Not as stupid as the dicks who vote for him

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  1. t-ba

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    Isn't America riding a populist wave of a dude promising magical jobs from the 1950s to return?

    If I am reading into the narrative correctly didn't Trump win a lot of support for making promises that essentially amount to entitlement for people in the rust belt?

    This 'sense of entitlement' isn't something confined to 'millenials'

    In this rather volatile electoral environment I also don't think it's great policy to mock them either...
     
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  2. Pete Cash

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    correct and i feel like when i write my defense of poor midwesterners its a lot better received than poor young people here.

    in Britain the last yougov poll has labour leading. Even if they are just behind Corbyn is a not especially charismatic lefty with tons of skeletons in his closest. if the status quo crumbling is nonsense then how does one explain Corbyn getting any success at all

    replace corbyn with a younger more charismatic firebrand without corbyn's skeletons labour would even improve their position imo
     
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  3. t-ba

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    Didn't a populist in the USA swing a few key swing states with promises of government intervention to remagic jobs from the 1950s that people out there felt entitled to?
     
  4. sensesmaybenumbed

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    Well, yeah, but that's OK because it's the right wing.
     
  5. Jimbo

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    I have no idea

    I assume somebody paid for it though

    Probably not

    Does that mean tertiary education is not available?

    Well, no

    I've explained why I don't agree with you. All you've done is complain because I don't think I should have to pay for your PhD in art history
     
  6. Jimbo

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    I think you'll find that quite a few residents of those states didn't take too kindly to being called 'deplorable' by the worst presidential candidate in US history
     
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    Just like 'millenials' probably don't like being called entitled, lazy, 'leaners' etc...;)
     
  8. sensesmaybenumbed

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    I said it was less accessible. Thanks for agreeing with me on that one while trying not to by mis quoting me and resorting to weak ad hominem insults. And for the record, I'm not complaining. It's ridicule. Extremists from both sides deserve nothing else.
     
  9. Jimbo

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    Regardless of how Joe Hockey's degree was paid for, I don't believe it shows that tertiary education is less accessible
     
  10. sensesmaybenumbed

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    If something costs $10, it is accessible.

    If it costs $1000, it is less accessible.

    If it costs $1,000,000 it is inaccessible for almost everyone.

    There's this thing called money, see? If something costs alot of money, it becomes less accessible, see? You agreed that university is more expensive now, so it follows that it becomes less accessible, see?
     
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  11. Jimbo

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    Your example assumes that prices rise, whilst incomes do not
     
  12. Pete Cash

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    there has been stagnation in wages
     
  13. Jimbo

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    To the extent that something which used to cost $10 now costs $1,000,000?
     
  14. sensesmaybenumbed

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    Relative to the increase in cost of university education, wages have risen far more slowly, making education less accessible.

    But again, that's something that you don't want to admit because it goes against your narrative.

    So I use hyperbole to ridicule your deliberately disingenuous position.
     
  15. Jimbo

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    Your attempt at ridicule does not prove that creating a bunch of unemployed art historians will provide any societal benefit sensie
     
  16. sensesmaybenumbed

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    That was not my argument. It was yours.
     
  17. Jimbo

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    What is your argument then?

    Free uni for everyone regardless of whether the qualification is in demand or even of the student wants to bother finishing?
     
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    Jobs from the 50's are you talking about making stuff, productive stuff,as opposed to the financial services sector ?
     
  19. sensesmaybenumbed

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    No. More affordable access for people who've earned a spot instead of buying in. Keep peddling that communist fear line though.
     
  20. Jimbo

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    And how do you propose that this 'more affordable access' is provided?
     

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