NRL continues trialing Hawk-Eye technology to aid video referees

[El Diablo]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...d-video-referees/story-fndujljl-1226843006711

NRL continues trialing Hawk-Eye technology to aid video referees

Paul Malone
The Courier-Mail
March 03, 2014 12:00AM

THE NRL will press on with trials of other technology after testing Hawk-Eye as an aid to video referees.

The Hawk-Eye system, used most notably by tennis, was trialled under match conditions by the NRL on February 22, by video referees, including Henry Perenara.

The results from the real-time use of the technology were not used in the officiating the game, the World Club Challenge in which Sydney Roosters beat Wigan, but to check the system’s suitability in game circumstances.

Hawk-Eye would allow more rapid-fire decisions on try reviews than reviews possible television cameras and production staff.

But it would be a big additional expense for the NRL if used in entire premiership rounds.

In its main application to sport, Hawk-Eye has been used in capturing pictures from numerous cameras placed strategically around a sporting arena to produce an estimate of a ball’s proximity to a line on a field or court.

“We have been looking at some alternate technology for video refereeing,’’ NRL general manager of football operations Nathan McGuirk said.

“Hawkeye have a system where you can view multiple angles all at once.

“We did the trial in the World Club Challenge. It wasn’t used (to aid decisions made) in the game, but we were using it as if we were using it in the game.

“We are reviewing a couple of other systems that on the market as well. There are other providers.’’

The NRL has in the past trialled other technologies in efforts to get more calls right.

In 2011, GPS-tracking devices embedded in footballs, which were said by manufacturers to be accurate down to 1cm, were investigated in assisting in forward-pass decisions, but the NRL deciding against taking it up.

The Roosters-Rabbitohs game on Thursday night will be the first under the regime in which Tony Archer is NRL referees boss.

Archer, an experienced former first-grade coach, takes charge after Daniel Anderson’s resignation.

*Channel 9 says Darren Lockyer has agreed to terms for two more years commentating on their rugby league telecasts.

Nine head of sport Steve Crawley said Lockyer, who has appeared mainly in game-night panel discussions and sideline comments, would be used more in central match commentary in his third season with the network.

 

[El Diablo]

The results from the real-time use of the technology were not used in the officiating the game, the World Club Challenge in which Sydney Roosters beat Wigan, but to check the system’s suitability in game circumstances.

be interesting to know if it worked

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

F*ck all of this innovative crap. I want to go back to the days when refs made call on gut instinct and when a game was decided by the sweat on a mans brow, not an algorithm on some smartypants computer...

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[TheDalek079]

What use is hawkeye? seeing whether the ball bounced in the field of play or in touch? forward passes?

The only one that I want to see is them detecting whether or not the ball is grounded. Not sure what the tech for that would be? lots of mini detectors in the ball?

 

[The Elephant In The room]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...d-video-referees/story-fndujljl-1226843006711

More rapid fire decisions?? Have these guys seen how long it can take for a Hawkeye decision to be made at the cricket?

 

[Card Shark]

What use is hawkeye? seeing whether the ball bounced in the field of play or in touch? forward passes?

If technology was able to detect a forward pass, that would be awesome I reckon.

So many short passes from dummy half are thrown forward & missed whist long balls to wingers that are thrown back, yet float forward, are pulled up by dumb officials.

If the trajectory of a ball relative to the field was able to be determined the moment it left the hands, that would be a great help in officiating the game.

 

[Springs]

I'm guessing this would be used in put-downs. Whether the balls was grounded or if the ball was on the line or not in case of being short/near the dead-ball line, or if the ball had come away from the player's fingers before being grounded.

So many short passes from dummy half are thrown forward & missed whist long balls to wingers that are thrown back, yet float forward, are pulled up by dumb officials.

If the trajectory of a ball relative to the field was able to be determined the moment it left the hands, that would be a great help in officiating the game.

I think all that will do is slow the game down, as every other forward pass decision is reversed by the video ref.

We need less video ref, not more.

 

[davi]

Looks like it's past the trial stage now, NRL is tipped to bring the technology into the game in Round 13.

"The NRL is set to usher in revolutionary Hawk-Eye technology that will allow the Bunker to determine if players are offside from kicks - and possibly as soon as this season.

In the game's most significant technological advancement since the introduction of the video referee two decades ago, it can be revealed that officials have been secretly trialling the system in the early parts of the season, including at the Auckland Nines.


If it is convinced the system is 100 per cent accurate, it is likely to be in place by round 13.

The innovation is different to the much-hyped 10-metre offside line proposed by Fox Sports, which has now abandoned the idea.


Fox Sport's virtual line would have shown if players were offside in general play and in try scoring situations.

In essence, it was for entertainment purposes only as part of the network's new dedicated rugby league channel launched earlier this year.

But the NRL wants its system to become a cornerstone of its decision-making process.

As it stands, the Bunker cannot rule on players standing offside but can rule them offside from kicks when tries are scored, however, standard camera angles are often misleading and unreliable. Given how prominent the cross-field kick has become as an attacking weapon, this is a significant development."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...or-second-half-of-season-20170330-gv9n9x.html

 

[Hawkins]

Hotspot.

There is a warm patch on Widdop's bum there. He appears to have been fondled in that last play.

 

[Life's Good]

Is c*ck eye the technology used when Luke Patten is in the bunker??

 

[siv]

So how can they tell where players are when off camera ? Do we track players hands and feet as well ??

Passing will be very confusing to anyone trying track the ball in relation to the players movement

Balls are being juggled dummied passed stripped droped or kicked

And players are running stepping etc

How accurate will Hawke be for short 1 to 2m passes

What happens when it buckets down and the ball gets covered in mud ?

 

[Captain Apollo]

Passing will be very confusing to anyone trying track the ball in relation to the players movement......

How accurate will Hawke be for short 1 to 2m passes.....

Read the article David posted. They aren't proposing to use it for passes, merely to judge whether players are off side at kicks when a try is scored.

I don't know if it will be successful or not, just pointing out there is no point talking about "passes" when it is not going to be used in relation to them is all.

 

[davi]

Read the article David posted. They aren't proposing to use it for passes, merely to judge whether players are off side at kicks when a try is scored.

I don't know if it will be successful or not, just pointing out there is no point talking about "passes" when it is not going to be used in relation to them is all.

Yeah I didn't post the whole article, there's more in it on the link.

 

[El Diablo]

we need snicko and hot spot too so they know whether a player has touched it with his fingers when a bomb goes up and there's hand everywhere

 

[Hawkins]

we need snicko and hot spot too so they know whether a player has touched it with his fingers when a bomb goes up and there's hand everywhere

The fire cannons, they could sync the fire cannons to go off when ever a player catches the ball

 

[adamkungl]

Not a fan. Completely unnecessary. Will only make the errors more glaring when they happen.

 

[simmo05]

We should be able to get rid of touchies then. Merkins can not even make offside calls or forward pass from in line these days they are that gutless. Waste of money

 

[some11]

@siv
Read the article before ranting.

 

[Perth Red]

Does anyone think the bunker has been a positive addition to the game?

 

[El Diablo]

Does anyone think the bunker has been a positive addition to the game?

i don't think you've ever had a positive thought about anything in your life