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Was Walker Offside

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Too close to call, stay with on-field decision

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  1. Vee

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    You're right, looking at that pic, it is hard to say. Looking at the still they showed during the broadcast, it was quite clear to me he was marginally offside.
     
  2. OldPanther

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    I voted yes. I was sitting almost side on with it at the ground and thought he was offside at the time. It was pretty close though and would have not argued staying with the on field call.
     
  3. soc123_au

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    I thought he was offside, but I could have copped the bunker staying with a try. It was very close.
     
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  5. Vee

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    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...dylan-walker-was-offside-20170912-gyfw13.html

    The secret Hawk-Eye technology that shows Manly centre Dylan Walker was offside
    Andrew Webster

    Hawk-Eye technology secretly trialled during the Manly-Penrith match last Saturday night has revealed Sea Eagles centre Dylan Walker was offside – confirming the decision from the bunker to deny him a crucial try on the night.

    As debate about the video referee intensifies, the NRL has confirmed the virtual offside line that has been tested at select matches this season found Walker was slightly in front of Blake Green when a kick was put through.

    "We received the video this afternoon and it showed that Walker was offside, according to the technology," NRL general manager of innovation, Luke Gooden, told Fairfax Media.

    Walker was denied the try in the second half of the sudden-death finals match after he chased down a Green grubber and scored. The on-field officials considered it a try, but it was overturned by the video referee.

    The truth is the NRL has been working away at it all season. As revealed by Fairfax Media in March, the NRL has been working closely with Hawk-Eye experts. It had hoped to introduce the technology by round 13 this year.

    The idea has been raised at competition committee meetings and put in front of some coaches, but the feeling is the technology should not be used until it is 100 per cent accurateIndeed, the technology is much more complex than merely Photo-shopping a red line over a screen shot from a TV replay.

    "The first thought was you put a line on the screen like it has been done in other sports, but we worked out in rugby league it's a lot more complex for a lot of reasons," Gooden said. "The first part is that there aren't enough cameras. When soccer does it, it's generally around the penalty goal box. With rugby league, it's the whole hundred metres."

    The other issue at play is the offside ruling for kicks.

    "It's two feet behind the ball," Gooden said. "The referee's interpretation is that it's [in line] with the back of the ball. Then throw into the mix that when the player kicks it, his foot is off the ground."

    In other words, it's difficult to determine exactly when the kick has been placed.

    For these reasons, Gooden said the NRL wasn't prepared to rush through technology that wasn't quite ready. Given the heat the bunker has been wearing this year, that is understandable.

    "It works the majority of the time," he said. "But the times when it causes problems is when it is on the far side of the field and you're trying to see if the winger or centre is on-side because they get smaller in the image. The technology is telling you if it's on or off. The concern is it's not reflected in the image itself. The unanimous view is that it's not quite there. If we throw it in and it tells a 50-50 story for a try, it will cause more problems for the game."

    It's understood that some officials strongly oppose the introduction of the virtual offside line because the game is already strangled by too much technology.

    But if it is introduced in the future it will be the game's most significant technological advancement since the introduction of the video referee two decades ago.

    The technology was secretly trialled at the Auckland Nines and various NRL matches this season.

    It is different to the 10-metre offside line hyped in the pre-season by Fox Sports. That was to be used for entertainment purposes – but it is not entirely accurate.

    The NRL has been undergoing 3D scanning of all grounds because the camber of each playing surface has also proved problematic.

    You wouldn't dream it could be so difficult, would you?
     
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  6. SBD82

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    You must have taken a wrong turn on the way to a forum that encourages factual posts.
     
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  7. Surely

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    The secret technology they trialed earlier but didn't use because it's not accurate enough

    Lol you couldn't make that shit up
     
  8. OldPanther

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    It's now been proven

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...dylan-walker-was-offside-20170912-gyfw13.html
     
  9. kbw

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    Lots of close calls but most were correct.
    The only team really dudded were Parramatta.

    Flannagan is a serial whinger and wanker of the highest order. Its funny how he doesn't aknowledge the ones that go his way

    There is a problem with refereeing but thats been that way all year, doesn't make it right.
     
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  10. Perth Red

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    Days later people are still arguing for and against these decisions after numerous replays and still shots, yet we slam refs when they have to make a decision in the moment from the only angle they can see!
     
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    Is that I would bet my balls he was offside or I'm not going to risk my family jewels and say he is definitely offside ?
     
  14. Surely

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    Exactly, so when there is doubt shouldn't the decision be the one that was sent up to the kfc kitchen ?
     
  15. OldPanther

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    Yeah I was being lazy but it's one of those calls if it went against us I wouldn't be talking about it. It was a close call that I thought was offside watching at the game but could see it going the other way easily.
     
  16. Perth Red

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    You want to go back to benefit of the doubt? That worked well! I am more than happy for ref to make a decision based on what he and the other 3 refs thought they had seen, if there is video evidence to contrary overturn, if there isn't then you have to make a decision based on something, might as well be the 4 officials who were watching it at the time.
     
  17. Surely

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    Ftr I dislike manly but I'm speaking from a rules perspective.

    There was no conclusive evidence to overturn the onfield call so the refs call should have stood?
     
  18. T-Boon

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    Send it back so they can add more salt to the chips.
     
  19. OldPanther

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    That's how it's suppose to work. They obviously thought it was conclusive for whatever reason. It's one of those things a ref press conference would be good for. Have a limit of 5 questions or something and they can explain a few calls.
     
  20. Saxon

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    :oops:
    Yeah, my bad.
     
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