Budget 2018

Discussion in 'Four Corners' started by I Bleed Maroon, May 8, 2018.

  1. Bandwagon

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    That's not a direction, anyways, I don't think that's the case. I think you'll find that revenue is rising, thus negating much of the "need" for spending restraint.
     
  2. Bandwagon

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    Obviously there needs to be some form of policing, anyway's it's not as if "centrelink" only handle the dole, when one sees how small of a percentage it is of our welfare budget, one would assume it creates a similar percentage of the entire workload.

    Not to mention the administration of medicare.
     
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  3. Smack

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    I'm against UBI, but would compromise if it meant cutting government waste
     
  4. Smack

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    It may be small, but it's the first area that should be looked at for budget cuts.

    Also I said minimal employees kept on to police the bludgers, but even cutting 20,000 jobs, for example, would be enough to offset those that slip through the cracks.
     
  5. RockWheel

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    but if people are already bludging now wouldn't less people to oversee this mean that more people could get away with it?
     
  6. TheVelourFog

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    who are these mysterious bludgers?

    Anecdotes on a postcard
     
  7. Smack

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    Finger prints
     
  8. RockWheel

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    look i read about them in the daily telegraph and i am a boomer and i am very scared
     
  9. TheVelourFog

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    stealing a quarter of a wage
     
  10. Bandwagon

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    Why?

    I think you really need to have a look at what the actual department numbers are, and what the roles and responsibilities of the department are.

    I reckon you'd soon work out that 20,000 is a ridiculous number.
     
  11. Smack

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    Why not?
    If you have the exact numbers, please share them. I'm only going off their annual reports.
     
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  12. Mong

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    Smack knows Centrelink....

    Hahaha
     
  13. Spanner in the works

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    That surplus is wafer thin. Minor turbulence in the economy, or even an election campaign, in the next 18 months will surely take care of that?

    I think it's also absurd for ScoMo to say the tax cuts must be passed, in full, by July 1. It's $140 billion dollars in foregone revenue over 10 years. $140 billion dollars. That's not small biccies. With a wafer thin surplus, a debt problem, no clear forecast on will happen in 18 months let alone 10 years, it would seem irresponsible to just say yes. (Add in the $65b from the company tax cuts to that figure too...)
     
  14. Bandwagon

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    When you think removing 20,000 positions is a good idea, "why not" is a pretty poor argument.


    What exact numbers do you want? If you've read the departments annual report you would know both how many employees they have, and a fair idea of the roles and responsibilities they have .

    You are advocating removal of around 60-65% of them, on the basis they administer the dole?

    If you have read a recent annual report, I don't think you could reasonably hold that stance unless you were living in some kind of f**ked up alternate universe.
     
  15. cerberus

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    Debt and defecit
    Watch and learn
    Underpants
     
  16. Game_Breaker

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    So cut the states budget and then we build less schools and hospitals

    Is that what you want?
     
  17. Surely

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    More money sloshing through the economy is a good thing not a negative
     
  18. Bandwagon

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    Absolutely.
    No better way to achieve that than to put it the hands of those most likely to spend it
     
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    At pubs too

    Jump on board for the big win soldier
     
  20. Surely

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    I'm on, I've never been against tax cuts.
     
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