I established a terror movement in Australia, and I quit

Discussion in 'Four Corners' started by Collateral, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM.

  1. The Great Dane

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    You know you're in the most reasonable place politically when the people to the left of you are calling you a right wing nut and the people the right of you are calling you a bleeding heart lefty, I've been in that position for quite a while now.

    Never said that 18c or anti-discrimination laws had anything to do with Marxism, they do have something to do with authoritarianism though.

    Again I never said that, all I said about this subject was basically that people should be able to say whatever they want, except direct incitement to violence and direct threats, without having to deal with the law or having to worry about being publicly crusified.

    If you don't have that you don't have free speech, Australia doesn't have that.

    That's a new one, I've never been called culture warrior before, might look it up and see if it's a good thing sometime.

    This coming from what I suppose is a communist, the irony!
     
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  2. Mr Spock!

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    Lol....it's ironic that you dismiss those who disagree with you as communists when it would be the vast majority of the west who disagree with your bs


    You just want the right to lie and make up any old sit without any consequence.

    Ain't happening.

    Hey dude, go try and be a nazi in Germany and see how you go


    Those laws have been there since 1946.

    Go there and have a cry for the poor ol nazi's. .
     
  3. The Great Dane

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    I completely agree, but the left is just as bad as the right in the this regard, it's just they're flexible with different facts and that they downplay the influence of different groups and ideologies such as communism and Antifa.

    I didn't intend to downplay far right groups, if that was the impression that you got then I apologise of my in-articulation.

    I completely agree.
     
  4. The Great Dane

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    I don't dismiss anyone that disagrees with me, I dismiss ideas that are demonstrably bad, not people though.
    If I dismissed people I wouldn't still be talking to you.

    As for the Nazi in Germany thing-
    First they came for the Nazis and I said nothing because I wasn't a Nazi, then they came for sexist and racists and I said nothing because I wasn't a sexist or a racist, then they came for the... I'm sure you get the idea.

    If things were different and communists were having their freedom of speech revoked for whatever reason then I'd be defending there freedom of speech.
     
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  5. Evil Homer

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    It depends, I'm pretty sure 99% of people would be happy with the likes of Anjem Choudary not being allowed to go round the Muslim communities in London saying that Westerners are infidels who should be slaughtered. Can't speak for Australia but I haven't seen any cases of anyone being unfairly censored, your last point is valid I guess but then if some extreme religious group took control of government I think it's a given that we would all be f**ked anyway.

    But what tends to happen with the right (or at least the type of right wingers in this thread) is that they claim their freedom of speech is being suppressed when it isn't at all, they are able to say exactly what they want to say and all that happens is people shoot them down and tell them that what they're saying is stupid. They confuse that with suppression of free speech when it's nothing of the sort. Or you get idiots like Milo who was harassing people on Twitter, got banned for breaking the rules and then claimed it was an attack on freedom of speech. It's a constant defense that they use whenever someone calls them out for saying stupid or offensive stuff.
     
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  6. Mong

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    Are you suggesting antifa are not more dangerous than Isis???
     
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  7. Smack

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    George Carlin on the Blues Brothers

     
  8. Smack

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    But!But! True communism/socialism hasn't been tried!

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  9. Pete Cash

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    I believe young people and even some older folks (remember millennials are heading towards 40) feel that they have been betrayed by a system that they saw their parents do quite well out of.

    I feel that a lot of this "cultural marxism" is just boredom. Same with the reverse position of the right wing culture warrior. People no longer feel that they do anything meaningful so seek their own deeper meaning out of it. Labour has been more productive than ever in the west but has less to show for it than their parents did at the same point

    This is just the beginning my friend and its happening on the right too
     
  10. Jimbo

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    Hey Dane,

    I haven't seen you post in here much so I'll assume you're new

    Just for a bit of context, after Charlottesville myself and a few other conservatives made a point of denouncing both the alt-right and antifa. Mr Spock won't tell you about that though, because like most leftists he is habitually dishonest
     
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  11. Mong

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    Hahaha

    Get a load of jimmy trying to make a new friend before they realise he is a massive f**kwit.

    On that note, did Collateral ever quote a post from anyone here supporting ANTIFA yesterday when he made such claims?
     
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  12. Collateral

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    Lol. This entire thread is an indictment on how the 4C lefties will jump to antifas aid, even if they just get a bad review from a former member.
     
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  13. Mong

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    Oh, so when you made the claim that fold were supporting antifa, can you pinpoint even one post that you can quote to support your claim?

    I mean, if it's the "entire" thread then surely it won't be hard to post a quote.
     
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  14. Collateral

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    Yes I can, that’s plainly obvious by the whole indictment comment.

    Am I going to do it for you? Lol, no I’m not, because you never extend that courtesy to anyone.
     
  15. Pete Cash

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    He has been downgraded from founder of antifa to former member
     
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  16. Mong

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    Hahahaha

    It's ok Colalteral, we could all see that wasn't the case and you are just making shit up again.
     
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  17. Pete Cash

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    Lmao the cowardice and dishonesty on display here is something else
     
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  18. RockWheel

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    would you do it for me?
     
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    Me and my ten inch penis are not dishonest
     
  20. Jimbo

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    Good to hear, Peewee
     
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