ARLC Commission Changes

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  1. siv

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    Seems moves are gaining momentum propsed commission changes in Roy Masters article today

    ARLC to increase from 8 to 9

    5 independant directors
    1 QRL representative
    1 NSWRL representative
    2 NRL Club representatives

    Interesting to see how this plays out
     
  2. sensesmaybenumbed

    sensesmaybenumbed Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...e-representative-on-arlc-20170117-gtt7hr.html

    link to article.
     
  3. Perth Red

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    So clubs end up with 3 reps (given nswrl is basically mouth piece for Sydney clubs)

    So much for independent, games looks destined to never cast of its two state shackles. How about a position for the other states and nz whilst we are at it?
     
  4. shaggs

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    Give it a rest. Why don't you just see what happens.
    Stop preaching expansion for the sake of it.
     
  5. sensesmaybenumbed

    sensesmaybenumbed Moderator Staff Member

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    Perth should have 7 spots on an 8 man board.
     
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  6. The Great Dane

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    PR is right though, the commission won't be independent if/when this go ahead.
    We'll just be right back where we started with self interest, infighting, and the clubs thinking that they are larger then the sport.

    The Commission didn't change much, but at least it theoretically was independent and working in the best interests of the sport as a whole, with these changes it won't even be that anymore.
     
  7. sensesmaybenumbed

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    I'm not doubting that may well be the case, but for perth red to accuse anyone else of self interest is hilarious.
     
  8. Lockyer4President!

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    Club reps on a supposedly independent board goes against the entire point of having an IC. No legitimate governing body does this.

    It would be a terrible outcome if it's pushed through.
     
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  9. siv

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    Number 1 goal of the commussion was to regain control of the game from News Ltd
     
  10. siv

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    I see this as being no different to the veto rights of the QRL and NSWRL - which are creating a lot of drama also

    What concerns me is lack of balance ie no affiliated states representative or Australian international RL representation

    And I also don't trust Dib or Politis. Dib is power hungry and Politis makes sure Easts interests are served and a token jesture to anything else
     
  11. BuffaloRules

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    The system they have at the moment sure ain't working..
     
  12. Lockyer4President!

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    I agree they're untrustworthy and honestly the NSWRL and QRL veto rights should be removed so the board is totally independent of all influence.

    Once the Perth and Adelaide clubs are up & running and we have a national competition with all states/interests represented, then we can spin off the NRL (with their own board made up of the clubs) from the ARL and let them each do their own thing. Same way every other country has things setup.

    Until then we're going to have these fights played out in the media with the average Aussie having less and less faith in the running of the game.
     
  13. BuffaloRules

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    "Once Perth and Adelaide are In the NRL..."

    So 2040 then?
     
  14. Lockyer4President!

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    Or tomorrow if the will is there. There are too many self-interested parties playing games at the moment.
     
  15. BuffaloRules

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    Ah but this is my point...

    The will is not there and we are not just talking about the self interested existing clubs...

    Grant also doesn't want NRL Expansion and prefers Second tier expansion instead come 2022...

    Get rid of him for starters if we want to see something change...
     
  16. Lockyer4President!

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    Grant is only one of the commissioners. Is it realistic to expect much to change if he goes? The IC will pick someone else.

    All we know is that the same people specifically calling for his head (and beating up the NSWvQLD angle) are the same people that want more club influence on the IC. It should cast some doubt on their intentions.
     
  17. siv

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    Things will change if the ARLC gets restructured as proposed

    As the chairman could come from one of the 4 non independent people would now become a possibility

    Eg we could get Politis as the ARLC chairman

    But not Greenberg
     
  18. El Diablo

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    why stop at 7?

    they should have 10 spots on an 8 man board and have 4 on the bench with unlimited interchanges
     
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  19. OVP

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    Nah f**k em
     
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  20. El Diablo

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    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...cliffe-resign-from-panel-20170118-gttmx8.html


    ARLC commissioners Graeme Samuel and Jeremy Sutcliffe resign from panel

    Disappointed at the direction the ARLC has taken in the past 18 months, particularly the recent surrender by chairman John Grant to NRL clubs over funding, two of Australia's most prominent businessmen have resigned as commissioners.

    Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February and CSR boss Jeremy Sutcliffe has already tendered his resignation, despite his term not expiring.

    [​IMG] Stepping down: Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February. Photo: Wayne Taylor

    The NRL yesterday confirmed both departures.

    Fairfax Media has been told Samuel's disenchantment with rugby league decision-making began with the sale, by former chief executive, Dave Smith, of broadcasting rights to Channel Nine and his disillusionment has continued with the demand by NRL clubs and state leagues for funding to be diverted away from grassroots development. Samuel is a strong advocate of rugby league's expansion into developing states.

    Sutcliffe offered his resignation to Grant 12 months ago, citing the demands of travel, but was encouraged to remain on the eight-person commission.

    Suggestions that Cathy Harris, the only female commissioner, would resign have been denied, with insiders claiming she is very loyal to Grant.

    The decisions by Samuel and Sutcliffe to resign were made ahead of the clandestine meeting of the boards of the NSWRL and QRL in Brisbane on Monday at which they reached agreement on a joint demand for a representative each on the ARLC.

    Should the NRL clubs also be successful in having two representatives on a proposed nine-person commission, the balance between independents and dependents would be five to four.

    This is an unsatisfactory model for those promoting impartiality, particularly non-Sydney clubs who are fearful of the influence of the strong duo of chairmen on the board of the NSWRL – the Roosters Nick Politis and the Bulldogs Ray Dib.

    Samuel's loss is significant. He played a major role in the evolution of a loss-making, archaic VFL into the AFL's position as the premier sporting code in the nation.

    A former AFL executive commissioner, Ross Oakley, cited Samuel in his book The Phoenix Rises as the most influential individual in the move from a state-based competition run by Melbourne clubs to a truly independent commission.

    Unlike the ARLC, which bans anyone joining the board who has held a position in rugby league over the previous three years, the AFL regularly drafts retiring club chairmen onto its commission.

    The removal of an AFL commissioner required 50 per cent of the clubs to agree.

    However, the NSWRL and QRL, together with many of the NRL clubs, demand direct representation.

    The resignations of Samuel and Sutcliffe may negate the need to increase the number of commissioners to nine.

    Rabbitohs chairman Nick Pappas has strong support from non-Sydney clubs and was a member of the NSW party which travelled to Brisbane on Monday.

    Significantly, Pappas is not a board member of the NSWRL and has often been at odds with Politis and Dib.

    A lawyer, Pappas played a significant role in the drafting of the current ARLC constitution.

    Should he be drafted onto the ARLC, it is expected he would be forced to resign as chairman of Souths.

    A December meeting of NRL clubs and the NSWRL deferred a decision on the future of Grant to March 1, when it is expected a review of the ARLC constitution will have been tabled by AOC chair and lawyer John Coates.

    Some NRL club chairmen expect a working party to then be appointed to review Coates' recommendations, with Pappas playing a leading role.

    While the loss of Samuel and Sutcliffe makes Grant's position increasingly untenable, there is no obvious, independent alternative, unless the ARLC's ambitious chief executive Todd Greenberg puts himself forward as executive chairman!
     

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