NSW Clubs forced out of QLD Cup

[Paullyboy]

NSWRL boss Geoff Carr says any Canberra Raiders player who appears in a Queensland Cup match next year will be barred from the NRL for the remainder of the season.
Carr has stepped up his bid to force the Raiders to compete in the NSW Cup next season, a move that will almost certainly cause Canberra's Queensland Cup feeder side Souths Logan to fold.

Speaking at yesterday's NSW Cup launch, the NSWRL and ARL chief executive said the Raiders would not be permitted to send excess players to Souths Logan once their current deal expires at season's end.

They must instead enter their own team in the NSW Cup, or form an alliance with an existing NSW-based club that would then enter the state's premier over-age competition.

''We've got a commitment to have NSW players play in NSW,'' Carr told The Canberra Times yesterday.

''The Australian Rugby League now has a rule in place that if you're a NSW-based player you're required to play in NSW.

''You can't go back and forth. We're not opposed to NRL clubs supporting Queensland Cup sides, but when the players go up there they can't come back.

''Once a player participates in a competition up there that's where he stays for the season.''

Raiders chief executive Don Furner was shocked when The Canberra Times informed him of Carr's threat.

Furner is adamant the Raiders are best served sending their excess players to Souths Logan, an arrangement they have had in place since the Premier League competition was axed at the end of the 2008 season.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...wrl-calls-on-raiders-to-quit-qld/1768196.aspx

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This is bad news for both the Raiders (with Souths Logan) and Manly (with Sunshine Coast). But more importantly shows how inept Carr and his ARL friends really are. They are essentially going to kill two previously-successful rugby league clubs (in areas of very high population growth) so that they can try and create a slightly more competitive 3rd tier competition in NSW.

Ridiculous.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

NSWRL boss Geoff Carr says any Canberra Raiders player who appears in a Queensland Cup match next year will be barred from the NRL for the remainder of the season.
Carr has stepped up his bid to force the Raiders to compete in the NSW Cup next season, a move that will almost certainly cause Canberra's Queensland Cup feeder side Souths Logan to fold.

Speaking at yesterday's NSW Cup launch, the NSWRL and ARL chief executive said the Raiders would not be permitted to send excess players to Souths Logan once their current deal expires at season's end.

They must instead enter their own team in the NSW Cup, or form an alliance with an existing NSW-based club that would then enter the state's premier over-age competition.

''We've got a commitment to have NSW players play in NSW,'' Carr told The Canberra Times yesterday.

''The Australian Rugby League now has a rule in place that if you're a NSW-based player you're required to play in NSW.

''You can't go back and forth. We're not opposed to NRL clubs supporting Queensland Cup sides, but when the players go up there they can't come back.

''Once a player participates in a competition up there that's where he stays for the season.''

Raiders chief executive Don Furner was shocked when The Canberra Times informed him of Carr's threat.

Furner is adamant the Raiders are best served sending their excess players to Souths Logan, an arrangement they have had in place since the Premier League competition was axed at the end of the 2008 season.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...wrl-calls-on-raiders-to-quit-qld/1768196.aspx

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This is bad news for both the Raiders (with Souths Logan) and Manly (with Sunshine Coast). But more importantly shows how inept Carr and his ARL friends really are. They are essentially going to kill two previously-successful rugby league clubs (in areas of very high population growth) so that they can try and create a slightly more competitive 3rd tier competition in NSW.

Ridiculous.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I hope both the Raiders and the QRL take this further.

 

[aussies1st]

WTF, we haven't even had time to arrange other options for our fringe players.

 

[Raidersrawesome]

NSWRL calls on Raiders to quit Qld


BY DAVID JEAN, RUGBY LEAGUE
05 Mar, 2010 08:16 AM
NSWRL boss Geoff Carr says any Canberra Raiders player who appears in a Queensland Cup match next year will be barred from the NRL for the remainder of the season.
Carr has stepped up his bid to force the Raiders to compete in the NSW Cup next season, a move that will almost certainly cause Canberra's Queensland Cup feeder side Souths Logan to fold.
Speaking at yesterday's NSW Cup launch, the NSWRL and ARL chief executive said the Raiders would not be permitted to send excess players to Souths Logan once their current deal expires at season's end.
They must instead enter their own team in the NSW Cup, or form an alliance with an existing NSW-based club that would then enter the state's premier over-age competition.
''We've got a commitment to have NSW players play in NSW,'' Carr told The Canberra Times yesterday.
''The Australian Rugby League now has a rule in place that if you're a NSW-based player you're required to play in NSW.
''You can't go back and forth. We're not opposed to NRL clubs supporting Queensland Cup sides, but when the players go up there they can't come back.
''Once a player participates in a competition up there that's where he stays for the season.''
Raiders chief executive Don Furner was shocked when The Canberra Times informed him of Carr's threat. Furner is adamant the Raiders are best served sending their excess players to Souths Logan, an arrangement they have had in place since the Premier League competition was axed at the end of the 2008 season.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...wrl-calls-on-raiders-to-quit-qld/1768196.aspx

Just interested on other peoples thoughts , this wont only affect The Raiders , Manly will be under the same threat.
I cant see how Carr can be so pig headed.

 

[Raidersrawesome]

merge the threads

 

[The Colonel]

WTF, we haven't even had time to arrange other options for our fringe players.

I would assume they are talking about 2011. I would hope so anyway.

Ridiculous decision. While the NSW Cup needs strengtehning there are better ways of going about it.

 

[skeepe]

This decision will kill Souths Logan Magpies.

I hope the ARL, apparent protectors of the grass roots of our game, are happy with the fact that they have made a decision that will lead directly to the death of a club.

 

[Paullyboy]

It does say 'next year', so you'd have to think it's 2011. But that aside, the bigger picture is that this is a horrible move for rugby league in general - so many clubs will be severely affected and the only possible positive is that a third tier competition becomes marginally stronger.

Let's get an independant commission and get rid of clowns like Carr forever.

 

[griff]

This move makes sense and is well overdue.

Open age RL in NSW is in major trouble because of NRL clubs moving their feeder operations to the Qld Cup.

The more NSW clubs have feeder relationships with Qld clubs instead of NSW clubs, the worse quality NSW comps get, the more NSW clubs will see the need to link with a Qld feeder club. This also impacts negatively on junior development in NSW.

It is in the interests of the game overall to have strong, credible state league competitions in both NSW and Qld rather than a de facto reserve grade in Qld and a park comp in NSW.

Shuttling fringe players back and forth between Canberra and Brisbane is very inefficient (travel costs, accommodation costs, etc), and is bad for player welfare (especially if they have a family). It's not surprising a lot of players give up playing completely if they can't break into the NRL, given the crap they have to put up with as a fringe player.

We need more money going to lower tier competitions so Souths Logan can stand on their own two feet, and so the Raiders can afford to run a local feeder club.

 

[GB!]

demote the U20's and bring back the premier league comp (with every NRL team fielding 1st grade, reserve grade & U20's)

 

[Stagger eel]

there's an NRL club called Manly in the same boat, although I'm hearing that they've already stitched a deal with Mounties to field a side in next years comp and i'm expecting Parra to knock that on the head as they should.

 

[danmiles73]

This move is potentially unconstitutional if Canberra wishes to fight it. Section 117 prohibits discrimination on the basis of residency in a particular State. If the Canberra players running out for Souths-Logan need to reside in Queensland to do so, then they would be prohibited from playing in a particular competition on the basis of that residency.

"A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to any disability or discrimination which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other State."

 

[PJ Marshal]

carrs a wanker

the qld cup will be always superior to nsw cup, despite his efforts to strengthen it

 

[Paullyboy]

This move is potentially unconstitutional if Canberra wishes to fight it. Section 117 prohibits discrimination on the basis of residency in a particular State. If the Canberra players running out for Souths-Logan need to reside in Queensland to do so, then they would be prohibited from playing in a particular competition on the basis of that residency.

"A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to any disability or discrimination which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other State."

It's about time the Queen got involved in Rugby League again. She hasn't cared as much ever since the Bears got the axe.

 

[danmiles73]

It's about time the Queen got involved in Rugby League again. She hasn't cared as much ever since the Bears got the axe.

FWIW, the patron of the ARL is no other than HRH Prince Phillip, KG, PC, KT, GME, FRS.

 

[Paullyboy]

FWIW, the patron of the ARL is no other than HRH Prince Phillip, KG, PC, KT, GME, FRS.

That post may as well have been in Japanese. Feel free to try and abbreviate a little less in future posts.

 

[danmiles73]

FWIW, the patron of the ARL is no other than HRH Prince Phillip, KG, PC, KT, GME, FRS.

That post may as well have been in Japanese. Feel free to try and abbreviate a little less in future posts.

Dear Paullyboy,

I was most amused by your reference to the Queen, and was amused by the, perhaps sarcastic, allusion to the fact that Her Britannic Majesty might not have an entirely active connection to the sport of rugby league. The irony of this proposition is that the patron of the Australian Rugby League is none other than His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, Baron Greenwich, Royal Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire, Member of the Order of Merit, Companion of the Order of Australia, Extra Companion of the Queen's Service Order, Royal Chief of the Order of Logohu, Canadian Forces Decoration, Lord of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, Privy Councilor of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty.

Yours etc.

 

[Paullyboy]

:lol::lol:

Thanks for clearing that up, I'm on the same page now.

 

[myanonymoususername]

Since when has Canberra been in NSW? (after 1913 anyway).

Raiders should just ignore the ARL and call their bluff, play reserves at Souths Logan and then play them in NRL. If the ARL tries to enforce it, threaten to forfeit games due to lack of reserves, and make a mockery of the ARL/NRL.

 

[El Diablo]

good decision

it's time NSW clubs stop strengthining the QLD comp and weaking the NSW comp