How many coaches are we going to go through before you guys give it up?

[Swiftstylez]

You are now praising Brian Smith at Newcastle when everyone wanted him gone from here a few years ago. He then finally gave in to the pressure. Hagan is going to end up going and we will get a new coach, and we will have as equally as bad performances.

So when does it stop? Are you all going to just keep blaming the coach until you finally realize that there are other factors:

-Players aren't performing
-sh*t management
-Unrelenting pressure from demanding fans
-Cases of circumstance (HAGAN HAS BEEN HERE TWO YEARS, THIS YEAR THE TEAM HAS NOT PERFORMED. HIS FIRST YEAR THEY DID. YOU CAN'T WIN EVERY YEAR)...

Tim Smith didn't leave because of Hagan, he left because of you guys. The fans of Parramatta do not harbor a good culture, generally speaking. Sure he had problems but honestly, he is dealing with them fine elsewhere. The management doesn't harbor a good culture by the sounds of things too. They demand too much and too fast. 2007 we did fine, no one compares to Melbourne. 2008 was a hopeless year but honestly, move on and build a bridge. Everyone has them. I don't think it was THAT pathetic either, we just didn't live up to our expectations.

Eventually no one is going to want to coach anyway.

Parramatta = Coaching Suicide. Approach at caution.

Sure Hagan has to have some responsibility, but you can't just point fingers at him in particular.

 

[Suitman]

ffs. Would you please stop posting here, Mrs Hagan.

Suity

 

[The Colonel]

Are you leaving?

Are you all going to just keep blaming the coach until you finally realize that there are other factors

You must have missed the bit where we are aware of the players underperforming and lack of decent management.

You may have missed that as coach Hagan is responsible for dropping under performers and promoting those doing a good job. He selects the team every week and when the team doesn't improve it is up to him to make improvements. They haven't happened so while we are aware of the need for new players in some areas when the coach allows those players to leave and doesn't improve the roster then like management he too needs to go.

 

[Swiftstylez]

..

No I'm not leaving, are you Mrs and Miss Smith?


You must have had family issues though when Brian was here. You were pretty quick to turn your back on him.

But now you see the grass isn't greener on the other side, and you are one big loving family again.

 

[The Colonel]

Not too many people want Smith back either.

 

[Suitman]

..

No I'm not leaving, are you Mrs and Miss Smith?


You must have had family issues though when Brian was here. You were pretty quick to turn your back on him.

But now you see the grass isn't greener on the other side, and you are one big loving family again.

Drugs.

Suity

 

[Swiftstylez]

Are you leaving?



You must have missed the bit where we are aware of the players underperforming and lack of decent management.

You may have missed that as coach Hagan is responsible for dropping under performers and promoting those doing a good job. He selects the team every week and when the team doesn't improve it is up to him to make improvements. They haven't happened so while we are aware of the need for new players in some areas when the coach allows those players to leave and doesn't improve the roster then like management he too needs to go.

Ah the retention myth:

Less than convincing performances by our key players this year have lead some to believe that we have not retained players that we should have/could have kept. We aren't one of the best teams on paper for nothing, so obviously our retention has actually been good. It's just the performances on field have been lacking.

Hayne
Inu
Mateo
Hindmarsh
MoiMoi

.. Please, most teams would have dreamed to have them in their team before this season started.

I admit we need new forwards, however. Our backs are fine.

 

[The Colonel]

We aren't one of the best teams on paper for nothing

We aren't even one of those at the moment.

 

[Swiftstylez]

We aren't even one of those at the moment.

Not after this season, no. But what is Hagan meant to do mid-season when we were relying on the players selected to stand up?

 

[bradeel]

We are now one of the worst teams on paper. Our forward pack is widely acknowledged as soft and ageing, whilst the younger members have not come on to any degree yet. We have little depth in our halves, our bench provides no impact, much of our future has been poached by Manly (among others), and those players still at the club that are respected as having great amounts of talent only show it sporadically or go missing when the going gets tough.

 

[Apey]

:lol:

boring troll.

 

[Bazal]

Simple. Until we get a good one. Not too many were unhappy with Smithy to start with, but ten years is a long time and the club was stagnating. Perhaps because of Smith, perhaps it runs deeper than that. But he overstayed his time, as good as he had been for us. Hagan is downright sh*t. He has no gameplan, no strategic ability, no motivational ability, no respect from his charges or his peers, and no idea. In two seasons he has ruined what Brian Smith built at Parramatta.

We used to have the best depth in the competition. Now we struggle to pick a top 25 for next year. We used to be one of the more exciting teams to watch, now we're more boring than almost everyone else. We used to be a side that teams would fear when we had the ball, now we're lucky to score 14 points....So the answer to your question is simple. When we get a coach who can restore all that; who can restore the confidence, the passion and the attitude, then we'll be happy.

 

[spiderdan]

a common theme in our under-performing this year has been attitude.

this is something that comes from the head coach. i don't remember how many players under smith would be out late on the piss and getting into a heap of trouble. not until smith's last season with us anyway when he stopped giving a crap.

hagan isn't the only thing wrong but he is a significant part of it.

 

[Eels Dude]

I think Brian Smith is doing a great job at Newcastle, but I'm still glad he's not at Parramatta any more. Hagan hasn't done the job required of him as far as i'm concerned.

 

[Swiftstylez]

:lol:

boring troll.

Please, get your hand off of it.

Fair enough statements by everyone who just opposed Hagan... I know Bazal doesn't really mean it anyway.

 

[The Colonel]

But what is Hagan meant to do mid-season when we were relying on the players selected to stand up?

Come up with something other than "We are closing in on where we want to be".

Dropping someone other than a winger who needed to be dropped weeks before and the fullback would have been a decent start.

 

[Bazal]

Not after this season, no. But what is Hagan meant to do mid-season when we were relying on the players selected to stand up?

Selecting the best side, and dropping non performing players might have been a start.

 

[hineyrulz]

Having a clue would be a start.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Swift, you are deadset the biggest idiot to ever grace this forum.

Get over yourself.

And for the record, I never wanted Smith gone. You're wrong, again. What a surprise.

 

[strider]

I never totally blamed brian smith for our bad times with him - I believe we have alot of soft players in the ranks - many were here with brian and many and still here being soft with Hages ... so I do not entirely blame Hages for our piss poor efforts this year (altho he is a part of the problem)

I do however fear for the immediate future of our footy team and that I substantially attribute to Hages .... I genuinely see us going backwards next year - the rest of the NRL is improving their rosters while we are back peddling .... and surprise, surprise, apart from Newcastle having joey and danny to keep them kicking, Hage's last appointment did basically the same thing

I wouldn't have Smithy back - too much history there - altho I reckon he'd do a damn better job at rebuilding the mess we are stumbling into atm