NRL CLUBS V RLIF

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  1. Foreign Legion

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    Christopher Pearce
    South Sydney chief executive Shane Richardson has called on Rugby League International Federation bosses Nigel Wood and David Collier to address a meeting of NRL clubs before the end of the World Cup and explain their plans for the sport.

    Richardson was responding to reports in Monday's Herald about the emergence of a FIFA-style window on the third weekend of June next year, when NRL and Super League players could theoretically disperse and represent their countries as soccer stars have for many years.

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    He said to his knowledge clubs and the Rugby League Players Association were not opposed to such a situation – but they expected to be consulted.

    "The RLIF has never addressed the clubs on anything, they just make these arbitrary announcements in the paper," said Richardson, also team manager of the Kiwis.

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    "Despite how this is being portrayed, my own experience is that clubs do support representative football, they do support the expansion of the sport. Just look at the number of NRL players in this tournament.

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    "Just look at State of Origin. Just look at the stand-alone Origin and rep weekend next year.

    "I'm convinced that if they went through the matches they want to play, when, where, how and why with us, they would get a sympathetic hearing and we'd get a good outcome for the game.


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    "But if you're not going to pay us the common courtesy of telling us what's going on, you are going to run into a little bit of trouble because, yes, we do pay the players."

    While it could be argued the RLIF's responsibility is to countries, not clubs and players' unions, the situation is unique in rugby league as two competitions and one players union provide all the high-profile stars to international matches.

    The RLPA was unsuccessful in being granted an audience with the international body when it met in Sydney this month.

    "I'd like David and Nigel to come and see us before they return to the UK," Richardson said. "Tell us what's planned and why. We never hear from them. The clubs are not the bad guys here."

    The sport is still grappling with its international calendar over the coming years. In theory, New Zealand are going to Europe next spring, Great Britain are reforming to tour Australia in 2019 and there is also a Nines World Cup at that time.

    But while you can already buy tickets to matches in the rugby union World Cup in Japan in 2019, most rugby league-playing countries don't know where and when their next match is after the current tournament.

    In other news, the Australian side arrived in Darwin for their quarter-final against Samoa at TIO Stadium on Friday night.

    Back-rower Matt Gillett said he supported calls for a parity of payments across the international game, although there is nothing new regarding how this might be achieved.

    "We're all out there doing the same thing, there's no reason for that not to happen," he said. "Everyone deserves the same. We're all out there putting our bodies on the line for our country."

    Earlier in the day, David Klemmer and Aaron Woods were cleared over a spear tackle.

    "I think they were a bit nervous," Gillett said. "It's only a short tournament and any suspension would have put doubt in their minds."

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  2. Diesel

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    Sounds like RL, ideas floating about but no communication.

    The article hits the nail on the head but if we can get a June window for international RL, starting with one week, expanding over time then it’s a good thing.
     
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  3. Perth Red

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    I doubt they know what is going to happen and unless the nrl sanction it will not happen anyway. Probably an idea leaked over a beer that someone in media has jumped on.

    I'm sure the clubs will do all they can to sabotage it anyway as it's not in their interests.
     
  4. Pedge1971

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    Really? Both Grant and Greenberg sit on the board and are responsible for NRL scheduling. The NRL grant funded by tv rights revenue is the majority of most clubs revenue stream.

    If they get the RLPA the tv rights owners on board (i.e. the players who judging by this WC seem very on board with moreof this and tv that is rating off its head) why could this not happen?

    Clubs can only sabotage if the RLIF and the NRL are not synched up, or there is no real tv revenue stream..

    The NRL are that thick. The tv guys arent.....
     
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  5. Danish

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    Whenever I hear NRL clubs going on about how "they" pay the players, they just sound like some naive little kid talking about how they bought a toy with their "own" money, after saving up the allowance that their parents give them each week.

    We indulge kids when they say such nonsense because it is showing a bit of initiative to save and an understanding of delayed gratification, but when a bunch of adults do it they just sound stupid.
     
  6. POPEYE

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    While ever we have the Golden Boot vs Reality nothing rational is going to happen in the world of RL
     
  7. East Coast Tiger

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    Richardson wanted the RLIF job and didn't get it.

    So factor that in.

    The clubs pay the players with money they are given for filling tv slots. Given the WC has been getting ratings equivalent to the NRL or better I'd say we can slot international teams in and NRL clubs out and the game will get the same money and then it won't be the clubs paying the players.
     
  8. siv

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    Ha ha

    RLIF only needs to deal with the chairman of the ARLC

    Clubs have no say
     
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  9. siv

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    Anyway we are back to clubs v country debate

    This is what killed off International RL in the 1980s/1990s
     
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  10. T-Boon

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    The best thing for RL would be an 8 team NZ competition including a Sydney team (Sydney Bears) and a Melbourne team (Melbourne Jets?). Sell it to Fox and seven or ten.

    Strip the NRL of some of its power.
     
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  11. Pedge1971

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    I know. Lets start a breakaway league. We'll call it Super League, it will have all the best players, it will become the game they play and watch in China. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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  12. Perth Red

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    After their whinging to the ARLC which won them seats and yet more opportunity to influence for their own benefits, they clearly now feel they should be running the RLIF as well!
     
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    What - every attempt to start a new RL competition in the world gets called super league now does it?
     
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  14. Hello, I'm The Doctor

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    Rep footy is where the ARLC should be pushing...

    They strip clubs of huge power and cause some problems for the players in salary negotiations. And, if a rep team throws a tantrum, they can be replaced without much issue.
     
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    The following was published by the Sydney Morning Herald -

     
  16. Foreign Legion

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    the only reason why NRL clubs
    want to get involved is so they can find ways to avoid releasing players.
     
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  17. siv

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    Or reducing the growth in IRL
     
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    A strong world RL would do NRL clubs no favours, the best players will still come from Australia in the foreseeable future. The last thing NRL clubs with management surviving on short term performance will want is their top players being poached more than they are now

    It would be nice if IRL was the 'pinnacle' over Origin/NRL, if more youngsters all over the world desired League over other codes . . . it's a shame RL is such a hard game to play when apps are much easier
     
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  19. titoelcolombiano

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    So, the RLPA is a domestic body that falls under the juristiction of the ARLC....... but the NRL clubs are not domestic bodies that fall under the same juristiction....... confused.

    I am concerned that the clubs are looking at the growing pot of money being made as each world cup is played (should be $10m this time up from $5 - 7m last world cup) and looking at how they can be 'compensated' for the use of 'their' players.
     
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    They are trying to not allow it to grow

    As TV rights money would be diverted from the clubs to running internationals

    If you pay each player on par with SOO ie $30k

    It costs $1,020k to pay players

    So that means per game must generate $3.5 mil as per RLPA guidelines

    But if TV only pays $250k per game

    29% means players only get $2,100
     
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