NRL will not force clubs to release players for Denver Test

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  1. Dakink

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    You have a link so I can have a look/listen?
     
  2. deluded pom?

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    I’ve put a link to the latest USARL podcast in the USARL Round 1 thread Dak.
     
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  3. Pommy

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  4. franklin2323

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    He is a lost cause. Clubs have every right to be concerned and not want it too happen. There is a reason the pacific tests are in Australia afterall.

    Burgii want in. Graham, Johnson and co want in... None of whom will get sacked if they play. Just an excuse for people to whinge really.

    NRL are only as powerful as the other countries let them be. If they all vote a certain way then ARL can't do shit
     
  5. typicalfan

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    The reason the Pacific tests are played here is because the interest is greater here and they have been successful not because of travel times or altitude.

    NRL are just showing the same level of small mindedness it always has.
     
  6. franklin2323

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    PNG would draw more then Campbelltown would. Fiji are aimed to get a NSW Cup team in this would be perfect to generate interest over there

    What interest does the BCCI show for other countries during the IPL or hell even the Day/Night test was gone. So every player in soccer is always released to play for their country?

    The issue is the weak International board not a countries governing body putting self interest over the game. A strong international board solves this
     
  7. LeagueXIII

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    It's because it's cheaper for Fox and the league makes more profit....all about cash that's it.
     
  8. adamkungl

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    Yep. And the NRL clubs don't have to give their players any time off.

    If they were serious even about maximising crowds for this, Samoa v Tonga would be played in Auckland
     
  9. franklin2323

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    That is where a good strong international board would be nice. Make this sort of stuff happen
     
  10. Springs09

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    Well no, it wouldn't. PNG's stadium only fits 15,000 and Campbelltown was packed last year. If PNG v Fiji was in PNG and Samoa v Tonga was in Auckland then yes, then it would draw more than a Campbelltown DH.

    And the issue is both. A governing body putting self interest over the game is an issue anywhere.
     
  11. DlEHARD

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    Can we have a match thread on this or change the topic name?

    Im sick of reading about the NRL and clubs and want to focus on the positives of this game.
     
  12. franklin2323

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    Why does it have to be a DH? 15k in PNG or Fiji alternative years.

    Mt Smart would close to sell out for Samoa/Tonga.

    With the Eng/NZ game Sunday morning Aust time.

    Much better ways to do it that is better for the International game. Fine clubs that don't release players and worst case it fills the coffers. Best case it puts power where it should be in the game

    In cricket India didn't want a day night test this year so no day night test. No International games while the IPL is on. Any sport with an international presence has these same Issues
     
  13. Disinterested third party

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    Fair call.
     
  14. adamkungl

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    When are squads expected to be announced? Probably start a new one then
     
  15. Pommy

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    What issues are fifa having during the World Cup?
     
  16. franklin2323

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    What Issues did Rugby League have in the World Cup? FIFA have club v country issues all the time for friendly's. As does Rugby getting Northern Hemisphere players released.

    Those games go ahead. As will this game which will be a big up yours to the NRL clubs.
     
  17. Pommy

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    Do they? Funny I’m a football fan and I have missed anything on the scale of this farce in the last 15 years.
    Probably because FIFA runs the game not national governing bodies as is the case in rugby league. Trying to say this is what happens in any sport with an international presence is a joke.
     
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  18. The Great Dane

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    There's one enormous difference between FIFA and the RLIF- FIFA can afford to run soccer (or in other words it's more beneficial for the majority of the national federations to be aligned with them then with any individual federation for their survival) and cause of that have the power and leverage to overrule any individual groups in the sport trying to take control away from them, the RLIF on the other hand couldn't afford the running costs of nations like France, PNG, or NZ, let alone either the NRL or RFL, so realistically even if they do threaten to take the sort of action necessary to wrestle control away from the NRL (or RFL as the case may be) they don't have the power and/or resources to back it up.

    Until a point where RL as a sport becomes big enough worldwide so that the RLIF can muster enough power to pull the federations into line it will always effectively be dictated to by one of the federations acting as a hegemonic power, at the moment that hegemonic power happens to be the NRL and from that position as hedegmon they've basically pulled all of the pacific under their sphere of influence.

    Once you realise that and look at the problem that way it becomes much easier to solve, namely the only way that you are going to get more support for internationals would be to convince the global hegemon that it's A. in their interest and B. hopefully is financially beneficial for them as well.
    Unfortunately with the way that the Denver test has been handled from the start it's done the exact opposite necessary to get what it wants, it's displayed that it's not in the NRLs' interest and as the NRL clubs see it it's directly attacked their bottom line, and those two mistakes will make the NRL worry more about future endeavours similar to this which will mean that in the future they'll be even more likely to meddle in the organisation of such events, which is a very, very bad thing if you want more focus on international RL.

    Frankly as I've been saying for quite a while now the whole way that the Denver test has been handled from the start has been a farce and has done more to harm international growth then to support it, and it was all completely avoidable with a couple of minor changes, but I can't be bothered going into that.
     
  19. Pommy

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    Not sure how any of this relates to a claim that every sport has these issues which is what I was talking about.
     
  20. The Great Dane

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    It relates cause as you say FIFA doesn't have these issues to anywhere near the same extent as the RLIF, and my above post pretty much explains exactly why that is.

    Had our friend used the IIHF, FIBA (though to a much lesser extent than the IIHF), or I imagine any number of other international sports federations, then he would have had a much better argument, and both of the IIHF and FIBA have the issues that the RLIF has for basically the exact same reasons as well.
     

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