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Hasler Sacked!

sammythesaint

Juniors
Messages
101
come the the DRAGONS Dessie!!
Why the admiration for hasler.
Any admiration is a knee jerk desperate call for help that hasler will not fix if he comes.
He is more of what we already have.
A dinosaur.

Yes, once upon a time he was a decent coach.
But Maguire, Henry and Hasler, these three have allowed the game, winning new tactics and strategies to pass them by.
FFS, Hasler scraped into the 8 last year, got smashed once they did play in the finals, and this year did LESS than frigging useless Mary. With a better roster.

Maguire treats players with a couldnt care less attitude.
Examples. Letting GI stay on the field and nearly crippling the guy, releasing very good players like Ben Teo and Walker to sign up over paid Sam Burgess.
Well that all worked didnt it.

And his win loss over the past 2 to 3 years is 35%.
Laughable.....

Forget these has beens.....Mary is no worse than any of those.

You want a coach who finished behind us ...because once upon a time they were ok?!
Well dont.....we need fresh face with new exciting ideas.....none of those damn dinosaurs whose teams ALL finished behind us.

Wake up guys.....
 

JDHD

Juniors
Messages
1,082
Why the admiration for hasler.
Any admiration is a knee jerk desperate call for help that hasler will not fix if he comes.
He is more of what we already have.
A dinosaur.

Yes, once upon a time he was a decent coach.
But Maguire, Henry and Hasler, these three have allowed the game, winning new tactics and strategies to pass them by.
FFS, Hasler scraped into the 8 last year, got smashed once they did play in the finals, and this year did LESS than frigging useless Mary. With a better roster.

Maguire treats players with a couldnt care less attitude.
Examples. Letting GI stay on the field and nearly crippling the guy, releasing very good players like Ben Teo and Walker to sign up over paid Sam Burgess.
Well that all worked didnt it.

And his win loss over the past 2 to 3 years is 35%.
Laughable.....

Forget these has beens.....Mary is no worse than any of those.

You want a coach who finished behind us ...because once upon a time they were ok?!
Well dont.....we need fresh face with new exciting ideas.....none of those damn dinosaurs whose teams ALL finished behind us.

Wake up guys.....

I think I love you
 

Life's Good

Coach
Messages
13,971
Why the admiration for hasler.
Any admiration is a knee jerk desperate call for help that hasler will not fix if he comes.
He is more of what we already have.
A dinosaur.

Yes, once upon a time he was a decent coach.
But Maguire, Henry and Hasler, these three have allowed the game, winning new tactics and strategies to pass them by.
FFS, Hasler scraped into the 8 last year, got smashed once they did play in the finals, and this year did LESS than frigging useless Mary. With a better roster.

Maguire treats players with a couldnt care less attitude.
Examples. Letting GI stay on the field and nearly crippling the guy, releasing very good players like Ben Teo and Walker to sign up over paid Sam Burgess.
Well that all worked didnt it.

And his win loss over the past 2 to 3 years is 35%.
Laughable.....

Forget these has beens.....Mary is no worse than any of those.

You want a coach who finished behind us ...because once upon a time they were ok?!
Well dont.....we need fresh face with new exciting ideas.....none of those damn dinosaurs whose teams ALL finished behind us.

Wake up guys.....
Ok then. Who would you have??
 
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People want B Smith and he is a bigger dinosaur then Hasler.

Henry has done sfa of late.

Maguire and Hasler both become very unwelcomed at their clubs.

Who does that leave some one like Brennan and people said no more rookie coaches.
 

Dragon Blood

Juniors
Messages
765
So Souths don't make the 8 and they sack Madge
Bulldogs don't make the 8 and the sack Des
We don't make the 8 and we give Mary a two extension !!!

Personally I would 100% take Des or Madge .
We could have Madge as coach and Hasler as assistant, bet we'll still only be a fringe top side next year with the current crop of players in the 2,3,4&5 jumpers

I hope I'm wrong but I think we're stuck with Mary until at least the end of 2018
 

Life's Good

Coach
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13,971
Jason D over anyone in the market - the guy wins
Totally agree BUT he is a rookie and plenty don't want that(I would because like Paul Green, JD has pedigree. Anyway, JD is rumoured to be in the running for the Titans).
 

sammythesaint

Juniors
Messages
101
Jason D with out any second thought.
It will not happen, but it needs to.

All great coaches had one year as their first in charge.

Go back and check out first and second year coaching records of the great coaches, it shows a new coach can have great success if they have a strong background in coaching teams in other grades and competitions.

JD is prime.

Other than JD, if its not Bellamy, Greene, Creeping, Cleary or even Flano.... I couldn't give a damn.

If mary stays.....pray that Hunt and Graham lead us powerfully on field and call the shots.
 

Crush

Coach
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10,506
DA61, l'm being selfish l know but l just want something to look forward to next year. We have the roster, just not the direction. The one main ingredient to make this work is missing.

At least, right now, everything is still up in the air so we can only dream.

Reality may only be around the corner.
The one main ingredient to make this work is missing? Do you mean a new 2,3,4,5? Because our current 2,3,4,5 are the worst in the comp.....
 

grouch

First Grade
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Only four coaches in the history of the modern game have more finals wins than Hasler. Wayne Bennett. Jack Gibson. Craig Bellamy. Tim Sheens. These 4 are virtually the Immortals of coaching.

Hasler turned Manly from a basket case into a premiership powerhouse - with two premierships to boot. He then departed Manly within weeks of a premiership - no coach has ever left a club the same year they won a grand final with them

He then took the Bulldogs to 2 grand finals in 3 seasons - they had reached just 1 in the previous 13. Their second grand final contained a spine of Sam Perrett, Trent Hodkinson and Josh Reynolds. These blokes reached a grand final!

These are facts. He is objectively a great coach.

Now..


We know the Dragons are run like a suburban bowlo. They have no money, and rely on NRL handouts. We can't afford to sack McGregor and pay him out. However... we have shown that when the absolute top echelon of coaches are available (Bennett/Bellamy) that external third-party benefactors are willing to contribute cash to lure those people. I'm saying that Des Hasler fits this bill completely.

Wind back the clock to 2008. Nathan Brown may well have been extended for eternity. He was improving, they had injury and player excuses etc etc. Wayne Bennett was suddenly on the outer at Brisbane, they had suffered a poor 2007, there was managerial change and he was on the nose. Hell, people were saying the same things about him as they do about Hasler now! Past it! Boring palying style! Screwed the club! Despite winning a comp just a year or two prior. Several clubs actually turned him down - the Cowboys and Dogs among them. We brought him in and the rest ishistory.

The parallels are definitely there imo. f**k,James Graham could even be his Darius. Approach him today!
 

sammythesaint

Juniors
Messages
101
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Only four coaches in the history of the modern game have more finals wins than Hasler. Wayne Bennett. Jack Gibson. Craig Bellamy. Tim Sheens. These 4 are virtually the Immortals of coaching.

Hasler turned Manly from a basket case into a premiership powerhouse - with two premierships to boot. He then departed Manly within weeks of a premiership - no coach has ever left a club the same year they won a grand final with them

He then took the Bulldogs to 2 grand finals in 3 seasons - they had reached just 1 in the previous 13. Their second grand final contained a spine of Sam Perrett, Trent Hodkinson and Josh Reynolds. These blokes reached a grand final!

These are facts. He is objectively a great coach.

Now..


We know the Dragons are run like a suburban bowlo. They have no money, and rely on NRL handouts. We can't afford to sack McGregor and pay him out. However... we have shown that when the absolute top echelon of coaches are available (Bennett/Bellamy) that external third-party benefactors are willing to contribute cash to lure those people. I'm saying that Des Hasler fits this bill completely.

Wind back the clock to 2008. Nathan Brown may well have been extended for eternity. He was improving, they had injury and player excuses etc etc. Wayne Bennett was suddenly on the outer at Brisbane, they had suffered a poor 2007, there was managerial change and he was on the nose. Hell, people were saying the same things about him as they do about Hasler now! Past it! Boring palying style! Screwed the club! Despite winning a comp just a year or two prior. Several clubs actually turned him down - the Cowboys and Dogs among them. We brought him in and the rest ishistory.

The parallels are definitely there imo. f**k,James Graham could even be his Darius. Approach him today!

That is all history, Haslers record 2015, 16 and 17 is awful.

What he did previously is ancient history.

We would not sign a player who was out of form for THREE years.

Nor a coach.

He is yesterdays hero.
 

grouch

First Grade
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That is all history, Haslers record 2015, 16 and 17 is awful.

What he did previously is ancient history.

We would not sign a player who was out of form for THREE years.

Nor a coach.

He is yesterdays hero.
People said similar things about Bennett. Clubs turned him down with the same misguided stupid scorn you've shown.

He still made the finals in 2 of those 3 years in which his form was apparently "awful". Lol.. what a joke of a post. If McGregor did that he'd have a job here for life.
 

Coffs dragon

Bench
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My coaching tips for 2018:
Hasler - NSW Origin
Maguire - Titans
Pay - Bulldogs
Brennan - Warrington
Mary McKnobhead - Dragons in another groundhog year
Daley/Henry - Assistants somewhere or unemployed
 

sammythesaint

Juniors
Messages
101
People said similar things about Bennett. Clubs turned him down with the same misguided stupid scorn you've shown.

He still made the finals in 2 of those 3 years in which his form was apparently "awful". Lol.. what a joke of a post. If McGregor did that he'd have a job here for life.
No one turned bennett down.

The reason the cowboys turned him down was Tallis was inside the cowboys club and told the club not to sign Bennett.....because tallis is a vengeful dick still smarting from being benched in his last game he played at the broncos

No one else turned bennett down.

Haslers record over the past three years is no better than marys, bennett never sunk that low. Never.

Haslers style is more boring than marys, his communication skillls are cave man like, he has no plan B....same as mary.

It hasnt been a one year blip, its three years now....hasler is finished.

Boring, plain, simple strategies he employs is straight out if steve price and marys note book.

Yeahhh.....lets take another loser.

Nope.....time for a fresh face.....JD.
 

sammythesaint

Juniors
Messages
101
My coaching tips for 2018:
Hasler - NSW Origin
Maguire - Titans
Pay - Bulldogs
Brennan - Warrington
Mary McKnobhead - Dragons in another groundhog year
Daley/Henry - Assistants somewhere or unemployed
If hasler gets the nsw job......may as well give the cane toads the trophy now.
Unless scoring 8 points a game can win a series.
Boring, dull, hit it up for 5 then kick.....puleasseee!
 

Coffs dragon

Bench
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If hasler gets the nsw job......may as well give the cane toads the trophy now.
Unless scoring 8 points a game can win a series.
Boring, dull, hit it up for 5 then kick.....puleasseee!
Doesn't matter as QLD have the far better players in the all important 1,6,7 & 9 positions. An interesting stat revealed this week....QLD used 27 players in this years series and of those players 21 still feature in the Finals series. NSW used 17 players and yet only 3 appear in this years 4 team Finals series. So in essence it doesn't matter who coaches NSW we are screwed until the right players are selected and some QLD LEGENDS retire!!
 
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