Discussion in 'World Cup 2017' started by DC_fan, Nov 12, 2017.
Come on bros. Here we go!
Where are these supposed knockons from Fiji, Chechen you f**ker?
We'll see mongoloid!
You're already wrong. You said Tonga would smash Lebanon and they won by 2.
Australia will likely win this WC that's not some massive prediction. That's hardly something to be proud of.
It seems that the warning to Australians about arrogance in this thread may have been better directed a little further east.
I don't want to sound over confident, but the world cup is Australia's to lose now.
Of what i have seen so far i can't see us getting out of 2nd gear to beat any of the remaining teams
Across the ditch!
My prediction that Tonga would thrash the Lebbos was like a side bet. The real bet is Australia thrashing everyone on their way to another WC. Something most people in here think isn't going to happen.
England are the only road block.
I admire your misguided confidence Bulldog!
OK then, England are the only speed bump.
You can't compare one sport with another as there are many variables between them.
The size and wealth of the Premier League is not a gauge on where England should be. In fact the wealth is almost a hindrance to the development of the England team as the league is swamped with expensive talent from all over the world. My home city team Liverpool have an Egyptian (Mohamed Salah) and a Senegalese (Sadio Mane) as wingers, two Brazilians (Coutinho and Firmino) as the other two attacking players, a midfield which often has a Dutchman (Wijnaldum), German (Emre Can), a backline which includes Spanish (Moreno), Croatian (Lovren), Cameroon (Matip) and a Belgian goalkeeper (Mignolet). The Premier League is the United Nations.
The German league not being as wealthy to afford top global talent have more German players in it, which assists the German national team. Also Germany have infinitely more coaches; the percentage of coaches to players is much higher over there. England have made changes to this in recent years which is beginning to show at youth level, with England winning the under 17 and under 20 World Cups this year.
NZ is a RU mad nation. It's in every fabric of their culture. Anecdotal stories of old women coming up to players telling them what they should have done. In England it's a sport rooted in public schools (known as private elsewhere) which make up most of the playing pool, largely hidden from view, and makes an appearance to the general public during the six nations and RUWC. England might have more resources than NZ but we don't have their RU culture. Wales have far fewer resources than England but have been more than a match; the greatest RU team from the British isles is the Wales team of the 1970s.
Australia vs England at RL is a mismatch in terms of resources, playing pool. culture, the lot. Rugby league having a small international footprint means the money the NRL has at its disposal is largely pumped back into Australia on nurturing Australian talent. There isn't any £40 million spent on an Egyptian or £35 million on a Senegalese Premier League type scenario. The money is spent at home. In the Super League every penny is spent to keep clubs afloat. There just isn't anywhere near the funds available for player development like Australia. RL being mainstream in Australia it has sponsorship deals from blue chip companies, in England it's small northern firms. In terms of playing pool there are 44,900 who regularly play RL in England ( http://www.totalrl.com/rugby-league-27th-popular-sport-terms-participation-according-data/ ), in Australia it's 247,000. Coaches, facilities, it's on a different level. The odds are really stacked against England being competitive with Australia. England could have done better here and there, but really results between the two are par for the course.
England was always Australia's only possible threat, they indicated that in the very first match. The Kiwi's have a coach who couldn't train a choko vine over a country toilet and they played just like the Warriors and seemed unconcerned.
Tonga has done well, as have Fiji. But the best two should emerge for the final and I hope so, as it will be a fairly good contest for the most part. I don't want to watch the Kangaroos decimate Tonga.
I expected England to get better and better as the tournament progressed, and they kinda have. I'd like to see a big jump next week against Tonga. They need to hold the ball for a start
England have the forwards and outside backs to score points. However their spine, in particular their halves, are just not up to it. Very poor pass selections yesterday and just bad 5th tackle plays for the most part.
I can see them getting strangled by Australia, if they get past Tonga 1st
It's funny, the poms have largely underrated Bennett as their coach and yet, he's probably going to see them into the final. Better than any other coach of England in 22 years.
Cos every England coach before him faced NZ in the semi's..
After watching the England V PNG game yesterday i predict that Tonga will beat them by 10.
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