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Future NRL Stadiums

Timbo

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I think going forward if we are going to have these three super stadiums in Sydney we're going to need to look at artificial or hybrid surfaces.

Allianz turf is an absolute mess at the moment. I know all this rain isn't helping, but it's only the beginning of a long season. The fact that it gets used all year with soccer, union and league can't help. But new Parramatta will be in the same boat (if a second league team moves in) and ANZ is the only one that doesn't see summer action since cricket moved across the road.
 

Timbo

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ANZ will have a roof

I think the overuse as more teams call it home will be an issue.

They also had a massive problem with the turf in Dunedin, it grows poorly under the clear roof. They had to replace it with a hybrid synthetic/natural turf.
 
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siv

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I think the overuse as more teams call it home will be an issue.

They also had a massive problem with the turf in Dunedin, it grows poorly under the clear roof. They had to replace it with a hybrid synthetic/natural turf.

Did the Dogs v Warriors game get played on that artificial turf ?
 

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Did the Dogs v Warriors game get played on that artificial turf ?

No, well, kinda. It's basically like a carpet of artificial grass that makes up about 20% of the surface area, and the real grass knits to it to help it grow.
 

El Diablo

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the AFL flog is getting worse

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/spo...-government-lease-change-20170406-gvfci6.html

Canberra Stadium in danger of being left behind after ACT government lease change

Canberra Stadium is in danger of being left in the dark ages as a national sporting venue after ACT chief minister Andrew Barr revealed future upgrades needed to be funded by the Australian Sports Commission.

In the latest twist to Canberra's stadium saga, the ACT government is now paying $350,000 to rent the venue from the commission after a long-standing $1 peppercorn lease recently ended.

Barr said the change of rental investment meant the ACT government was unlikely to invest in the capital's premier rectangular venue "because we're only a tenant".

In the past, the ACT government has injected significant funding, including $5 million three years ago, to keep Canberra Stadium up to minimum industry standards.

Canberra sports fans had hoped a new stadium with a roof would be built in Civic by 2025.

That appears unlikely as the government foots the bill for light rail and the Mr Fluffy clean up, and Barr said two weeks ago a $350 million stadium would only be viable if Canberra had an A-League team.


Canberra Stadium is already one of the oldest used by the NRL and Australian Super Rugby teams, and the Canberra Raiders and ACT Brumbies are keen for a new venue to be built to help lure crowds back to the stands.

The stadium is owned by the Australian Sports Commission, the federal government representative body for sport.

The ACT government will still collect revenue from stadium parking and sponsorship, including the naming-rights deal with GIO believed to be worth $350,000.

That deal expires at the end of 2017 but there is a clause for GIO to extend its partnership until 2021.

The Mal Meninga grandstand is nearing the end of its lifespan and there is minimal undercover seating for Canberra supporters who suffer during the cold NRL and Super Rugby seasons.

Ongoing upgrades will be needed if the capital wants to host international events in the future. Australia will play New Zealand in Canberra in an Anzac rugby league Test in May while the Wallabies will play Argentina in September.

"We rent the facility. The sports commission had previously given us the rent at a peppercorn rate, so $1 per year," Barr said.

"[Because of the $1 lease] we took responsibility for all of the maintenance and infrastructure at the stadium.

"The sports commission have now determined to charge the ACT government around $350,000 per year in rental for that facility.

"Our expectation is that the sports commission, the owner of the facility, will take on greater responsibility for the maintenance of the facility given we are now paying full freight rent.

"It's difficult for us to make significant further investments in assets we don't own."

Any upgrades funded by the sports commission would require federal government money.

The ACT government will continue to invest in upgrades at Manuka Oval, which will host a historic cricket Test in 2018-19, because it owns the facility.

Manuka Oval is only used five times per year for national sporting events while Canberra Stadium hosts 12 NRL games and seven or eight Super Rugby games per season.

The commission said in a statement: "The ASC and the ACT Government have a long standing lease arrangement in relation to the stadium

"The ASC will continue to work closely with the ACT Government in relation to matters of mutual interest including facilities."

The commission is also still considering a major revamp of the AIS Arena, which would transform Canberra's best indoor venue into a volleyball specific arena.

The commission is yet to make a decision on the future direction of the AIS Arena but it is hoped it will remain as a multi-purpose sporting, exhibition and concert venue.

It is unclear if there will be A-League content in Canberra next season after the Central Coast Mariners played two games in the capital this season.

A government spokesperson said: "The territory has received no further proposal to date from the Mariners regarding the potential for games to be played in Canberra next season."
 

The Marshall

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Looks like the dogs plan on making Belmore have artificial turf at some time in the future.

News No Belmore Multicultural Arts and Sports Facility in sight
IT’S been four years since the Federal Government committed to the proposed Multicultural Arts and Sports Facility at Belmore, but not a single brick has been laid.

The arts aspect of the site would feature a 2km “arts walk” linking the site at Belmore Sports Ground to the Belmore town centre. It would also feature a visual arts space with a 640-seat grandstand and multipurpose arts space with a 900-seat grandstand.

For sport, the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs Club hopes to improve the Belmore Sports Facility by building a 25m pool, a multipurpose room, change rooms, gym, theatre and lecture room and upgrading the field to artificial turf.

At last week’s meeting, Canterbury-Bankstown Council agreed to commence a masterplan.

In 2013, the Federal Government pledged $4 million towards the project while the Bulldogs Club and Sydney Olympic FC have committed $1 million each. The former Canterbury Council committed $1.5 million but, although the merged council supports the project in principal no budget allocation has been made.

Assuming the merged council went on to later honour the $1.5 million commitment, the funding would still be $5.6 million short of the $13.1 million needed to bring it to fruition.

The State Government is yet to commit any money towards the project. A NSW Government Office of Sport spokesman confirmed a funding announcement was not on the horizon.

“The Office of Sport does not have funding available to support the project at this time,” he said. “Any consideration of funding ... would require a detailed business case.”

A spokesman for advocacy group Back to Belmore urged the State Government to pledge funding.

“It’s deeply disappointing that the initial funding announcement was made almost four years ago by the then Gillard Labor Government and not a single sod has been turned on this pivotal project,” he said.


“The facility will benefit the Canterbury-Bankstown area immensely by providing a much-needed outlet for our culturally diverse community to empower people to have fun and get active.”

A Bulldogs spokesman said the club could not comment on the proposal at this time.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...t/news-story/8f1bd5629722aad08fda36a261b89625
 
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...r/news-story/4f2aa21847982ca662d332c6947144fa

IT’S billions of dollars of investment in new stadiums that sports-mad Sydneysiders have been crying out for.

But there are accusations the State Government could be sacrificing NSW jobs to pay for new NSW stadiums. A new arena in Parramatta, in Sydney’s west, and an upgrade to the ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park, depend on the sale of a government-owned department to the private sector.

Labor claims an external review of the soon to be privatised NSW Land and Property Information office (LPI) amounted to the engagement of a “razor gang” to provide a “playbook” about how private companies can slash costs by outsourcing staff. The more money can be saved, Labor say, the more money the Government can sell the division for.

The Government says the review, which was due to report its findings last week, was “routine” and aimed to “improve service levels and efficiency”.

On Thursday, bids closed for the 35 year-lease of the LPI, the organisation that houses the records of every single property in the state. Bidders are likely to include private equity and financial giants including Carlyle Group, Westpac and First State Super.

The Government is selling off the unit, otherwise known as the land titles registry, for a hoped $2 billion windfall.

That money is planned to go towards major infrastructure projects including the new Western Sydney Stadium where Parramatta Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers will play. Demolition work at the site in Parramatta for the new stadium has already begun.

Meanwhile, the historic LPI building — overlooking the CBD’s Hyde Park — could see its public sector staff kicked out in favour of hotel guests.

Labor says a tender document reveals the NSW Government is spending taxpayers’ money on outside consultants to pave the way for new private owners to cut costs — helping them recoup some of the $2 billion asking price.


The document, from February, states the Government has embarked on a review of LPI’s call centre operations despite the fact they will soon be relinquishing control of the organisation.
The Government has previously said the 400 jobs at the LPI unit being privatised, mostly based in Sydney and Bathurst, would be safe for four years. But, being contractors, most of the staff in the call centre are not subject to the Government’s jobs pledge.

There have also been claims even the 400 jobs secured may not be as solid as first reckoned. Fairfax has reported that a concession deed regarding the sale, marked “Sensitive: NSW Cabinet,” does not stipulate that those jobs needed to be physically located in NSW raising the prospect that roles could move interstate or even overseas which would likely lead to resignations. The Government has insisted that is not the case.

The review, by consultancy firm Fifth Quadrant, was due to report its findings last Friday, the day after bids for LPI closed.

Fifth Quadrant, that will receive at least $157,000 for the work, states on its website that it has “specialist expertise in managing tender processes for outsourcing of contact centres”.
In 2012, a Fifth Quadrant staff member spoke to the ABC about the benefits of international call centres serving Australian customers.

“The Philippines, as an option for customer contact communication, offers a relatively neutral English accent and a good cultural alignment relative to the Indian destination, where the accent is less neutral,” the staff member said.

“Sending in the razor gang to cut to ribbons to our wonderful land registry and sack dozens of highly-skilled workers before sending their jobs offshore, at the taxpayers’ expense, is not what the people of NSW signed on for,” he told news.com.au.

“It is incredible that the Government is spending taxpayers’ money on selling something that no-one wants them to sell. This money would have been better spent on our schools and hospitals if only this Premier would give up on this ridiculous idea of selling our crown jewel,” said Mr Barr.

A spokesman for the Department of Finance, Services and Innovation said it was actually the staff who oversee the centre who were the driving force behind the review.

“The LPI executive, who will transfer to the new operator, are proactively considering opportunities for innovation and service delivery enhancement in the new operating mode.

“LPI routinely conducts operational reviews to improve service levels and efficiency.”

The review would provide the regulator with a “baseline” for current operations, he said.

“There is a four-year job guarantee for all LPI staff as per the enabling legislation. This includes the three LPI employees who currently supervise call centre operations. The jobs must remain in NSW during that time.”

The Department confirmed that after the four year period, the new owners would be free to make any changes they wished to staffing, albeit with the approval of the regulator.

As the majority of the call centre staff were contractors the Government could not make any guarantee on their jobs as they were not employed in the public sector.



pathetic by the Government
 

PaulyTom

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Ch9 news tonight had images of the new Homebush stadium and it showed photos of both an AFL and rectangular option.

Please tell me they are not veering away from the 2016 plan which was a truly rectangular stadium with steep stands so every seat is close to the action.

If AFl have their fingers in the pie turning this stadium into an oval I will be truly pissed off like most of Sydney.

 
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Ch9 news tonight had images of the new Homebush stadium and it showed photos of both an AFL and rectangular option.

Please tell me they are not veering away from the 2016 plan which was a truly rectangular stadium with steep stands so every seat is close to the action.

If AFl have their fingers in the pie turning this stadium into an oval I will be truly pissed off like most of Sydney.


I noticed that as well. It even had the AFL logo on the turf when shown in oval mode. Please no.
 

GAZF

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Looks like its the old plan with Olympic Park logos. The newer plan had ANZ stadium branding all over it.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Ch9 news tonight had images of the new Homebush stadium and it showed photos of both an AFL and rectangular option.

Please tell me they are not veering away from the 2016 plan which was a truly rectangular stadium with steep stands so every seat is close to the action.

If AFl have their fingers in the pie turning this stadium into an oval I will be truly pissed off like most of Sydney.


Thats old footage, i remember that from a long time back

Edit: there you go, its from back in 2014...

http://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=551

(im sure thats why they cut through them so quickly. If they had the newer designs, im sure they would have stayed on them longer)
 

unforgiven

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What a disgrace by ch9. Doing a "Exclusive " you want to make sure you get the information correct .

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Not really, the story was about the lease of the housing authority not the stadiums, they just used stock vision they had of the stadiums as that is what the money is going to be used for. They actually have a billion $ more than they have allocated to the stadiums, which I found interesting.
 
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