Nightingale its time.

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by John moz, May 6, 2018.

  1. FlameThrower

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    shock horror..how many other players has he done this to..
     
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    Our weakness seems to be on the RIGHT edge and has been for a few years now. Our left edge seems to cope. So is it down to a particular player or is it down to a mix of players. For me I'd rather this be a middle of the field problem mainly because there are a lot more players available to backup and help solve the issue.
     
  3. RufusRex

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    he didn't .. Nighty was on the other edge last year .. it was vunivalo
     
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    I've noticed him always positioning himself directly to side of the play the ball & then pushing other defenders out across him, just looks like he is saying "I can't tackle someone running straight out on the edge, best someone else does it for me"
     
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    Yes that's true, so Macdonald was on the right and we still had the defensive problems. Must be the right centre or the game plan.
     
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    Exactly. Flo was on the left last year and the right edge defence with Nene paired with Aitken was far worse than this year.

    His move to the right has contributed to the improvement this season...
     
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    Wait a minute, our right edge is still very poor and we upgraded McCrone with Hunt. Despite the move of Nightingale to the right wing and Hunt to 7, our right edge is still our weakest link.
     
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    Really interesting re-watching the highlights of that game ..

    Nighty scored 3 tries late - generally had to fall over

    In defence Vunivalo scored 2 between the sideline and nighty and a third to slater .. All of these Nighty too far in on the compress and not able to turn out and cover. Mind you two of these the distance vunivalo had to work in was about 2 metres between nighty and the edge which nighty couldn't cover.

    Nene conceded 2 on his edge, one a kick where he was out of position badly and the other from an offload infield drawing everyone in one player.

    The really interesting thing in those highlights is what I have been banging on about with the compressed line - Nene put Addo Carr into touch on a good tackle because he is fast enough to both work in the compressed line AND ensure he can keep in touch with the winger on his outside. it is the exact reason the combination of Nighty and compress line fails.
     
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    No .. not at all ...

    6 tries conceded ... 4 on our left side and 2 on our right .. One from a kick where nene was horribly out of position and the other from an offload drawing everyone in one ... The biggest problem in that game was the same as the last game but on the other side .. Nightingale compressing too far and not able to turn out and chase ...
     
  10. Dragsters

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    Agreed, but it has been much better than last season.

    As for hunt vs McCrone defensively, I can remember plenty of posters saying McCrones defence was solid and you don't have to go back many pages on this thread to find hunts defense coming in to question.

    Personally I reckon our right edge is full of good front on defenders but sliding and laterally they are a work in progress and I'm not sure replacing experience with a young rookie will help this right now.

    That said, let's see how Lomax goes when he gets a crack...
     
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    So basically, Mary should give Lomax a go on that right wing in place of Flo.
    To see how he goes with that compressed defensive line and using his speed to cover the edge. Would be interesting to compare, if only he would be given a go. I've been as big a fan of flo over the years as anyone but its not as if he's scoring heaps of tries or anything. Mary needs to just try it out.
     
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    I'm sure Lomax will get a run today but how many minutes is hard to say. I hope that if we have a big lead or if we are leaking points down the right edge, Lomax will get a good run - 10min is very hard to judge the form of a player.
     
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    Needs to start with another forward on the bench
     
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    Nightingale has scored only one try in 9 rounds of football this year. It would be a funny joke, if I wasn't a Saints fan. lol How many other wingers would have job security if they had only scored one try this year. But then one has to consider that (to my knowledge) his centre has only passed the ball to him 3 times this year, including trials. That would also be a funny joke, if I wasn't a Saints fan. lol

    But because we are winning, many people don't think we have a problem. I do. I see an elephant in the room, but others look to be ignoring this.

    1 try this year. lol At that rate he will be lucky to score 3 tries in the whole season. lol I am pretty sure that try Nightingale scored this year, was from a kick.
     
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    He has had good opportunities too which decent finishers would have scored
     
  16. Objective View

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    Dead set, get him off now.

    Straight Shooter
     
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    A defensive brace of Hunt and Nightingale is doomed to fail.
     
  18. Objective View

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    Mary is a mastermind.

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    Don't get me started.
     
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    Get a room boys
     

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