One Nation nuttiness: the return

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  1. Surely

    Surely Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know Mr wagon, maybe you could email a Japanese or korean school and find out
     
  2. DiegoNT

    DiegoNT First Grade

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    When something like this is discussed, which i literally have no idea about, i like to hear from people with experience in the field for how these things effect them. I'm friends with a few teachers, and not only are they all against Pauline's POV, they are strongly against it. From what i can gather, the whole 'kids who are disruptive' are holding back other kids is bollocks, as autistic kids who need more help and are struggling with it more are already in specialized classes/schools.
     
  3. Surely

    Surely Moderator Staff Member

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    Of course it wouldn't be every child with a disability would it, one would think a case by case basis.


    too."


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-06/regional-mothers-call-for-specialised-autism-school/8095714


    It would appear it's been suggested
     
  4. The Charlatan

    The Charlatan First Grade

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    I'm sure there's benefit having kids with severe mental disabilities in an environment with a focus on their needs.

    I'm not sure kids with high functioning autism should be in the same room as kids with mental retardation though. I don't think it's a blanket rule and every child should be assessed on their needs and abilities.

    Dyslexia is somewhat a learning disability. Do you chuck any kids with dyslexia in with the ones whom have low functioning autism?
     
  5. Surely

    Surely Moderator Staff Member

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    We all have ancedotal stories.
     
  6. DiegoNT

    DiegoNT First Grade

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    This is the problem with Pauline Hanson.

    All Asians are the same
    All Muslims are terrorist
    All aboriginals are lazy bludgers
    All Autistic kids are at the badder end of the scale.

    She can only see in broad stereotypes
     
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  7. The Charlatan

    The Charlatan First Grade

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    Only the Sith deal in absolutes ;)
     
  8. DiegoNT

    DiegoNT First Grade

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    Bit unfair comparing the sith to pauline. The sith aren't that bad
     
  9. The Charlatan

    The Charlatan First Grade

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    They're all out to f**k the galaxy though.
     
  10. 2_Smoking_Guns

    2_Smoking_Guns First Grade

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    I haven't listened to the comments made by Pauline as her voice has the same effect as fingernails on a chalkboard but I got the impression she wasn't offering much of a distinction.... and it would be out of character for her to do so....
     
  11. Danish

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    Having specific schools tailored for autistic kids is actually something many autistic parents fight for.

    My dad's cousin has 3 autistic kids, and she has them enrolled in a brilliant school for autistic children which means they get as good an education as their functionality allows, while being surrounded by teachers and staff who actually have proper training in dealing with autism and thus are much more adept at helping a kid gain back their composure if they have an episode or lash out (and stop parents from having to be called down to the school 2-3 times a week when some teacher just tosses their kid out of a class room or doesn't know how to deal with them).

    Plenty of kids get their HSC and go on to tertiary education.

    There is actually a charity night they put on every year that I attend with my family, it's humbling stufff talking to the parents of these kids and what they have to go trough. An interesting stat was that the principal of the school made mention that generally within 2 years of diagnosis, most fathers end up pissing off and leaving the mother to carry the can.

    Problem is, Hanson doesn't have the brains to discuss such an issue in any way that comes across even remotely tactful
     
  12. The Charlatan

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    Doesn't surprise me really.

    I think it's a given that kids need to be considered on a needs basis. Kids with Asperger's may not benefit from being segregated, or lumped in with the kids with more severe diagnoses of autism or other significant mental disabilities. Hanson, as Diego said, is very black and white with her limited analysis of situations. I wouldn't expect any less of her to be honest.
     
  13. sensesmaybenumbed

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    Typical fanta pants.
     
  14. sportive cupid

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    Its not really about autism specifically.Its about segregation on the basis of advantage..a class system of sorts.
    It plays on the desires of people to ensure that themselves and their children get a good deal in life...then manipulates that to the "competition is good and excellence is the aim " rather than egalitarianism.is the way to better quality of life for us all -even our kids.

    Its devisive politics for political purposes,and all.sides of politics are playing it here.
    Its ugly Australia.
     
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    The scary thing for mine is that this isnt likely to hurt Ms Hanson's political standing.In fact ,if the response (or lack of it)from the Liberals would seem to support that she may in fact strengrhen her political voice.

    Just last week the rankings of best place to live came out and Australai had moved down the chart on the basis of our tolerance . Not a surprise at all.
     
  16. Surely

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    Advantage ?

    Its called dumbing down Australia, govt policy in this country has seen our rankings slide not improve.
     
  17. sportive cupid

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    I meant the people who already have an advantage .THose without a disability in this case.
     
  18. Jimbo

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    They must have been measuring tolerance of alternative views among the left
     
  19. 2_Smoking_Guns

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    as opposed to your tolerance of leftist views....
     
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  20. Jimbo

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    There's a difference between disagreeing with certain views and not tolerating them boners

    As one of 4C's more committed leftists I'm not surprised that you would have trouble with this distinction
     

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