Florida school shooting

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  1. Smack

    Smack First Grade

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    Well it has been noted that he was bullied and has ADD, so I'm going to take a guess and say it was part of the problem. Which was my argument.
     
  2. Smack

    Smack First Grade

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    So what guns do you want to make less accessible, what is your solution?
     
  3. 2_Smoking_Guns

    2_Smoking_Guns First Grade

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    I don't have a solution. The solution lies with the Americans and I doubt they really want to do what would be required to solve the problem of gun accessibility. Any changes will be generational. Hopefully this young generation growing up in this era of near daily school shootings will be more accepting of serious changes and their children follow on from that. Right now though all they can really do is to try and force people to keep guns out of reach of children.
     
  4. Smack

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    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/p...g/news-story/544b82b202350063844248c1cd608179

    ‘Those were my kids in there’: Parkland deputy breaks his silence on school shooting

    THE deputy, who worked at the school where 17 people were shot dead in February, has insisted, “I would never have let my kids get slaughtered”.

    THE former sheriff’s deputy who’s been called a coward for his actions during a mass shooting at a Florida high school said he’s haunted by what happened, but he had no time to be scared because everything unfolded so quickly.

    “Those were my kids in there,” Scot Peterson said in an interview that aired on NBC’s Today Show.

    “I would have never sat there and let my kids get slaughtered. Never.”

    Peterson has been widely criticised since the February 14 massacre that left 17 people dead at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

    He resigned and retired from the Broward Sheriff’s Office eight days after the shooting when video surveillance footage showed him standing outside the building during the rampage.

    Peterson said he wants the families of those killed to know, “I didn’t get it right.”

    But he said it wasn’t because he was afraid to enter the building.

    “There was no time. Things went so fast,” he said. “I never thought for a moment about being scared or being a coward.”

    The gunman entered a building on campus at 2:21pm and began firing, authorities have said. He left six minutes later.

    Peterson was in his office in another building when he got reports of sounds of “firecrackers” on campus.

    He arrived at the building about 2:24pm, just as authorities say the suspected gunman was heading to the third floor. Six people were killed on the third floor, 11 on the first floor.

    Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter Jaime died on the third floor, said he believes she would be alive if Peterson had entered the building.

    “They are not his kids,” Guttenberg told WFOR-TV. “He didn’t go to a single funeral. He has not mourned a single child. He has not missed a single kid’s birthday. He is not going to miss Father’s Day. He didn’t miss Mother’s Day. He isn’t missing holidays. How dare he refer to them as his kids? They are not his kids. They are his victims.”

    Manuel Oliver, the father of slain 17-year-old student Joaquin Oliver, said during a news conference Tuesday that Peterson failed.

    Oliver’s wife, Patricia Oliver, accepted their son’s diploma Sunday, wearing a yellow T-shirt that said, “THIS should be my SON.”

    Andrew Pollack, the father of slain student Meadow Pollack, called Peterson a “coward,” but said discussing him was “not even worth it”.

    “We are going to focus on what we can do in the future,” said Pollack, who has become an outspoken advocate for school safety, including adding more armed guards.

    “Looking back is just toxic. Every day it is something new.”

    Nikolas Cruz, a 19-year-old former student, has been charged with 17 counts of first-degree murder in the attack.

    Lawyers have said he’ll plead guilty in exchange for a life prison sentence, but prosecutors are pursuing the death penalty.

    Peterson said that when he arrived outside the building, he immediately recognised the sounds as gunshots, not firecrackers.

    But, he added, it was difficult to tell where the shots were coming from. He said he thought about the Las Vegas concert shooting where a sniper was firing at the crowd from a hotel window.

    “I believed there was a sniper,” he said. “So in my mind, I’m thinking to myself there’s possibly maybe somebody in there shooting out. But I didn’t think they were shooting at the kids. I thought they were shooting out at the building.”

    When asked why he didn’t just go into the building to look for the shooter, Peterson said he did what his training called for.

    “I would have had to check obviously every classroom. You can’t just go willy-nilly and go: Let me look here; let me look there. You have to check each room,” he said.

    He said he was getting “no real-time intelligence whatsoever.”

    Peterson said there were conflicting reports on his radio and one report even had the shooter at the football field.

    Peterson said the mass shooting haunts him.

    “It’s easy for people to sit there and say, ‘He should have known that person was up there.”’ “It wasn’t easy,” he said. “I’m never going to get over this.”

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    I didn't do my job because it would've been too hard, so instead I let kids die. I'm not a coward because trump called me a coward and all the anti trumpistas on 4c said I'm not a coward because they will take the position contrary to trump xD
     
  5. Mong

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    #Shitpost

    #Troll
     
  6. Pete Cash

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    i see some sensible hoggwatcher had David Hogg swatted.

    now i remember based on this forum logic that making people on the opposite side of politics "be fuming" is good. so obviously by that standard this kid is a genius
     
  7. myrrh ken

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    Sounds like 11 kids were already dead by the time he got there. Whether he could have saved the other 6 kids is questionable. But by all means blame this fella for all of their deaths.

    This is what happens when you rely on the good guys with guns solution.
     
  8. Danish

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    You’d think this guy would just want to slink into obscurity, but here he is putting the spotlight back on himself thinkin he can to dig his way out of that hole
     
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  9. mrx

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    The question isn't why isn't the USA banning guns, it's "what is driving these kids to do this in the first place"

    Is it a poor culture in US schools?

    If guns were banned, these kids would be merely lashing out in different means..
     
  10. Pete Cash

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    So what is different from American and Australian schools
     

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