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NRL pay dispute with players offered huge pay rise of 48 per cent

OldPanther

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/d3a2a1ddd3d33903ab4c14710f1aa8d9

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THE NRL will become a millionaires factory after offering staggering 48 per cent pay increase to its players but has warned — want any more and you will send the game broke.

The NRL has been locked in ongoing negotiations with the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) regarding next year’s salary cap with talks as recent as last week. Discussions are said to have been positive as the groups work towards finally landing a resolution, with the RLPA presenting its most formidable and united front in the organisation’s history under the leadership of former AFL player Ian Prendergast.

Should the RLPA accept the NRL’s latest offer players’ salaries will jump a phenomenal 48 per cent over the period of the next collective bargaining agreement from 2018-2022 compared to what they earnt between 2006-12.

In the first year of the new deal the salary will increase by 32 per cent. The AFL trumpeted their most recent collective bargaining deal where players were given a 20 per cent salary increase, while cricket is in a state of turmoil as the players and the governing body fight over their payments.

The NRL’s offer will also take average salaries beyond $300,000 while the minimum wage will be $100,000, well above the $80,000 a year the average Australian earns.

The RLPA and the NRL seemed headed for a dramatic collision after clubs and the RLPA were left dumbfounded by the NRL’s original base salary cap offer of just $8.3 million in March. But a club source has told the Sunday Telegraph that figure has now jumped to $8.8 million in a proposal put to the RLPA and clubs last month.

An NRL spokesman refused to confirm the figures.

“We cannot comment further while the negotiations are under way but we are determined to give players a fair share of the funding while continuing to put money into grassroots Rugby League,” the spokesman said.

The NRL has proposed a salary cap of about $10 million in 2022 which would open the way for clubs to have two to three million dollar players per side. Sydney6–17°C

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Sharks destroy the Roosters NRL The NRL will become a millionaires factory after offering huge pay increase Michael Carayannis, The Sunday Telegraph July 2, 2017 8:00am Subscriber only THE NRL will become a millionaires factory after offering staggering 48 per cent pay increase to its players but has warned — want any more and you will send the game broke.

The NRL has been locked in ongoing negotiations with the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) regarding next year’s salary cap with talks as recent as last week. Discussions are said to have been positive as the groups work towards finally landing a resolution, with the RLPA presenting its most formidable and united front in the organisation’s history under the leadership of former AFL player Ian Prendergast.

Should the RLPA accept the NRL’s latest offer players’ salaries will jump a phenomenal 48 per cent over the period of the next collective bargaining agreement from 2018-2022 compared to what they earnt between 2006-12.

In the first year of the new deal the salary will increase by 32 per cent.

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The AFL trumpeted their most recent collective bargaining deal where players were given a 20 per cent salary increase, while cricket is in a state of turmoil as the players and the governing body fight over their payments.

The NRL’s offer will also take average salaries beyond $300,000 while the minimum wage will be $100,000, well above the $80,000 a year the average Australian earns.

The RLPA and the NRL seemed headed for a dramatic collision after clubs and the RLPA were left dumbfounded by the NRL’s original base salary cap offer of just $8.3 million in March. But a club source has told the Sunday Telegraph that figure has now jumped to $8.8 million in a proposal put to the RLPA and clubs last month.

An NRL spokesman refused to confirm the figures.

“We cannot comment further while the negotiations are under way but we are determined to give players a fair share of the funding while continuing to put money into grassroots Rugby League,” the spokesman said.

The NRL has proposed a salary cap of about $10 million in 2022 which would open the way for clubs to have two to three million dollar players per side.

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg earns about one million dollars a year. Picture: Brett Costello This will mean the game will have more million dollar players than ever before with only a handful of stars — including Cameron Smith, Johnathan Thurston and Daly Cherry-Evans breaking that mark now. NRL boss Todd Greenberg earns about one million dollars a year.

Clubs are also on the brink of a massive financial payday with the NRL offering an average of $13 million a year for the next five years. But it comes with a heavy threat that the NRL will no longer bail out financially weak clubs. Financial strife could see clubs relocated or booted from the competition. Only two clubs made profits last year with the rest leaking a combined $53.4 million.

The NRL owns Newcastle and the Gold Coast Titans while they have significantly propped up St George Illawarra in recent times.

In a bid to stop the ‘arm’s race’ between clubs who spend millions of dollars trying to gain an edge off the field, the NRL will introduce a cap on football club spending next year.

Of the $8.8 million player payments — $400,000 is dependent on players maintaining good behaviour otherwise that money could be slashed. The NRL’s revamped proposal has the salary cap now landing at $9.5 million for a 30-man squad which includes a $100,000 motor vehicle payment, a $300,000 veteran player allowance and $300,000 to spend on a development list of six players. The RLPA wanted a $10 million salary cap from next year and a fixed revenue share of 29 per cent and have the backing of some of the game’s biggest names including Smith and James Maloney.

The NRL will have a zero tolerance for those clubs who have overspent on next year’s salary cap, warning teams they need to shed players before round one. It is understood at least two clubs will need to cull in order to be salary cap compliant."
 

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Good luck to the players in getting as much as they can. Not sure how sustainable it is given the shifting sands of TV money where all the funding comes from. There are no guarantees that the next TV rights will generate the same dollars as this current deal.
Let's face it, most of the clubs are great at spending but poor to down right sh*t at generating revenue. I don't see this ending well.
 

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Good luck to the players in getting as much as they can. Not sure how sustainable it is given the shifting sands of TV money where all the funding comes from. There are no guarantees that the next TV rights will generate the same dollars as this current deal.
Let's face it, most of the clubs are great at spending but poor to down right sh*t at generating revenue. I don't see this ending well.

Yep. There might be a salary cap but this kind of money would make it irrelevant. Some clubs couldn't keep up surely.
 

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The NRL doesn't like to spend much on the Knights and GC, so they won't be over while the cap has never applied for the Dogs, Broncos and Roosters so which one of the 11 remaining teams are over the $9.5m cap
 

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According to Brown clubs were given a number to work on, $9.1million, but some clubs have chosen to ignore this. Seems they can have little room for complaint if they are in strife with salary cap if they decided to ignore the NRL's advice and spend more.


Outspoken Newcastle coach Nathan Brown has dared the NRL to "do the right thing" and force clubs who have overspent the yet-to-be-confirmed salary cap to shed players. Brown suggests teams who have overspent as a result of uncertainty over the exact cap for next year are just using it as an excuse for their recklessness.

"Everyone got the email saying you have to work off 9.1 million and if you don't it's your responsibility," Brown told Triple M on Sunday. "Some went over it and took a chance … some like us stayed under it in the hope that players would come along. Let's hope our friends at the NRL hold their nerve and make them go under it and don't allow something like a grandfather rule. Those that put the market into a spin have to pay the price."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...th-clubs-over-salary-cap-20170806-gxqa9c.html
 

adamkungl

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Should the RLPA accept the NRL’s latest offer players’ salaries will jump a phenomenal 48 per cent over the period of the next collective bargaining agreement from 2018-2022 compared to what they earnt between 2006-12.

lol, missing a few years there aren't we? Why would you compare to what they earned 6 years ago? Shameless exaggeration.
 

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...
 

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...

How could that possibly work?

How do you predict crowd figures to set the salaries?

What methodology do you propose they use to base a salary 100% on gate takings, when offering a 5 year contract?
 

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...
I am all for doing what is possible to increase crowds but linking players pay to it?? I just don't see it happening when, off the top of my head, Origin screws the middle of the season where the best players aren't on show impacting crowds, games slated to go to the bush meaning ground capacity is reduced, Friday 6pm game(Dragons vs. Souths SCG is s classic example).

The players do their bit hence the TV $$ so good luck to them earning what they can(provided it's sustainable as per my earlier post).

A club funding KPI based on crowds, absolutely. Make those gravy train riders at club HQ's put their thinking caps on to market the games. It's not that hard. (Suprised it isn't part of the TV contract stipulating game promotion other than SOO & ANZAC test).

There also needs to be greater transparency from the NRL on their budgeting. By all means spend it, but it must return something meaningful eg. junior numbers growth, supporting regional clubs etc.

Money is there. Just needs better management.
 

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lol, missing a few years there aren't we? Why would you compare to what they earned 6 years ago? Shameless exaggeration.
Same shitty comparison they drew regarding crowds this morning, juxtaposing 1968 vs 2017 in pictures when the crowd average is 3k higher this season than it was back then.
 

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...

If I didn't know any better I would have picked this to be T-boon post
 

AlwaysGreen

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I'd go one step further. Have the likes Cameron Smith and Jonathan Thurston manning the ticket booths before the game, directing the parking, selling the dagwood dogs at the concession stand and organising the half time entertainment.
 

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...
That would not work, the rooters players would only be taking home 200 a week
 

TheVelourFog

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I still think the long term plan should be to pay players 100% of ticket sale (phased in over a decade or so). Nothing more or less...

It avoids this shit fight that inevitably hits every 5 years and it forces player (the present faces of the game) to actively sell games and bring people in.

No one cares about crowds ATM because no one is directly effected. Players should reap what they themselves sow, the longer term payoffs (TV money) should be directed to clubs and juniors instead...

Their job is to play

Marketing is for marketers
 

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I'd go one step further. Have the likes Cameron Smith and Jonathan Thurston manning the ticket booths before the game, directing the parking, selling the dagwood dogs at the concession stand and organising the half time entertainment.

So have the star players handle all the cash?






But in seriousnes clubs could look at giving business opportunitied to players to own associated businesses like merchandise selling. I imagine the landlord of football grounds has tied up the refreshment contracts directly. But the odd game at Belmore say may be up for grabs.
 
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Wise words from Sam Thaiday. Nice to see the big man hasn't lost the common touch in an age where pampered athletes seem to becoming more frequent (Woods, Moses, Hayne etc)

"SAM Thaiday says he hopes working-class supporters do not feel disconnected from players on an average wage of $330,000 under the NRL’s new pay proposal.

That amount is more than double what Wally Lewis was paid when he signed with the Broncos in 1988.

Thaiday asked the game’s working-class fans to remember that a league career is only short.

As expected, the Rugby League Players Association membership elected not to adopt the proposal presented by the NRL last week to increase total financial commitment to the players by 52 per cent in a new collective bargaining agreement.

Fringe players would be paid a minimum wage of $120,000 a year for being in the top 25 players at a club under the NRL proposal.

“They are very lucky boys. I can remember my first contract at the Broncos had a lot less zeros than that,’’ said Thaiday, who attended a teleconference in Brisbane with the main meeting in Sydney.

“It is very hard (to explain the pay rises to the public). But we have to try to set ourselves up at a youngish age.

“What we do in the game can be very dangerous. One run, one tackle can change your life. Look at a bloke like Alex McKinnon.”

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...s/news-story/e382fb1cfdf54aad216b781912f2ff4c
 

Perth Red

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The next TV deal will not be as big as the last with all the shiftings in the industry. Time for the eejits to work on making attendance more affordable.

Maybe why the nrl should go to a fixed revenue deal? If it goes to sht in next few years then the players salaries will drop accordingly.
 

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