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Nintendo NX - Next Gen Harware Concept

perverse

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So some developers have got new Switch devkits and are the rumours circulating now are that the new devkits battery life is on the order of 5 -> 8 hours. If that's truly the case, then I'm predicting a total slam dunk on this console. Anything over 5 hours would be great. 8 is ridiculous.

Good to see Breath of the Wild running nice and smoothly on the Switch, too... even if it is only 30fps. Impressive piece of hardware, this custom Tegra chip must be the goods.
 

DiegoNT

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I know people are complaining about battery life but even 3 hours is great. I imagine it would come in handy for a wide range of situations. I think the biggest spot the handheld is going to be used is actually on the couch. Most people have their consoles hooked up into their biggest tv, almost always in the loungeroom. Now imagine those annoying situations where the missus or the kids want to take over and watch their show, without pausing you walk over, take the game onto the handheld, play on it for a bit, then whenever keeping up with the Kardashians or adventure time finishes you put it back in and Continue on. No more dragging consoles and cords to other rooms to smaller tvs only to drag them all back in when the big tv becomes available again.
 

Storm13

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I know people are complaining about battery life but even 3 hours is great. I imagine it would come in handy for a wide range of situations. I think the biggest spot the handheld is going to be used is actually on the couch. Most people have their consoles hooked up into their biggest tv, almost always in the loungeroom. Now imagine those annoying situations where the missus or the kids want to take over and watch their show, without pausing you walk over, take the game onto the handheld, play on it for a bit, then whenever keeping up with the Kardashians or adventure time finishes you put it back in and Continue on. No more dragging consoles and cords to other rooms to smaller tvs only to drag them all back in when the big tv becomes available again.
You just described the WiiU.

Day one buy for me and even got the missus to agree after watch the Jimmy Fallon bit :)
 

Storm13

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Kind of, but the range on the WiiU is pretty average. I couldn't take it to my room to play with.

I've never pre-ordered anything in my life but I think I'll put some money down for this.
Was just pointing out how that feature got lost on the WIIU. Never really heard anyone talk about.
 

Parra Pride

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Big reason I never used that feature on the Wii U was the functionality the game pad provided on most of the games I played on it. Was nice to have map and inventory on that screen while playing things like Zelda and Xenoblade.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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I didn't get much of a chance to use a Wii u, but if games had their functionality designed around the touchpad being integral to the big screen game, no wonder you only used it that way. It looks like they've fixed that shortfall with the switch.
 

Storm13

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Only some games at the start of the life cycle of the WiiU took advantage of the second screen. ZombiU used the second screen to good effect and also one of those Batman Arkham games.
 

Firey_Dragon

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Clock-speeds are a crucial piece of information required to get some idea of Switch's capabilities beyond the physical make-up of the Tegra processor. As many have speculated, the new Nintendo hardware does indeed feature two performance configurations - and the console is categorically not as capable in mobile form, compared to its prowess when docked and attached to an HDTV. And we can confirm that there is no second GPU or additional hardware in the dock itself regardless of the intriguing patents that Nintendo has filed suggesting that there might be. With battery life and power throughput no longer an issue, the docked Switch simply allows the GPU to run much faster. And to put it simply, there is a night and day difference here.

Where Switch remains consistent is in CPU power - the cores run at 1020MHz regardless of whether the machine is docked or undocked. This ensures that running game logic won't be compromised while gaming on the go: the game simulation itself will remain entirely consistent. The machine's embedded memory controller runs at 1600MHz while docked (on par with a standard Tegra X1), but the default power mode undocked sees this drop to 1331MHz. However, developers can opt to retain full memory bandwidth in their titles should they choose to do so.

As things stand, CPU clocks are halved compared to the standard Tegra X1, but it's the GPU aspect of the equation that will prove more controversial. Even while docked, Switch doesn't run at Tegra X1's full potential. Clock-speeds are locked here at 768MHz, considerably lower than the 1GHz found in Shield Android TV, but the big surprise from our perspective was the extent to which Nintendo has down-clocked the GPU to hit its thermal and battery life targets. That's not a typo: it really is 307.2MHz - meaning that in portable mode, Switch runs at exactly 40 per cent of the clock-speed of the fully docked device. And yes, the table below does indeed confirm that developers can choose to hobble Switch performance when plugged in to match the handheld profile should they so choose.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis

Garbage specs, as expected. Runs worse than an Nvidia Shield even when docked. Third party support is already DOA. Well below PS4 and Xbox One performance and only marginally better than the Wii U.

 

Pommy

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I know people are complaining about battery life but even 3 hours is great. I imagine it would come in handy for a wide range of situations. I think the biggest spot the handheld is going to be used is actually on the couch. Most people have their consoles hooked up into their biggest tv, almost always in the loungeroom. Now imagine those annoying situations where the missus or the kids want to take over and watch their show, without pausing you walk over, take the game onto the handheld, play on it for a bit, then whenever keeping up with the Kardashians or adventure time finishes you put it back in and Continue on. No more dragging consoles and cords to other rooms to smaller tvs only to drag them all back in when the big tv becomes available again.

If you've got family members watching the Kardashians you need to seriously question your life choices.
 

Parra Pride

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Nintendo screwed up with the Wii U as far as advertising goes, a lot of people not even realising it was a new console and not just an upgraded Wii (probably should have come up with a different name there), the Switch won't have that issue. Seen rumours that Breath of the Wild is being cancelled on the Wii U, if that does happen that will possible help sales a fair bit there too.
 

Storm13

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Switch has so much more going for it than the WiiU ever had, I couldn't see Nintendo fail again.
 

Wato

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Anyone watch the conference? Wow wtf was that, their launching with 1-2 switch and Zelda that is a terrible launch line up as Zelda won't save a console. As far as console reveals go that was worst than the PS3 and XB1 reveals and as someone who was interested in the switch as a console that could play Zelda,mario and Pokemon they completly unsold me on it and convinced me to just stick with the Wii u for Zelda.
 

DiegoNT

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May have just jizzed a bit.
Deku Tree? Navi?

Has absolutely no chance off living upto expectations
 

Parra Pride

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Anyone watch the conference? Wow wtf was that, their launching with 1-2 switch and Zelda that is a terrible launch line up as Zelda won't save a console. As far as console reveals go that was worst than the PS3 and XB1 reveals and as someone who was interested in the switch as a console that could play Zelda,mario and Pokemon they completly unsold me on it and convinced me to just stick with the Wii u for Zelda.

I'd be surprised if nothing else of note is announced as coming on launch. I'll happily grab it because Zelda looks so f**king good, and further down the line Mario, Xenoblade 2 and Splatoon 2 will all be worth a buy at the very least.

Then there's also the rumours going around that they can't get Breath of the Wild to run the way they want it on the Wii U which is a little off putting. Then again rumours also said Zelda wasn't launch, the Switch was launching in the 17th and was $250 USD.
 
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