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I Dont' Like Cricket, Oh No, I Love it, Yeah

Gronk

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Ch9 opted for the tennis. BTW Ch9 stream all channels live via 9Now and you can Chromecast in 1080p.

 

hineyrulz

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See above. We've got anti-siphoning laws to prevent this, so unless they change it's not gonna happen.
Thats only if a FTA station bids for them, what if no one bids for them???

Cricket is our national pastime and we never should have to pay to watch it on our own country.

Edit and going by Gronks link it looks like they haven’t bid for the ODI’s and 20/20’s.
 

Bazal

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Thats only if a FTA station bids for them, what if no one bids for them???

Cricket is our national pastime and we never should have to pay to watch it on our own country.

If no one bids for them, how can an FTA station carry them?

If the FTA stations want them, they will bid for them. You can't blame CA if no FTA station wants to bid....
 

Happy MEel

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If no one bids for them, how can an FTA station carry them?

If the FTA stations want them, they will bid for them. You can't blame CA if no FTA station wants to bid....
How does that work though? What would be deemed a legitimate “bid”? Hypothetically, if nine bid $1 does that mean they get the rights to screen the one dayers and T20 based on anti-siphoning laws?
 

Happy MEel

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I think I’ve tried 9now previously for the footy and it indicated that the stream wasn’t available for that program.
 

Bazal

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How does that work though? What would be deemed a legitimate “bid”? Hypothetically, if nine bid $1 does that mean they get the rights to screen the one dayers and T20 based on anti-siphoning laws?

I don't know enough about the ins and outs of it all tbh...I guess if it's the only FTA bid, and it guarantees FTA cricket, then maybe it would stand?

EDIT-Actually I misread, I don't know if the anti-siphoning covers the ODIs and T20s
 

Gronk

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It seems to me that Murdoch has done some serious lobbying withe the conservative gov and been successful in getting the ant-siphoning laws watered down. He also gets paid $30m to show more womens sports etc. Something that I thought the ABC did anyway.


Anti-siphoning changes a blow to sports fans who want to watch on free-to-air TV

Sport features heavily in the federal government’s long-anticipated Broadcast and Content Reform Package.

The package demonstrates the deep connection between sport and TV, as well as the prominent place of sport in Australian culture.

It proposes to ban gambling advertising during live sports programs to placate those who oppose the increasing presence of gambling in sport, via TV. But the major sports and TV networks are soothed by lifting this restriction after the key 8.30pm watershed.

The government also wants to provide A$30 million over four years to assist pay TV to give greater coverage to sports that are rarely or never shown on TV. It is not clear why free-to-air TV is excluded from this arrangement, as low-income households would struggle to afford to watch this new sport TV content.

Controversy over sport, TV and gambling, as well as broader issues like easing the reach and concentration rules, have tended to overshadow significant changes to the anti-siphoning scheme. This scheme was introduced prior to the introduction of pay TV in 1995 to ensure that “events of national importance and cultural significance” – all of them of a sporting nature – should not be captured exclusively by pay TV.

A list of sport events that had to be offered first to free-to-air TV was produced based on this criterion.

Ever since, commercial networks have battled with pay TV over the size of the list, and even its existence. For obvious reasons, the free-to-air networks prefer a long list, even if they don’t want to show all the sports available to them.

The communications minister has the power to list any event judged to have widespread public appeal. It must be made freely available as a right of cultural citizenship.

The government proposes to reduce the size of the anti-siphoning list to improve the competitive position of pay TV. What are the implications of the proposed changes for TV and the wider national culture?

In an acknowledgement of the complete digitisation of Australian TV, the package allows free-to-air broadcasters to show listed events on their digital channels without asking the minister’s permission to move it from their main channel.

It has also widened the window for taking an event off the list from 12 to 26 weeks to assist pay TV in bidding for events that the networks may be not be interested in broadcasting.

The current list covers Australian rules football, rugby league, association football (soccer), rugby union, cricket, tennis, golf, Olympic Games, horse racing, netball, and motorsports.

No sport event has been added. Most of the sports on the list are male-dominated. And this remains the case despite the rising position of women’s sport in Australia.

There are only limited changes to domestic sport. The AFL and NRL are untouched (the A-League, Netball Championship and Super Rugby aren’t listed), as are the Melbourne Cup, State of Origin, the Grand Prix and Bathurst 1000, although other V8 Supercars Championship races have been delisted.

Golf has disappeared altogether, meaning the Australian Masters and Open are no longer part of the national cultural estate. But so has the US Masters, reflecting a trend of delisting some major events and overseas tournaments.

Consequently, the English FA Cup final has gone, but so have tennis’ Wimbledon and the US Open.

It is in the international sphere that the biggest changes have occurred. While the Olympic Games is untouched, there is a substantial reduction of listed coverage of international events involving Australian teams playing overseas in rugby league, football, rugby union, cricket, and netball. There is also a general reduction of listed coverage of major events like the football, rugby and cricket World Cups.

The inevitable philosophical – as opposed to commercial – implication of the government’s revision is that events involving Australian sport teams and individuals in several overseas locations are no longer regarded as being of national importance and cultural significance.

As a result, what people could once see for free, punctuated by advertisements, they will now have to pay for – while still being exposed to advertisements.

The proposed anti-siphoning changes shift the economic balance from free-to-air towards pay-TV, as well as from government intervention in the sport TV market to more open market play.

https://theconversation.com/anti-si...ans-who-want-to-watch-on-free-to-air-tv-78666
 

Happy MEel

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I don't know enough about the ins and outs of it all tbh...I guess if it's the only FTA bid, and it guarantees FTA cricket, then maybe it would stand?
If that’s the case then that would be a genius move from nine as they’d effectively be getting the rights for free.
 

Gronk

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I think I’ve tried 9now previously for the footy and it indicated that the stream wasn’t available for that program.

Ch9 have only been live streaming for a few weeks I think. I will look tonight.

Maybe you are right. Watching the NRL on devices may breach the current broadcast deal bc the NRL app does that behind their paywall.
 

Happy MEel

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It seems to me that Murdoch has done some serious lobbying withe the conservative gov and been successful in getting the ant-siphoning laws watered down. He also gets paid $30m to show more womens sports etc. Something that I thought the ABC did anyway.


Anti-siphoning changes a blow to sports fans who want to watch on free-to-air TV

Sport features heavily in the federal government’s long-anticipated Broadcast and Content Reform Package.

The package demonstrates the deep connection between sport and TV, as well as the prominent place of sport in Australian culture.

It proposes to ban gambling advertising during live sports programs to placate those who oppose the increasing presence of gambling in sport, via TV. But the major sports and TV networks are soothed by lifting this restriction after the key 8.30pm watershed.

The government also wants to provide A$30 million over four years to assist pay TV to give greater coverage to sports that are rarely or never shown on TV. It is not clear why free-to-air TV is excluded from this arrangement, as low-income households would struggle to afford to watch this new sport TV content.

Controversy over sport, TV and gambling, as well as broader issues like easing the reach and concentration rules, have tended to overshadow significant changes to the anti-siphoning scheme. This scheme was introduced prior to the introduction of pay TV in 1995 to ensure that “events of national importance and cultural significance” – all of them of a sporting nature – should not be captured exclusively by pay TV.

A list of sport events that had to be offered first to free-to-air TV was produced based on this criterion.

Ever since, commercial networks have battled with pay TV over the size of the list, and even its existence. For obvious reasons, the free-to-air networks prefer a long list, even if they don’t want to show all the sports available to them.

The communications minister has the power to list any event judged to have widespread public appeal. It must be made freely available as a right of cultural citizenship.

The government proposes to reduce the size of the anti-siphoning list to improve the competitive position of pay TV. What are the implications of the proposed changes for TV and the wider national culture?

In an acknowledgement of the complete digitisation of Australian TV, the package allows free-to-air broadcasters to show listed events on their digital channels without asking the minister’s permission to move it from their main channel.

It has also widened the window for taking an event off the list from 12 to 26 weeks to assist pay TV in bidding for events that the networks may be not be interested in broadcasting.

The current list covers Australian rules football, rugby league, association football (soccer), rugby union, cricket, tennis, golf, Olympic Games, horse racing, netball, and motorsports.

No sport event has been added. Most of the sports on the list are male-dominated. And this remains the case despite the rising position of women’s sport in Australia.

There are only limited changes to domestic sport. The AFL and NRL are untouched (the A-League, Netball Championship and Super Rugby aren’t listed), as are the Melbourne Cup, State of Origin, the Grand Prix and Bathurst 1000, although other V8 Supercars Championship races have been delisted.

Golf has disappeared altogether, meaning the Australian Masters and Open are no longer part of the national cultural estate. But so has the US Masters, reflecting a trend of delisting some major events and overseas tournaments.

Consequently, the English FA Cup final has gone, but so have tennis’ Wimbledon and the US Open.

It is in the international sphere that the biggest changes have occurred. While the Olympic Games is untouched, there is a substantial reduction of listed coverage of international events involving Australian teams playing overseas in rugby league, football, rugby union, cricket, and netball. There is also a general reduction of listed coverage of major events like the football, rugby and cricket World Cups.

The inevitable philosophical – as opposed to commercial – implication of the government’s revision is that events involving Australian sport teams and individuals in several overseas locations are no longer regarded as being of national importance and cultural significance.

As a result, what people could once see for free, punctuated by advertisements, they will now have to pay for – while still being exposed to advertisements.

The proposed anti-siphoning changes shift the economic balance from free-to-air towards pay-TV, as well as from government intervention in the sport TV market to more open market play.

https://theconversation.com/anti-si...ans-who-want-to-watch-on-free-to-air-tv-78666
This article mentions Australian teams (including cricket) playing overseas coming off the list but nothing about the International matches played in Oz.
 

Happy MEel

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Ch9 have only been live streaming for a few weeks I think. I will look tonight.

Maybe you are right. Watching the NRL on devices may breach the current broadcast deal bc the NRL app does that behind their paywall.
I might too as I’m at a mates house who doesn’t have FTA or fox FFS!!
 

hineyrulz

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If no one bids for them, how can an FTA station carry them?

If the FTA stations want them, they will bid for them. You can't blame CA if no FTA station wants to bid....
Well if you are asking for too much that’s why you have no bidders??? What have CA done to allow it to get to this??

Do you honestly think this is a good think for the game???

65% of the country just lost a as potential viewers.
 

Bazal

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Well if you are asking for too much that’s why you have no bidders??? What have CA done to allow it to get to this??

Do you honestly think this is a good think for the game???

65% of the country just lost a as potential viewers.

I don't think it's a good thing or a bad one. I think it's just a thing that's happened. This big games will still be on FTA and fans hopefully get a much better broadcast standard on Fox.

CA don't set the price. They take tenders from the networks and sell the rights to their preferred bidder. If no FTA station bids for the rights, that is nothing to do with CA.
 

Twizzle

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worst decision ever, now watch the mind games begin

we must win the battle within the battle

he'll have all players doing karate for cricket training
 

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