Budget 2014

Discussion in 'Four Corners' started by Jimbo, May 13, 2014.

  1. cerberus

    cerberus First Grade

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    your demonstrably lying . has efficiency of electricity use gone up ? yes !
    so your lying about a subject you know nothing about expect billboard bullshit rhetoric
     
  2. Bandwagon

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    I'm not going to bother attempting to argue the merits of an ETS with you, that's an exercise in futility, and was not my intent, as you well know.

    However, given you can't bring yourself to make the claim that an ETS is a carbon tax, no matter how you dance around the question, and I believe we have established that ALP policy is the introduction of an ETS, you would then have to concede it is a misleading statement to say " Shorten intends to reinstate the carbon tax "?

    I'm glad we could clear this up.
     
  3. Jimbo

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    The purpose of both things is to make electricity more expensive bandy

    As a consumer, I don't see a difference at all

    As I said though, feel free to call it whatever you like
     
  4. Pete Cash

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    So the copay is a getting sick tax.
     
  5. Lynoman

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    LOL. Is it upsetting you?

    And why would I when you did exactly what you did here, ignored your initial post and then tried to bluff and bluster your way to some kind of point, I have no idea what it is, seeing as you STILL HAVEN'T provided proof of your initial claim. When you decide to address that, then maybe I might decide to attempt to answer your loaded and deluded question.
     
  6. Bandwagon

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    Then why not state outright that an ETS is a carbon Tax by another name? Go on, you know you want to Jimbo.

    Or is there a reason you can't bring yourself to do so?
     
  7. the_flight_of_the_magpie

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    lol dont hold your breath waiting for him to show proof to his claim
     
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  8. Surely

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    Its worse than a carbon tax

    At least the govt got revenue from a tax, an ets will just see big finance rolling in it.
     
  9. Jimbo

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    Okay bandy

    An ETS is a carbon tax by another name

    Now, about that comment that Cormann didn't make...
     
  10. Bandwagon

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    Ha ha ha ha ha.

    So Clive voted to repeal the carbon tax, yet he wanted a carbon tax to replace it.

    Gold Jimbo!
     
  11. Bandwagon

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    That would depend on structure.
     
  12. Jimbo

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    Why on earth would your cowardice upset me? It's hilarious

    You talk a big game, but you're really just as weak as piss

    All those hours on end you've spent batting off to Bulgarian hookers has warped your sense of reality
     
  13. Jimbo

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    Clive is an idiot bandy. That's hardly news...

    In any case, an ETS with a price of zero as proposed by Clive is hardly a replacement
     
  14. Lynoman

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    And so now we get down to the nitty gritty. You can't get your way by bullying, so you go for personal abuse.

    What a complete charmer you are. The intellectual equivalent to a boiled lettuce leaf.

    Of course it doesn't detract from the fact you didn't back your claim and that you're a habitual liar.

    Oh and ps. If you weren't upset, you wouldn't keep bringing it up. Which you do.

    Oh and fyi, a carbon price isn't a tax, just for the record, so yet again, you deliberately lie.

    You didn;t answer Pete's question about the copay being a tax I notice either......
     
  15. Jimbo

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    :lol:

    Run, run, run

    Pussy...
     
  16. Jimbo

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    By the way Chatty, there's a lesson for you from 2SG in that thread which you fled in terror from

    See if you can spot it...
     
  17. Bandwagon

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    Yes Clive is a bit strange. But you seem a little confused, are you saying a Clive ETS is not a carbon tax?
     
  18. Lynoman

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    Who's running?

    Oh wait you are. Every time you get asked for proof of your claims, you can't back it up. Then you go on some delusional rant, trying to make things twist to what you say.

    You really need to take a Bex and lay down. It's obvious the pressure of supporting the worst politician in history and the most inept government since federation has gotten to you.

    I suppose if I had Tony's fist as far up my arse as you do, I'd be a little uncomfortable too.

    Now go get some tissues and dry your eyes sooky boy.
     
  19. Lynoman

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    What did he kick your arse again? Meh, see it every time you post. Nothing new.
     
  20. Jimbo

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    An ETS with a price of zero is nothing

    Apart from a few million in administration costs for zero outcome, of course...
     

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