Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Crush, May 17, 2017.
Give the $900k to Kurt Mann please possum.
Possm, I'm selling some shirts if you're interested? Whats your size?
After careful consideration I agree It's definitely not a mess it's a catastrophe.
We need all our juniors to leave so we can actually find out what they were really like.
I think some one may work with the ATO with number crunching like that.
Length or girth?
Hmm a guy asking another guy that.
Just trying to be funny.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
You were right, bud.
Life is pretty simple. There are negative and positive people. This thread proves it. I reckon its 50/50.
it's not a mess.
we have won games this year against what most of the arm chair experts proclaimed.
Lots of you were wrong. Look in the mirror and admit u are human and u make mistakes like we all do.
We have lost close games this year but more or less have been competitive.
We have had untimely injuries.
We have lost players. Who want to much coin. so what ! Bye bye....they are solid, not brilliant and definitely replaceable.
We are short a half a 5/8 and a fullback and still doing ok.
A mess is the tigers
Stay positive we are doing ok
If you are offended harden up.
Stop being so negative.
Things could be better. But could be a whole lot worse
Respect what they have done in spite of the challenges we face.
Go dragons !!!
it's a little untidy..
personally, i have this blind faith that we'll win every match we play
that's true. for most of today i was certain it was friday, not thursday.
well that's true, but they still register as losses on the table.
agree. i'd much prefer we lost dugan and widdop in a preliminary final win
agree.. there are 32 other players who played the ANZAC test we could try and pick up instead
well, we've lost every game we haven't had our complete spine..
actually a mess is where soldiers go to eat..
is a positive cocaine test okay?
it's not a convenient time to have a boner right now, but okay.
if two of us are negative though, that makes a positive.. so provided we all pair up, we should be okay?
that's true. we could be AFL fans..
who are "they"? are you one of them? can you read my thoughts?
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Thanks for your input, Captain Sarcasm.
My remark only reaffirmed what most Dragons' fans already know.
Perhaps you haven't figured that out yet?
I don't think it's about being negative or positive. This isn't a glass half empty/full scenario. It's about people having somewhat informed opinions based on their experience observing how successful teams are built. Like most subjects on here opinion is divided and that's ok.
I think Millward's recruitment and retention has caused us to go backwards, but I truly hope that I'm proven to be wrong and that you're right.
Careful challenging Coasty, he might block you like he has 80% of this forum. He only likes to interact with people who agree with him 100% of the time.
I doubt you know much to be honest.
When you say Millwards recruitment and retention has caused us to go backwards where exactly backwards from? I think from last year we have come leaps and bounds forwards.
If you are talking purely about the loss of Dugan and Packer then I think thats a bit tough. Its the way the market is. Every team is suffering with players leaving for more coin.
And maybe you are right its not a glass half full glass half empty scenario but there are definitely positive and negative people.
I looked back at a thread about expectations for 2017 from before the season. Some people said we would get the spoon, some said we would be lucky to finish top 12, and so on up. Mickeylane said top 4. I think he may almost just be right. Positive person.
Crush it is good to stay positive , and I for one admit that we are doing much better than what I thought , but we have to be realistic at the same time . Lets just hope that the club and ourselves have turned the corner after a few dismal years and make this club The Almighty St George Illawarra a great team and club again ....
I gree with the points you have made however, the mess has very little to do with the players. Millward has caused the mess by not closing deals promptly. If Dugan wants 1m and Millward would never pay 1m, that is fine. Millward should have tabled his final offer with a deadline and moved onto the next deal.
In November last year Packer wanted to stay and there were no other offers. Do the deal and move on. There was nothing to be gained by delaying this extension by 6 months.
Millward showed a lack of ability when it came to closing the difficult deals. He compounded the problem by insulting Dugan, saying he is a centre and would only be paid centre money or words to that effect. Millward agreed with the player manager to do Packer's deal last, why? Packer wanted to stay, we wanted him to stay and at the time, Packer was not complaining about the offer.
The mess is all to do with Millward and his ability to do the job.
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