Florida school shooting

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  1. Jimbo

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    You appear to want to disagree
     
  2. Bandwagon

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    Nah, that's you attempting to put a positive spin on it.
     
  3. t-ba

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    How easy it to build a strawman with cum bubbles as a bonding agent?
     
  4. Jimbo

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    You're the expert

    You tell us
     
  5. t-ba

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    I don't know if I am expert on identifying your cum bubble laden strawmen, but I will give it a go!

    It's easy, I see the poster whose name means nasal cum bubbles posting strawmen. Quite simple really.
     
  6. Smack

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    what a weak merkin to kill his own kids
     
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  7. Mong

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    :joy::joy:

    Now that’s defs inconvenient for jimmies argument.

    Lolz
     
  8. Mong

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    Yep

    I don’t really understand why anyone is bothered by not a lot of discussion on this, what else is there to say?
     
  9. Bandwagon

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    Yeah despite Bubble Boy's dumb arsed comment, this isn't a gun issue in the manner of the US' issues with guns.

    Which is not to say that this has nothing to do with guns, clearly it does, but from the scant facts we know I believe this and the other seemingly similar incidents over the last year or so are more domestic violence issues than anything else.

    There are likely some solutions around gun control that would have made a difference here in terms of the shooting, but I'm in agreeance with @Surely 's earlier post that this kind of thing would likely have happened guns or not. Quite unlike the instances of school shootings this thread discuss', as remove the gun from those situations, and it's inarguable that there is a different result.
     
  10. Mong

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    Lol bubble boy.. I must have missed that develop into a thing.

    Seems appropriate though.

    :joy::joy:
     
  11. Bandwagon

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    It's just a natural progression for mine.
     
  12. Mong

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    #bully

    :joy::joy:
     
  13. myrrh ken

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    How killer dad got hold of guns to murder teens
    JULY 11, 2018A FATHER who shot dead his two teenage children used a permit from the police firearms registry to start handgun training despite repeatedly failing checks at local gun clubs.

    John Edwards successfully applied for what is known as a “Commissioner’s Permit” from the firearms registry which had the power to override concerns about his history flagged by a standard application.

    It is understood the registry had no legislative capacity to deny Mr Edwards a Commissioner’s permit because an apprehended violence order on his record was more than 10 years old, although it could have knocked him back on a discretionary basis.

    NSW Police outside a property in Normanhurst in Sydney where John Edwards killed himself.
    MORE NEWS:

    Murdered West Pennant Hills siblings Jack and Jennifer Edwards

    John Edwards turned away from shooting clubs due to ‘serious concerns’

    Edwards, 68, shot dead his son Jack, 15, and daughter Jennifer, 13, as they cowered in their West Pennant Hills home on Thursday before turning the gun on himself at his own home in Normanhurst.

    Edwards was rejected from joining Ku-Ring-Gai Pistol Club in 2017 due in part to responses on his joining application, known as a P650 form. The form compels unlicensed shooters to declare if other clubs had refused them entry, whether they had a criminal past or if an AVO had been taken out against them in the last 10 years.

    Edwards is also believed to have applied unsuccessfully to other clubs.

    He was granted a Commissioner’s Permit and successfully started training at St Mary’s Indoor Shooting Centre, the first step to becoming a licenced gun owner.

    It is understood Edwards passed further checks which allowed him to buy the guns he used to murder his children.

    Jack, 15, and Jennifer Edwards, 13 were gunned down by their father.
    Shooters Fishers and Farmers MP Robert Borsak said the system had failed.

    “He is not unique in that he applied for a licence with an expired AVO and ongoing domestic issues,” Mr Borsak said.

    “And after he got his full licence he then applied and got two PTAs, permissions to acquire.”

    The St Marys club expressed their condolences for the tragedy and said all licensing decisions were decided by the registry.

    “Management, staff and volunteers of the Centre join with the community in expressing our deepest condolences to family and friends affected by this shocking event,” the statement said.

    “Privacy obligations do not permit the Centre to publicly disclose the details of individual applications, other than to say they are assessed and processed in strict accordance with the legal requirements overseen by the NSW Police Firearms Registry. Ultimately, all licence decisions are taken by the Registry.

    People mourn outside the West Pennant Hills home, which became a crime scene. Picture: John Grainger
    “The Centre is ensuring that its staff and volunteers who have been affected by this event are provided with appropriate counselling and support.”

    If you or someone you know is in crisis or needs support right now, please call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or BeyondBlue on 1300 224 636. If it is an emergency please call 000.

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    A FATHER who shot dead his two teenage children used a permit from the police firearms registry to start handgun training despite repeatedly failing checks at local gun clubs.

    John Edwards successfully applied for what is known as a “Commissioner’s Permit” from the firearms registry which had the power to override concerns about his history flagged by a standard application.

    It is understood the registry had no legislative capacity to deny Mr Edwardsa Commissioner’s permit because an apprehended violence order on his record was more than 10 years old, although it could have knocked him back on a discretionary basis.

    NSW Police outside a property in Normanhurst in Sydney where John Edwards killed himself.
    MORE NEWS:

    Murdered West Pennant Hills siblings Jack and Jennifer Edwards

    John Edwards turned away from shooting clubs due to ‘serious concerns’

    Edwards, 68, shot dead his son Jack, 15, and daughter Jennifer, 13, as they cowered in their West Pennant Hills home on Thursday before turning the gun on himself at his own home in Normanhurst.

    Edwards was rejected from joining Ku-Ring-Gai Pistol Club in 2017 due in part to responses on his joining application, known as a P650 form. The form compels unlicensed shooters to declare if other clubs had refused them entry, whether they had a criminal past or if an AVO had been taken out against them in the last 10 years.

    Edwards is also believed to have applied unsuccessfully to other clubs.

    He was granted a Commissioner’s Permit and successfully started training at St Mary’s Indoor Shooting Centre, the first step to becoming a licenced gun owner.

    It is understood Edwards passed further checks which allowed him to buy the guns he used to murder his children.

    Jack, 15, and Jennifer Edwards, 13 were gunned down by their father.
    Shooters Fishers and Farmers MP Robert Borsak said the system had failed.

    “He is not unique in that he applied for a licence with an expired AVO and ongoing domestic issues,” Mr Borsak said.

    “And after he got his full licence he then applied and got two PTAs, permissions to acquire.”

    The St Marys club expressed their condolences for the tragedy and said all licensing decisions were decided by the registry.

    “Management, staff and volunteers of the Centre join with the community in expressing our deepest condolences to family and friends affected by this shocking event,” the statement said.

    “Privacy obligations do not permit the Centre to publicly disclose the details of individual applications, other than to say they are assessed and processed in strict accordance with the legal requirements overseen by the NSW Police Firearms Registry. Ultimately, all licence decisions are taken by the Registry.

    People mourn outside the West Pennant Hills home, which became a crime scene. Picture: John Grainger
    “The Centre is ensuring that its staff and volunteers who have been affected by this event are provided with appropriate counselling and support.”

    If you or someone you know is in crisis or needs support right now, please call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or BeyondBlue on 1300 224 636. If it is an emergency please call 000.



    So the bloke had an AVO and got denied from shooting clubs, but still managed to get a gun via a special permit
     
  14. Jimbo

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    Ridiculous

    Whoever gave him that permit should have a few pointed questions to answer
     
  15. Bandwagon

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    What is the process there?

    Seems all over the f**king shop.
     
  16. Smack

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    Are you talking about the copy paste job with shitty formatting?

    :D
     
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  17. Bandwagon

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    Well, there is that, but no
     
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  18. myrrh ken

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    click the link ya lazy prick. i dunno why copy paste doesn't like quotation marks.
     
  19. Smack

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    How killer dad got hold of guns to murder teens
    JULY 11, 2018

    A FATHER who shot dead his two teenage children used a permit from the police firearms registry to start handgun training despite repeatedly failing checks at local gun clubs.

    John Edwards successfully applied for what is known as a “Commissioner’s Permit” from the firearms registry which had the power to override concerns about his history flagged by a standard application.

    It is understood the registry had no legislative capacity to deny Mr Edwardsa Commissioner’s permit because an apprehended violence order on his record was more than 10 years old, although it could have knocked him back on a discretionary basis.

    NSW Police outside a property in Normanhurst in Sydney where John Edwards killed himself.

    MORE NEWS:

    Murdered West Pennant Hills siblings Jack and Jennifer Edwards

    John Edwards turned away from shooting clubs due to ‘serious concerns’

    Edwards, 68, shot dead his son Jack, 15, and daughter Jennifer, 13, as they cowered in their West Pennant Hills home on Thursday before turning the gun on himself at his own home in Normanhurst.

    Edwards was rejected from joining Ku-Ring-Gai Pistol Club in 2017 due in part to responses on his joining application, known as a P650 form. The form compels unlicensed shooters to declare if other clubs had refused them entry, whether they had a criminal past or if an AVO had been taken out against them in the last 10 years.

    Edwards is also believed to have applied unsuccessfully to other clubs.

    He was granted a Commissioner’s Permit and successfully started training at St Mary’s Indoor Shooting Centre, the first step to becoming a licenced gun owner.

    It is understood Edwards passed further checks which allowed him to buy the guns he used to murder his children.

    Jack, 15, and Jennifer Edwards, 13 were gunned down by their father.

    Shooters Fishers and Farmers MP Robert Borsak said the system had failed.

    “He is not unique in that he applied for a licence with an expired AVO and ongoing domestic issues,” Mr Borsak said.

    “And after he got his full licence he then applied and got two PTAs, permissions to acquire.”

    The St Marys club expressed their condolences for the tragedy and said all licensing decisions were decided by the registry.

    “Management, staff and volunteers of the Centre join with the community in expressing our deepest condolences to family and friends affected by this shocking event,” the statement said.

    “Privacy obligations do not permit the Centre to publicly disclose the details of individual applications, other than to say they are assessed and processed in strict accordance with the legal requirements overseen by the NSW Police Firearms Registry. Ultimately, all licence decisions are taken by the Registry.

    People mourn outside the West Pennant Hills home, which became a crime scene. Picture: John Grainger

    “The Centre is ensuring that its staff and volunteers who have been affected by this event are provided with appropriate counselling and support.”

    If you or someone you know is in crisis or needs support right now, please call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or BeyondBlue on 1300 224 636. If it is an emergency please call 000.
     
  20. Smack

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    @myrrh ken

    you can just copy paste into a word editor, then copy paste that here. I use libre office.
     

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