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It’s not so much the program that has been designed for Hayne as I’m sure Wilmot had some input into it.

It’s more the fact a player had to raise the issue that he wanted to be lighter, the coach wanted him to be lighter but our seemingly generic weights program (as opposed to an individualised plan) was counterproductive to him losing weight. According to quotes from the man himself, It has only been since this was brought up by Hayne that a change was made. That is absurd!!

Only speculation but it raises questions whether perhaps others have also lost confidence in the strength and conditioning training currently employed at the club.

Seeing as Wilmot is new, so was Hayne how can you give him a specialised weights program from day 1? He'd have to start out on a generic weights program so the staff could get an idea on how his body would handle and change throughout. It also seems that Hayne and BA saying they want him playing lighter has only been spoken about recently and his program was adjusted accordingly.

Don't take this as me defending Wilmot, he hasn't worked out and since bringing in Jimenez we've looked a lot better but you can't completely undo a pre-season's worth of training in 2 months. But I think it's a bit unfair to criticise him based on this article as Hayne and BA only wanted him to play lighter mid-season, and he made adjustments mid-season.
 

Happy MEel

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Seeing as Wilmot is new, so was Hayne how can you give him a specialised weights program from day 1? He'd have to start out on a generic weights program so the staff could get an idea on how his body would handle and change throughout. It also seems that Hayne and BA saying they want him playing lighter has only been spoken about recently and his program was adjusted accordingly.

Don't take this as me defending Wilmot, he hasn't worked out and since bringing in Jimenez we've looked a lot better but you can't completely undo a pre-season's worth of training in 2 months. But I think it's a bit unfair to criticise him based on this article as Hayne and BA only wanted him to play lighter mid-season, and he made adjustments mid-season.
Personally, I don’t think it’s unfair criticism but that’s understandable if you do. As I mentioned by judgement has not just come from the Hayne article.

Blind Freddy could see Hayne needed to drop weight when he commenced preseason. I’d be very surprised (and disappointed) if BA didn’t want to strip weight off him then in a way that didn’t lose too much strength.
 
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strider

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Wilmont vs Jimenez

Sounds like a MMA matchup .... i say we let them battle it out and winner gets to be next years scapegoat
 
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So Jarryd has been on his new program for 2 months. Taking into account the season start time and his injuries, he played 2 games and a kickoff under his old weights program. Not a big sample in which to gauge how it was going. Also Jarryd is notorious for avoiding weights but here he is saying he wants to do what everybody else is doing. Does that mean he has been working hard at training and not going to the toilet?
 

Noise

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So Jarryd has been on his new program for 2 months. Taking into account the season start time and his injuries, he played 2 games and a kickoff under his old weights program. Not a big sample in which to gauge how it was going. Also Jarryd is notorious for avoiding weights but here he is saying he wants to do what everybody else is doing. Does that mean he has been working hard at training and not going to the toilet?

Pretty sure he says he does not want to be doing the same program as everyone else as he gets too heavy on their weights program
 

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Pretty sure he says he does not want to be doing the same program as everyone else as he gets too heavy on their weights program

Maybe he was eating maccas whereas Tepai was eating poached chicken and egg white omelettes.
 
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Pretty sure he says he does not want to be doing the same program as everyone else as he gets too heavy on their weights program

"I spoke to Brad and said my body hasn’t really responded to the basic weights session everyone does," Hayne said after the Eels inched closer to avoiding the wooden spoon with a win over the Bulldogs on Thursday night. "It is tough, too, because you don’t want to be different.
 

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"I spoke to Brad and said my body hasn’t really responded to the basic weights session everyone does," Hayne said after the Eels inched closer to avoiding the wooden spoon with a win over the Bulldogs on Thursday night. "It is tough, too, because you don’t want to be different.

You just proved my point. He says he needs to things differently (in terms of weights) to everyone else. The part you bolded indicates he feels bad about having to do things differently.
 
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You just proved my point. He says he needs to things differently (in terms of weights) to everyone else. The part you bolded indicates he feels bad about having to do things differently.

no I proved my point he says he doesnt want to be different which means being the same the fact that his program has been modified doesnt mean that he refused to do the old program. You really need to go back to school and relearn English
 

Happy MEel

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no I proved my point he says he doesnt want to be different which means being the same the fact that his program has been modified doesnt mean that he refused to do the old program. You really need to go back to school and relearn English
What are you talking about? No one is saying he refused to do the old program. That quote indicates that he was on the same program as everyone else and found that he wasn’t playing at his optimum weight because of it. Even though he doesn’t like being treated differently to everyone else they have agreed on a different/specialised program to get him lighter. Its early days but it seems to be working.
 

Noise

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no I proved my point he says he doesnt want to be different which means being the same the fact that his program has been modified doesnt mean that he refused to do the old program. You really need to go back to school and relearn English

Obviously comprehension is not your strong point. Also, never question someone's English ability when your own post has several grammar and punctuation errors in the first sentence - to the point that it does not even make sense.
 

strider

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BA said preseason that you do things differently with athletes like semi and hayne (around the time every media outlet was jarryd bashing for not being at the front of the long distance endurance work)

I think everyone is reading too much into some off the cuff remarks jarryd said .... take its interpretation with a grain of salt
 

Happy MEel

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BA said preseason that you do things differently with athletes like semi and hayne (around the time every media outlet was jarryd bashing for not being at the front of the long distance endurance work)

I think everyone is reading too much into some off the cuff remarks jarryd said .... take its interpretation with a grain of salt
As I said earlier, this isn’t the only thing that I base my judgement on, but it certainly adds a growing weight of evidence that our strength and conditioning has been below par.
 

strider

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I reckon its pretty obvious our strength and conditioning is f**ked

But give past weight of evidence, i could just as easily put a spin on this as "hayne doesnt want to do wieghts" - infact im surprised the media hasnt lol
 

Happy MEel

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I reckon its pretty obvious our strength and conditioning is f**ked

But give past weight of evidence, i could just as easily put a spin on this as "hayne doesnt want to do wieghts" - infact im surprised the media hasnt lol
I’m sure if he was going like a busted arse they probably would. Hard to criticise though seeing It has coincided with a return to form.
 

Noise

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OK, didn't someone on here (it may have been cheifybase) give the impression that Wilmot was rissoled about a month ago. Does anyone know for sure if he's still around?

He’s still around but they got a new bloke with NRL experience in to fix his mess
 
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