the criteria.
    If it's winning comps or re building.
     
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    Looks like we’ve signed him:
    http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/griffen-sacked.471869/page-8#post-13085222
     
  15. Warabrook saint

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    That'll more than likely be the case
     
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  16. dragonssamy61

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    You are right.
    The guy's a total control freak.
    And had lost the dressing room players and staff.
     
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  17. Life's Good

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    Our club first has to acknowledge Mary isn’t the coach for us. Surviving the 2016 car crash & early 2017(with a late fade) indicates the club is not thinking there is a coaching issue.
    Dreams are free though(I wouldn’t take Griffin either, better candidates are available).
     
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  18. JohnnoMcJohnno

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    I hope this is an example of reverse psychology.
     
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  19. The Damo

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    Griffins supposed work with juniors etc was him reaping the rewards of cleary’s work. It’d be a sideways move for mine, certainly not a significant upgrade. Maguire or Bennett are the best proven options possible.
     
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  20. Overseas dragon

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    MY SPIES tell me creepy will be Dousts last appointment trying for next year ............OD dreaming again
     
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