More irony and hypocrisy from Feminists/SJW's

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  1. Collateral

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    The Red Pill: What happened at the Sydney University screening protest
    POSTED THU 11 MAY 2017, 6:44PM
    Updated Thu 11 May 2017, 7:00pm



    One month after Sydney University's student union (USU) pulled funding from the screening of the Red Pill, the movie night went ahead on campus, with protesters clashing with supporters.

    The Red Pill is a documentary following a woman who identifies as a feminist and then renounces the title after learning about the struggles men face in America. It promotes the idea that men's issues go overlooked because when men complain they are shut down by 'feminists'. It's very popular with Men's Rights Activists (MRAs).

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    The screening was organised by the Conservative Club, Students for Liberty, and the Brotherhood Recreation and Outdoor Society (BROSOc) - small clubs with about 70 members between them. It had been planned for May 4, but USU pulled funding after complaints it breached a regulation that funds may not be used for activities that discriminate or harass on the basis of sex.

    Until then, the screening hadn't had much publicity. There are about 60,000 students at Sydney University and about 40 had responded to the Facebook event.

    The USU's decision to pull funds made headlines.

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    Posters for the counter-protest at Sydney University.

    triple j Hack: Karla Arnall

    It was the first time in at least five years the union had defunded an event of one of its clubs on the ground it discriminated or harassed.

    "This is not a discussion about debate - this is a discussion about sexual violence," USU Honorary Secretary Shannen Potter told Hack.

    In the past, campaigns to ban the screening of The Red Pill have helped publicise the documentary; a private screening in Melbourne last year sold 60 tickets and was canceled after a petition of more than 2,000 signatures. Other screenings have met similar opposition.

    Tonight at Sydney University, about 50-60 protesters held banners and chanted outside the lecture hall where the film was being screened. About 60-70 people attended the screening.

    Police twice broke up scuffles between the groups before the screening.

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    Student protest against Red Pill screening at Sydney University.

    triple j Hack: Karla Arnall

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    Student protest against Red Pill screening at Sydney University.

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    Student protest against Red Pill screening at Sydney University.

    triple j Hack: Karla Arnall

    "We had 50 heavyset Men's Rights Activists provocatively approaching our protests," Eleanor Morley from the Socialist Alternative told Hack.

    "We came here to counter their message of hatred bigotry and misogyny with one that is pro-women and pro-LGBTI people."

    Asked if the protest had publicised The Red Pill screening, she answered:

    "I don't think that's necessarily true.

    "I think it's important whenever an event is put on by the far right and people who fundamentally agree with their messages of hatred, [that we] should try and stop them from having their meetings or events go ahead without an opposing view being heard."

    Renee Gorman, a journalism student and a member of all three clubs organising the screening, said she did not have a "message of hatred".

    "I'm not a bigot or a racist, I'm not anti-queer, I'm not all the labels they've attached to me," she said.

    "All I really want is for there to be a discussion about legitimate male issues.

    "It's not an either/or issue."

    The screening went ahead behind soundproof doors.

    http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/progr...he-sydney-university-red-pill-protest/8518794
     
  2. Collateral

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    Cathy Young of Heat Street gave the film a positive review, saying it raised important issues that often go undiscussed and made "well-deserved" criticisms of feminism. However, she criticized the film for failing to devote attention to "the dark side of the men's movement", and stated that the film would have benefitted from onscreen discussion of the subjects in which MRAs are on "far shakier ground".[21]

    Corrine Barraclough, of the Australian tabloid newspaper The Daily Telegraph, said "the message of The Red Pill is compassion" and the film made her "wonder why feminists tried so hard to silence this crucial conversation."[22]
     
  3. Snoop

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    Protesting against men discussing men's issues is just going to increase the whole MGTOW movement.
     
  4. Collateral

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    Can only laugh at the posters "Counter-Rally against Mens' Rights Activists"

    It really just sums up what Feminism has become though.
     
  5. Snoop

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    Yes, modern Feminists can't have their oppressors being oppressed themselves since then they would have to defend them. Oh it gets so confusing.
     
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  6. Mogsheen Jadwat

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    modern day feminism isn't about equality, it's about replacing the patriarchy.

    so yes, the original concept of feminism has no relation to this current form.
     
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  7. Collateral

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    It's just outright oppression.
     
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    Female chauvinism is a term I've always thought fit pretty well.
     
  9. Pantherjim.

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    This ranks on the same hypocrisy levels as "the straight white guys being banned from equality conference" fiasco.
     
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    Does this shit actually exist in anything but the minds of those that protest and counter protest?
     
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    I mean I'm far to busy exercising my white male privilege to worry about people oppressing me by pointing out I'm exercising my white male privilege.

    f**k I feel hard done by.
     
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    There's was always something being protested about outside Fisher library when I was there, they meant well
     
  13. LESStar58

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    Why are queer people's issues constantly inflated with feminism. Because intersectionality? Because patriarchy?

    These privileged white women are somehow representative of gays, lesbians, trans folks?

    Spare me.

    This is the thing that boils my piss about current left politics; GROUPS! The left are obsessed with groups! This group is oppressed. That group is oppressed. This group is the oppressor. That group has more "privileges" than that group. The sooner these crybullies wake up to themselves and realise that people are individuals the better but I sadly can't see this happening in my lifetime.

    I have seen the Red Pill in the privacy and comfort of my own house and have no idea what the fuss is all about. It is so tame and, to be honest, a little underwhelming. I did get a little upset at the cases of paternity fraud (see the story about Frank Serpico) and the custody cases and I simply could not watch the circumcision scene.

    The content is nothing new; feminists have this perspective. Feminists have their gripes. MRAs have their persepctive. MRAs have their gripes. You can get the same old narrative from just about any blog or news agency on the internet.

    The only thing that I can possibly think of is that feminists are raw at Cassie Jaye for being the Benedict Arnold of feminism. Some of the attacks on her have been outright ridiculous and the people who are criticising her and the film have probably never even seen it.

    I do wish her well though. The movie is a bit bland but my gawd all this kerfuffle must be doing wonders for her publicity. I hope she continues to make films.
     
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  14. Collateral

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    Great post.
     
  15. Snoop

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    Bingo! Give this man a prize.

    I think they are also scared that she may lead others astray. I mean, if a feminist makes a documentary and in the end 'turns' on feminism then maybe it could happen to other feminists. Maybe it could happen to them.
     
  16. LESStar58

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    People softening or hardening their opinions on a variety of matters is nothing new and shouldn't be a concept that sends your detractors (read: people on the other side of the argument) running for the hills.

    I wonder how many of these little 20-something upstarts are going to feel when they look back in 30 years time and cringe? Sadly, they will probably stay ideologues.
     
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    My last political compass test classifies me as a libertarian leftist but very close to the centre of the compass which was kind of spot on because I do consider myself to be a centrist.

    It just makes more sense; I'd sooner process the information made available to me and make a value judgement based on that (and my morality) than tow the party line of the left or the right. My views are moderate. Plain and simple.
     
  18. Pete Cash

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    A lot of them will change. As i said in some thread part of growing up is flirting with extreme ideas. Ive changed a lot since i went to usyd. I dont regret my past opinions it was a progression to where i am now.

    Im glad i went to uni pre social media. I really dont think uni politics is any more extreme its just more in the public eye.

    20 year olds arguing politics is always going to be loud and ugly.
     
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  19. Bandwagon

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    And mostly ill informed.
     
  20. Collateral

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    That doesn't give them the right to try and suppress other people's views though.
     

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