Interesting very interesting

[RL The greatest game]

Super League clubs to be transformed to compete with rugby union, says Pearson | Sport | The Guardian

 

[Perth Red]

Clubs running the game, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[adamkungl]

There's literally nothing tangible actually said in that article.
Pure posturing.
The NRL could say "We'll be bigger than the NFL" tomorrow but it would be baseless lunacy without any visible plan

 

[Evil Homer]

There's literally nothing tangible actually said in that article.
Pure posturing.
The NRL could say "We'll be bigger than the NFL" tomorrow but it would be baseless lunacy without any visible plan

It's the same journalist who pumped out most of the New York stuff, a total fantasist.

 

[RL The greatest game]

There's literally nothing tangible actually said in that article.
Pure posturing.
The NRL could say "We'll be bigger than the NFL" tomorrow but it would be baseless lunacy without any visible plan

Has Rugby League ever had a plan or has it always been a policy on the hoof game?
Off the top of my head i can't think if we've even had a 5 year plan anywhere on clubs or internationals.

 

[adamkungl]

It's the same journalist who pumped out most of the New York stuff, a total fantasist.

Obviously clubs are gonna say things will be better now that we're in charge.
But in 18 months when they have the same sponsors, same competition format, same broadcast deals, same complaints then we'll see if they're still talking big game.

 

[Perth Red]

RFL reminds me of NRL pre Commission days. No annual report, no strategic plan, conflicted ownership and decision making. It needs some professionalism and vision bringing to it and quickly. Letting the lunatics (the clubs) run the asylum is a sure fire recipe for short sighted disaster.

 

[roughyedspud]

Haha I've just said in another thread the lunatics are running the asylum..lol

But it'll get more sinister mark my words

http://www.rugbyleaguehub.com/2018/01/08/super-league-clubs-trying-to-take-over-british-game/

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BATLEY owner Kevin Nicholas says he has seen correspondence which indicates Super League clubs, led by his Wigan counterpart Ian Lenagan, are trying to take over the running of the sport in Britain.



Speaking in this morning’s League Weekly, Nicholas says he believe Super League clubs want to reduce teams in all other divisions to ranks of amateurs, using a power vacuum created by the departure from the Rugby Football League of chief executive Nigel Wood.

“I was able to see a letter from October 7 that Ian Lenagan sent to all Super League clubs, some of it expressing reasonable criticism of the RFL , making it clear that Super League should be making all the decisions on where all the (TV money) goes, and should have complete control – not the independent RFL board,” Nicholas told the magazine.

 

[langpark]

I think the NRL is proof that the more influence clubs have, the more the international game will suffer as a result.

 

[Perth Red]

Nothing new, they've been trying since 1996! Seems this time they might succeed. Clubs outside SL and grassroots will be screwed as the top 14-16 clubs take 80% of the games money and offer little In management of the rest of the sport.

Seems like with the middle 8's and the funding starting to flow to the championship we were heading in a good direction but we will be back to closed shop and no funding below SL very quickly imo

 

[RL The greatest game]

Nothing new, they've been trying since 1996! Seems this time they might succeed. Clubs outside SL and grassroots will be screwed as the top 14-16 clubs take 80% of the games money and offer little In management of the rest of the sport.

Seems like with the middle 8's and the funding starting to flow to the championship we were heading in a good direction but we will be back to closed shop and no funding below SL very quickly imo

Time will tell, but the super league clubs will still want championship clubs to develop players so that then the super league clubs can pick up the best young talent from the championship

 

[deluded pom?]

Time will tell, but the super league clubs will still want championship clubs to develop players so that then the super league clubs can pick up the best young talent from the championship

The problem there is that the clubs outside SL will wither on the vine and the game in those towns will slowly die thus reducing the game's footprint and the player production line at the same time. The SL clubs can't or won't pay for a proper reserve grade competition preferring to use the cheaper dual registration option instead.

 

[adamkungl]

The problem there is that the clubs outside SL will wither on the vine and the game in those towns will slowly die thus reducing the game's footprint and the player production line at the same time. The SL clubs can't or won't pay for a proper reserve grade competition preferring to use the cheaper dual registration option instead.

If they take a greater share of the available money they might.
Re-introduce licencing and reserve grade to SL.
Cut funding to Championship and League One pushing them back to amateur status.

 

[roughyedspud]

They'll take all the money Adam and spend it on the fairy on the top of the tree (marquee/union players) instead of the grassroots (juniors/reserves)


Ps. I remember Lee briers saying last season that a reserve team would cost warrington £300,000 a year too run...to put that into context last April the RFL & SL clubs agreed to increase the salary cap by £275,000 to £2.1m by 2020 as well as adding a 2nd marquee player...meaning the top clubs could,in theory, be spending upwards of £3m in player wages....

Like I said.. they'll spend the money at the top but not at the bottom

 

[Perth Red]

Not really convinced reserve grade is that big an issue now squads aren't huge and partner club agreements seem to work ok. What would be better is a compulsory under 21's or under 23's comp and stronger academies and elite Jnr programs. For a RL jnr hotbed like Hull with 2 SL clubs to only have one academy (even though it is successful to some degree) is outrageous imo.

 

[roughyedspud]

Reserve grade would be under 21/23s

 

[adamkungl]

I don't buy the reserve grade thing either.
The Queensland set up is the most successful in Rugby League and part of its foundations are in a strong 2nd tier comp with dual-registration.

Reserve grade to Super League would decimate the playing quality of the Championship.

 

[roughyedspud]

No it wouldn't lol

We had half the Huddersfield u19s come through the Oldham team last year and they looked seriously out of their depth..

 

[deluded pom?]

Not really convinced reserve grade is that big an issue now squads aren't huge and partner club agreements seem to work ok. What would be better is a compulsory under 21's or under 23's comp and stronger academies and elite Jnr programs. For a RL jnr hotbed like Hull with 2 SL clubs to only have one academy (even though it is successful to some degree) is outrageous imo.

Another myth. Where are all these players in professional RL? Most of the Hull produced players end up at Championship level or lower. Very few make it to SL. One amateur club in Wigan produces more SL players than the whole of Hull does.

 

[roughyedspud]

Oldham produces more SL players than hull too