Jason Nightingale 2017

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by ALSGI, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. Bests Golden Boots

    Bests Golden Boots Juniors

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    I love Nightingale, but in the modern game wing is where you bring on your 18yo flyers, say like Souths did last night, so it may be time to move on.

    Just another thing, can everyone stop saying "Nene is lethal in the air", yeah maybe with Melbourne when you have Cronk dropping the ball on a dime, but when one half of our kicking team is McCrone who seems to think the ground is 120 metres long it doesn't really help that much.
    The rest of the time Nene is a big lazy lump who loves to jog around doing not much.

    Did anyone see McCrone last night kick a bomb through the goal post from 25 out AFL style? Or was that just another nightmare I had?
     
  2. Dragonslayer

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    ??????
     
  3. Dragonslayer

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    OT, no I'm not and definitely he needs to move on now, however, you seemed to go off tangent without the realisation that McGregor is still coach next year and whilst he is you, and others, will have to face reality of who he is going to select each week. I'm not saying it's right and there is no way I suppirt anything McGregor does, but you need to wake up and smell the dying roses that surround us, and then, only then the hard truth will be realised.
     
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  4. slippery5

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    Sorry, I don't think it was you.
    But anyway we can't include Nighty in the future, :eek:
     
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  5. Dragonslayer

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    No worries.
    And yeah i agree Nighty is not what we need going forward but does our mastwr coach agree....thats the main issue
     
  6. 2010

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    I'd hope that Nighty retired after this season whilst still on top. He is one of my favourites but it's a different game, it's all about speed.
    McDonald is not that fast and does get caught out of position way to many times.
    Perhaps Mann could fill one of those positions. He did last year and was our leading try scorer'
    I think that Maketo should not be given an extension and McCrone either.
     
  7. ALSGI

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    Gee wiz, he's looking done.
    Fell over for two close range tries yesterday untouched and looked hurt both times. Not as safe as he used to be with the kicks and mistakes creeping in.

    It's time champ.

    We need fresh legs and speed on his wing and have plenty of options to choose from.
     
  8. rasaint

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    It's an interesting conversation about Flo.

    Again he was fantastic yesterday. Scored two trys ( one reaching back in a cramped position to catch and scramble), made good bullocking metres, one yesterday a barnstormer,chased hard to hold Don close enough to catch with copybook dive tackle in the second half. Yes he got out jumped by Don who basically out jumps everyone in that situation.

    Flo even in his hay day was never a fast winger. He is reasonably quick but that's all.

    If you are going to replace him it would need to be an ato Carr or someone very fast.

    BTW Tim Lafai played well again yesterday. The timing and delivery of that flick to Nightie was sublime. Even Don was cursing himself for taking a step inside which opened the narrow channel.
     
  9. Dennis Papaioannou

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    Can someone please explain to me why McGregor plays Nightingale at LW and McDonald RW?
    We won a comp with Nightingale playing in his specialist RW position.
    I also agree that Widdop is major problem - great when our forwards are obliterating opposing packs but struggles in tight games.
    As for LC - surely we can find a suitable exponent out of current player group.
     
  10. slippery5

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    It's the same answer when you ask the question.
    Why does McNoidea persist with McCrone over not giving Mann a full game ?
    Answer : Our coach has NO IDEA.
    Maybe he should be working for that magazine !!!!!!!
     
  11. FlameThrower

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    McCrone off to Canadian rugby league and Marketo won't be renewed.
     
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  12. Dragonslayer

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    McGregor is only capable of 1 major decision a season and it tiok him 23 rounds to figure that one out.
    I can only tgink that by this time next year he would have worked out the situation you've mentioned.
     
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  13. Gippsy

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    What an absolute champion Nighty has been over many years.

    But, sadly his time has come. We need fresh legs, size and speed. And while many can look at his try scoring efforts this year, from what I've seen most of the tries he's scored could've been scored by my Grandma.
     
  14. MilanDragon

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    If your grandma is good enough to be about the 6th highest try scorer in the NRL this season we should sign her up! I'm sure she could play for the base level and not take up too much Cap room - although I believe Nighty would take even less up (with his cap exemption).
     
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  15. giboz71

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    We can continue to carry Nighty, like we've done for the last few years and he'll do an adequate job. Never let's you down, makes few mistakes and will always finish off a backline movement (when he has to run less than 10m).

    If we continue scratching around on the fringe of the 8, Nighty is fine. But if we want to be a top 4 side and challenge the likes of the Storm, Broncos Roosters etc, we need more. Those teams have elite spines but they complement it with speed. Ado Carr, Vunivalu, Roberts, Mitchell etc.

    It's not good enough to have an honest toiler on your flanks.

    We made the tough decision setting Duges loose knowing he's not the FB to lead us to the comp, someone needs to make the same call with Nighty.
     
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    Whos out there to buy?
    He takes the heat with crucial runs.
    Melb bris and chooks also have elite salary caps
     
  17. God-King Dean

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    Anyone who thinks we'd improve as a team by having a 'fast winger' is legitimately stupid
     
  18. ALSGI

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    Agree, it hasn't worked for Melb and other top teams so why would it work for us.
     
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    Plenty of examples of young flyers, Ado Carr being the best example. Doubt he would have cost a bomb. Melbourne just know which players to complement their spine. Cotric at the Raiders is another, the kid is 18 years old. Mitchell and Manu for the Roosters are still teenagers.

    Good wingers are out there, we just need to look. As I've said, Mosby would be my target.
     
  20. coast_dragons

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    Millward should have made the call on Nighty or was he over ryled due to the club trying to be to loyal.

    Young Tom Carr was quick yet got the shits with the club and left.

    If you look over the entire club I don't see any really speedy players or should I say players who could fill in on the wing at this stage.
     

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