Brexit

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  1. millersnose

    millersnose Post Whore

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    Well no you didn't answer the question

    Do you think the IRA have had a net positive affect on life in Northern Ireland

    It's either yes they have, no they haven't, or I don't know
     
  2. millersnose

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    And if wishes were horses fools would ride

    The problem you and your ilk fail to fathom is that there are over a million, a majority, in Northern Ireland that remain unconvinced they would be better off in the republic
    Either they must be persuaded and blowing up shops and buss stops was never going to work
     
  3. Pantherjim.

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    Pfft... As if you can compare the differences between Scotland and England to that between the six counties and the republic.

    Ireland is Ireland and prior to the forced ulster plantation, they were one people, one culture and one religion.

    Interesting that you've used Scotland as an example Pommy, even though there still is a separatist movement in Scotland, it's ironic that it's the descendants of Scots plantations who are the only people standing in the way of the six counties joining the Republic.
     
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  4. Pantherjim.

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    Well, yes I did answer your question.

    As it was never my assertion that "the IRA have had a net positive effect on Northern Ireland" in the first place, I refuse to play your stupid closed-ended question parlour games solely for your amusement.
     
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  5. Pantherjim.

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    Cool,

    Abusing civil rights, marginalisation, isolation and Gerrymandering into insignificance worked so much better.... Oh.... hang on.... No it didn't
     
  6. Pommy

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    Because there are absolutely no Catholic unionists. Zero.
    Yeah it was only hundreds of years ago and those people shouldn't have the same rights as actual Irish people. The plantation took place before the first fleet arrived so perhaps you shouldn't have a fair say here?
    People had moved between Britain and Ireland forever long before the plantation. f**kiny saint Patrick was more than likely English.
     
  7. Pommy

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    The difference is they werent trying to change something they were trying to make what they had bomb proof. To an extent it worked perfectly. The union remains and a United ireland is not even close.
    The other side need to win hearts and minds to win a vote which is what it was always going to come down to. The IRAs actions have made that vote unlikely to happen in our lifetimes. So his point is correct.
     
  8. Pantherjim.

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    So you agree with subjugation of a minority cross-section of society, as long as "It works perfectly?"
     
  9. Pantherjim.

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    I disagree Pommy, you have your opinion, I have mine. Let's just leave it at that.

    This is just going around in useless circles.
     
  10. Pommy

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    No I don't agree with it at all. I was just pointing out your argument being flawed. What the unionists did secured exactly what they wanted. What the IRA did has obviously won the rights the Catholics deserved but made their ultimate goal of a United ireland impossible.
     
  11. Pantherjim.

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    Well, that's one opinion.

    And we can agree to disagree on that as well.

    In fact, Brexit has proven to be excellent ammunition for Sinn Fein.
     
  12. Pommy

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    Possibly although it depends how Brexit looks. If Ireland's biggest customer now has tariffs and the EU are shafting them for their tax model it may put eirexit in the table.
     
  13. millersnose

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    So ergo the IRA have had a net negative affect on life in Northern Ireland
    Just finding common ground we can agree on PJ
    We have this special moment
     
  14. t-ba

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    Thread, resurrect thyself!

    What an awesome f**king 24 hours for Brexit, and to top it off!



     
  15. t-ba

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    As an aside, this is perhaps the best description of Bibi I have ever seen.
     
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  16. Tommy Smith

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    I'm pro Brexit; but I'd much rather those monkeys on type writers negotiating the withdrawal given how it's gone so far.
     
  17. butchmcdick

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    When is Brexit supposed to happen ?

    Are any systems/policies in place to ease the transition ?
     
  18. Bandwagon

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    Lube will be provided under the national health scheme.
     
  19. t-ba

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    Really?

    Because it looks like the EU is going in dry and the US won't bother either once it gets its turn on trade deals.

    Well, the US might use lube that passes American health and safety standards...
     
  20. Tommy Smith

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    Lol because the EU is currently working wonders for the likes of Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy.

    I hear their economies are booming. And their unemployment rates are so low!

    I don't deny that there are benefits to being in the EU; and if it worked as it truly should I'd probably be in favour.

    But let's not pretend that it's not a bureaucratic disaster.

    This belief that Britain will crumble and the sky will fall because we're leaving the EU is just nonsense. Norway and Switzerland seem to do just fine.

    Will the transition be tough? Absolutely. But in the long term I believe regaining our sovereignty is a positive. And the clock is ticking on when other nations follow suit.

    Maybe then we can just have an EEA and nothing more as it should be.
     

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