Martial Arts

[dogslife]

Anyone get into martial arts? I've done a bit of grappling training in the past (Jiu-jitsu and wrestling) and just started doing a bit of Muay Thai training in the last couple of weeks with a mate, and the workouts are simply awesome, better than anything I could do at the gym

 

[Desert Qlder]

Good topic.

My new profession requires some defensive skills so I've been looking into this in recent weeks. Obviously nothing is happening over the Xmas period but in the new year I'll be taking up a discipline.

Out of all that I've looked at it seems that either Wing Chun or Jiu-Jitsu will be suitable to me.

I too would be interested to hear other forumers who have experience in these disciplines.

 

[Cliffhanger]

I did Pencak Silat for around a decade, done a bit of Kung Fu and Taekwondo too. Taekwondo is shithouse tbh. The other two are awesome. I'm hoping to get back into martial arts but it's hard to find a good dojo with the commercialisation of Martial Arts.

 

[dogslife]

I couldn't really tell you which is best to be honest. I know kung fu has a lot of detractors because of its perceived "lack of real world application", but having never tried it I can't really comment. I know Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can be very effective for self defense if you're willing to put the time into learning them. I wouldn't mind trying Aikido either, because Steven Seagal is a beast

 

[Cliffhanger]

Bullshit, anybody who believes Kung Fu lacks real world application has no f**king idea.

Firstly Kung Fu is a Chinese Martial Arts, there are hundreds of different schools. Bruce Lee invented his own form of Kung Fu.

Secondly I guarantee you if you were to study any form of Kung Fu the first thing you'd learn is self defence techniques and very effective ones at that.

 

[aqua_duck]

Wing Chun is probably the most effective form of Kung Fu and ofcourse it's effective in regards to self defence.
I've studied different forms of martial arts and IMO Muay Thai is the most effective form of striking but wrestling is the most effective overall. The problem with alot of martial arts is the skill level required for it to become effective. My ex PE teacher was a AIS level freestyle wrestler and I trained with him a few times after I finished HS, even after a few sessions I was able to learn enough to basically get someone to the ground and therefore control the fight. The most effective move in fighting is one of the most basic, a double leg takedown

 

[Ram Man]

Been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for about 2 years.....and I absolutely love it!

It does require a lot of dedication and time to learn the techniques properley otherwise you are not going to be as affective.

Highly recommend it for self defence and for a workout...when you are sparring, it really takes it out of you...and I have done quite a bit of boxing over the years as well, which as we all know is a good blowout.

 

[Snoochies]

I did Krav Maga for about 12 months. I wanted something that would help out in the inevitable situation that I could be attacked on the street or something. The Israeli defense force use it and I found it very practical for different situations. It's not going to make you a super star in the ring or anything and it's not designed for that, it's not even used to learn how to go toe to toe with someone, basically it's used to get yourself out of a situation as quick as possible using any means possible. It'svery evolving, they don't hold to one particular style and incorporate boxing, muay thai, BJJ etc and it's progressive and always keeping upto date.

I love BJJ and rate it highly but as was pointed out on the street, it's no good if 2 or 3 blokes are looking to belt the crap out of you. Once you are on the ground you'll cop a few boots to the head by their mates. One on one, it's brilliant though.

 

[Ram Man]

You can still be very effective with BJJ if there is more than 1 attacker.

Just dont pull guard and end up on your back...you learn some pretty handy takedowns in BJJ and well, not only singles and doubles but some of the throws which come from the Judo side of BJJ are very effective in getting someone to the ground, appliying a submission while you can still keep your feet.

 

[Snoochies]

You can still be very effective with BJJ if there is more than 1 attacker.

Just dont pull guard and end up on your back...you learn some pretty handy takedowns in BJJ and well, not only singles and doubles but some of the throws which come from the Judo side of BJJ are very effective in getting someone to the ground, appliying a submission while you can still keep your feet.

Aka: Jones on Machida. Actually Machida didn't submit.

 

[Ram Man]

Aka: Jones on Machida. Actually Machida didn't submit.

Unfortunately, going to sleep in MMA or a BJJ comp is submitting...but yeah you are right!

 

[Snoochies]

Nasty submission from Mir on Nog. You see the exray?

 

[aqua_duck]

I did Krav Maga for about 12 months. I wanted something that would help out in the inevitable situation that I could be attacked on the street or something. The Israeli defense force use it and I found it very practical for different situations. It's not going to make you a super star in the ring or anything and it's not designed for that, it's not even used to learn how to go toe to toe with someone, basically it's used to get yourself out of a situation as quick as possible using any means possible. It'svery evolving, they don't hold to one particular style and incorporate boxing, muay thai, BJJ etc and it's progressive and always keeping upto date.

I love BJJ and rate it highly but as was pointed out on the street, it's no good if 2 or 3 blokes are looking to belt the crap out of you. Once you are on the ground you'll cop a few boots to the head by their mates. One on one, it's brilliant though.

The problem with krav maga though is alot of techniques are geared toward disarming an attacker, it's generally not a good idea to try it on the street, I've always been told if somebody pulls a gun on you it's more likely you'll get shot if you try something silly.
I've trained abit in jii jitsu (no-gi) and I love it, I think MMA has shown us how effective grappling is against someone trained in the traditional striking styles

 

[Bulldog Force]

I couldn't really tell you which is best to be honest. I know kung fu has a lot of detractors because of its perceived "lack of real world application", but having never tried it I can't really comment. I know Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can be very effective for self defense if you're willing to put the time into learning them. I wouldn't mind trying Aikido either, because Steven Seagal is a beast

Yeah, but can you reach 7th dan while starring in movies, writing movies, producing movies, leading a music band, become a deputy sheriff AND study to be fluent in reading, writing and speaking Japanese? Of course not, only Steven Seagal is capable of such feat

 

[TooheysNew]

Feet?

 

[Ram Man]

Nasty submission from Mir on Nog. You see the exray?

Yeah mate, I posted the link in the MMA thread in the other sports forum...thats what happens when you dont tap if a black belt is cranking a kimura on you.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Pretty sure if you could afford to pay a qualified instructor what Steven Segal could, you could achieve those feats.

 

[Bulldog Force]

BTW on topic... Taekwondo. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone though. I reached blue belt then just drifted away from it. Had I gone back in time I would've studied either Shinobi-iri and/or Intonjutsu, which are both forms of Bujinkan.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Feet?

*Feat - typo.

Pretty sure if you could afford to pay a qualified instructor what Steven Segal could, you could achieve those feats.

I think more than just money is involved. Time, talent and motivation are also required. Most of todays lazy, fat kids cbf for that sort of devotion.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Obviously the fat ones are less motivated but I blame their parents, if you teach your kids to value health and fitness they will.

Dedication comes from will power and if you value something you will be able to conjure up the will power to achieve it and you will make the sacrifices.

Don't underestimate people.