NBN chief blames online 'gamers predominantly' for fixed wireless congestion

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  1. Tenacious Titans

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    By political reporter Jackson Gothe-Snape
    Updated yesterday at 11:27pm

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Gamers could find their connection slowing down under plans being evaluated by NBN Co(Flickr: Steven Andrew (CC BY-NC 2.0))
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    Online gamers have been called out by the head of the National Broadband Network as a major cause of congestion on the fixed wireless network.

    Key points:
    • NBN chief said heavy users causing fixed wireless congestion "gamers predominantly"
    • He later rejected the notion that gamers were a "problem"
    • NBN Co is "evaluating" throttling some fixed wireless users


    NBN Co is "evaluating" slowing down or limiting downloads for users during peak times in order to overcome these fixed wireless congestion problems.

    At a parliamentary hearing in Sydney this afternoon, NBN Co chief executive Bill Morrow said that the heavy users likely targeted by a fair use policy were "gamers predominantly".

    "While people are gaming it is a high bandwidth requirement that is a steady streaming process," Mr Morrow told the committee.

    "This is where you can do things, to where you can traffic shape — where you say, 'no, no, no, we can only offer you service when you're not impacting somebody else'."

    Gamers not a 'problem'
    Under subsequent questioning Mr Morrow claimed that NBN Co would not have information on the behaviour of end users to confirm they were gamers but referred to "people who do have familiarity with it" .

    Labor's regional communications spokesperson Stephen Jones raised the issue again and suggested Mr Morrow had characterised gamers as a "problem".

    In the heated exchange, Mr Morrow accused Mr Jones of putting words in his mouth.

    "I said there were super users out there consuming terabytes of data and the question is should we actually groom those down? It's a consideration," he replied.

    The Australian Communications and Media Authority found in 2016 that increases in the amount of data transferred in Australia appeared to be driven by video content downloading.

    A fair use policy already applies to NBN satellite users which limits peak-hour data usage of individual customers to no more than 75 gigabytes in any four week period.

    NBN Co revealed last month that some fixed wireless towers were experiencing take-up rates of 80 per cent and it has cancelled plans to offer a fast 100 Mbps plan on fixed wireless due to excessive cost.

    Surprise growth
    Mr Jones said it was "extraordinary" that NBN Co had underestimated consumption patterns and that growth would continue.

    "The only conclusion we can make is that there will be data rationing in the wireless footprint, as there is with satellite," he said.

    A spokesperson for Communications Minister Mitch Fifield said Labor had "grossly underestimated the demand for broadband services in regional and remote Australia" when it was in government.

    "If we had stuck to Labor's planned fixed wireless and satellite coverage, at least 200,000 homes and farms would have found themselves without any service at all," the spokesperson said.

    "NBN is taking steps to upgrade and augment the group of towers experiencing congestion, and is prudently planning to manage future demand so that fixed wireless users can make the most of the available network capacity."

    Mr Morrow said on Monday that fewer than 6 per cent of fixed wireless cells are failing to deliver evening speeds of six Mbps, approximately the speed needed to watch high-definition video content.

    The fixed wireless component of the NBN covers approximately 600,000 Australian homes. 234,000 homes are currently connected.





    Of course, blame the customers, not the shitty infrastructure you forced on us. Oh, and Fifield blaming Labor again. Surprise, surprise!
     
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    This guy appears to know 2/10ths of f**k all. Gamers generally have pretty low bandwidth requirements- they send a steady stream of data but the amount of data is actually fairly small compared to streaming video. It’s latency (the time taken for signals to be transmitted and a reply received) rather than bandwidth (the actual amount of dats being transmitted/received per unit of time) which is critical for gaming.
     
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  3. Pantherjim.

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    Bring fibre optic technology up to standard with the rest of first world planet earth.

    Problem solved.

    The rightards will have a different take on this I guess...
     
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    I'd suck more data binging on a Netflix season
     
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    True, how do we expect our gamers to be productive when they are getting killed due to latency issues
     
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    Lol! You could set your watch to it.
     
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    My internet is pretty quick, I can watch youtube and stream the footy with it on mute at the same time.

    netflix is fast too in HD
     
  8. Pantherjim.

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    True, I know I flag a lot at work the next day unless I’ve killed my quota of Krauts on “Red Orchestra II, heroes of Stalingrad” the night before.

    Absolutely sucks arse when you’re about to chuck a grenade at a whole bunch of them at a spawning point and some merkin kicks you off because your Australian NBN connection is too slow.

    Anyhoo...
     
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    Anecdotal
     
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    You sound like a man child. Don't you have kids?
     
  11. I Bleed Maroon

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    Yep, it's the Gamers fault, not the shortsighted brainless politicians who f**ked the whole concept up.
     
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    Did the private sector or government f**k this one up?
     
  13. Pantherjim.

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    Yup I do.

    Is there a rule in life which decrees that you have to give up online gaming once you become a parent?

    Is paintball and weekend sport forbidden too?
     
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    Wait till you get vr porn and latency f**ks up the vinegar stroke
     
  15. Smack

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    lol it's time to grow up
     
  16. I Bleed Maroon

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    The Liberal Government f**ked it up.

    The private sector were too busy charging exorbitant prices for an outdated and broken service they spent zero dollars maintaining to maximize profit.
     
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    “I’m fine, therefore everyone else must be”
     
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    And do what?

    Pretend to be a Jewish tranny on a Rugby League forum?
     
  19. Smack

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    Of course it could be up to speed with the rest of the world, I'd like to stream super duper HD or whatever it's called, but you only have yourselves to blame. How much more proof do you need that the govt is inept and some things should be left to the private sector?
     
  20. I Bleed Maroon

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    I'll remember that the next time I see a gay person marching down the street in a parade dressed like a Rainbow Lorikeet.
     
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